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Old 12-18-2011, 07:57 AM
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Default Is there an indestructible jet?

I've heard the bvm bobcat can take anything. Is this true? ie can you fly at top speed and give full throw inputs without the wings coming off? I know its possible with the materials we have, just wondering if its been done.

And yes, its a sunday morning and I'm bored waiting for baby to wake up so I can feed him...
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Carf Ultra Flash takes lots of abuse...its really strong.

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Opus V-jet and Funjet Ultra does handle alot of abuse :-)

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Old 12-18-2011, 08:40 AM
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Is there an indestructible jet? Yes ! One you build, hang on the ceiling and don't touch ! Now if you clean around it and knock it off the ceiling then forget about the indestructible part!
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here's one.......
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Mike, I am not sure about the Bobcat....it's BVM so the quality is there but IMO BV's stuff is fragile. We have a bandit and it's a good thing my son flys it and not me, I would have torn the gear out of it a long time ago. I have also seen a bandit have a stab depart in a high G turn, it was 160 powered (overall bad decision anyway).

Addison Clark has a Bobcat that he flys the living' crap out of and it appears fine, but again he is a very smooth pilot!

For my money, and in my personal experience, the Comp ARF Flash is about as indestructible as you can get. I have planted my flash on the runway time after time and she just taxis back to the pits ( that was when I first starting flying her, I have the landings nailed now). I routinely make max power passes finishing with a 180 degree turn by pulling full elevator and she just laughs at it. It has been put down twice due to flame outs. The first was zero damage, the second requires some minor repair and paint work. I have a buddy that has had his in three times due to flame outs, no damage besides some paint. All five were gear up.

I have built 4 of them and the dollar to value ratio is off scale high, they fly great (classic flash, the ultra flys better), and they are as tough as an airframe you can get.
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That on piece wing can take a licking.
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That on piece wing can take a licking.
That's the facts jack!
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Old 12-18-2011, 09:45 AM
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If any of you were at Dixie Jets this year you would have seen Chad PLANT his flash HARD! He hit so hard that all 3 gear were snapped off....this is Dreamworks pro-link gear. He snapped the trunnion on one main and the strut on the other. The mount rails did not whimper! The ONLY damage to the wing was the retract covers (fiberglass plate the covers the retract and holds the wing servos). They got gashed when the struts departed the wing....
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Most amazing flying I've seen was Schui flying an Ultra Bandit at JetPower 2010. Couldn't believe the violent turns the model could take. I was zoomed out and I STILL couldn't keep up with the direction changes. I couldn't keep the camera steady toward the end of the flight because I was laughing so much.

Think I heard that it had a specially reinforced wing joiner so it could take the punishment.

This one flight was the one moment of inspiration I needed to start flying turbines next year. Can't wait.

(one example of hi G turn at 3:23)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAG83..._qcgDmeVg-dxiQ

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Old 12-18-2011, 11:54 AM
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+1 more on the Flash, the 'Flex-Plates' rule out any of the BobCat IMO, they break, which is what they are designed to do.
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Old 12-18-2011, 01:49 PM
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As far as taking abuse I would say the Hotspot with the Obechi sheeted wings and slolid fins was almost tank like. I dont think you could beat those for first turbine airplanes.

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+1 on the Ultra Flash!!!! Sherman tank strong and flys on rails!!! All day long as good as a bandit for half the cha Ching!! I've had both and would never subject the B to the G loads I would my UF. Don't get me wrong,,, bandits fly great !!! Just nowhere near as strong as the UF.
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Old 12-18-2011, 02:44 PM
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Comp Arf needs to make a small ULTRA FLASH for edf. He would sell a ***** ton of em!!!
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I have (4) four flash. I ultra and 3 regular. converting all to ultra's.
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Mike, to answer your question, the bobcat will take anything you throw at it in the air. The wings will not come off , the wing tube will bend before the wing fails! Just PM Wojtek and ask him for some Bobcat videos from when he had the big engine on it. While I am not recomending you try this at home the plane is solid and strong in all the right places.
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Agree on the Hotspot with foam wings.. specially with some mods! however my impression too is that the Flash can take as more G´s as anyone without cracking or breaking things up.



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Good news! They do....





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I have flown many sparks.. Good fun but definitely not a Jr. Ultra Flash,,, Thats for sure..
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I have flown many sparks.. Good fun but definitely not a Jr. Ultra Flash,,, Thats for sure..
I'll second that, cleared the hangar of both my Sparks, great flying plane but it is not a Flash, Classic or other.

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What I want to know is how you land a Flash hard enough to break trailing link gear, Damn[X(]

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Whats up with the Spark? How does it fly different?
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Most amazing flying I've seen was Schui flying an Ultra Bandit at JetPower 2010. Couldn't believe the violent turns the model could take. I was zoomed out and I STILL couldn't keep up with the direction changes. I couldn't keep the camera steady toward the end of the flight because I was laughing so much.

Think I heard that it had a specially reinforced wing joiner so it could take the punishment.

This one flight was the one moment of inspiration I needed to start flying turbines next year. Can't wait.

(one example of hi G turn at 3:23)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAG83..._qcgDmeVg-dxiQ

I think that is the most G's I have seen on a model airplane or any plane for that matter. You think it
was in the 30, 40 G range? Idono... Impressive flight.
I am getting into jets also... What a video !!

Cheers
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