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    Is there an indestructible jet?

    I've heard the bvm bobcat can take anything. Is this true? ie can you fly at top speed and give full throw inputs without the wings coming off? I know its possible with the materials we have, just wondering if its been done.

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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    Carf Ultra Flash takes lots of abuse...its really strong.

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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    Opus V-jet and Funjet Ultra does handle alot of abuse :-)

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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    Is there an indestructible jet? Yes ! One you build, hang on the ceiling and don't touch ! Now if you clean around it and knock it off the ceiling then forget about the indestructible part!

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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    here's one.......
    All I ask is for a chance to prove that money can\'t make me happy......

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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    Mike, I am not sure about the Bobcat....it's BVM so the quality is there but IMO BV's stuff is fragile. We have a bandit and it's a good thing my son flys it and not me, I would have torn the gear out of it a long time ago. I have also seen a bandit have a stab depart in a high G turn, it was 160 powered (overall bad decision anyway).

    Addison Clark has a Bobcat that he flys the living' crap out of and it appears fine, but again he is a very smooth pilot!

    For my money, and in my personal experience, the Comp ARF Flash is about as indestructible as you can get. I have planted my flash on the runway time after time and she just taxis back to the pits ( that was when I first starting flying her, I have the landings nailed now). I routinely make max power passes finishing with a 180 degree turn by pulling full elevator and she just laughs at it. It has been put down twice due to flame outs. The first was zero damage, the second requires some minor repair and paint work. I have a buddy that has had his in three times due to flame outs, no damage besides some paint. All five were gear up.

    I have built 4 of them and the dollar to value ratio is off scale high, they fly great (classic flash, the ultra flys better), and they are as tough as an airframe you can get.
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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    That on piece wing can take a licking.
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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?


    ORIGINAL: ddlstang

    That on piece wing can take a licking.
    That's the facts jack!
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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    If any of you were at Dixie Jets this year you would have seen Chad PLANT his flash HARD! He hit so hard that all 3 gear were snapped off....this is Dreamworks pro-link gear. He snapped the trunnion on one main and the strut on the other. The mount rails did not whimper! The ONLY damage to the wing was the retract covers (fiberglass plate the covers the retract and holds the wing servos). They got gashed when the struts departed the wing....
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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?



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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    Most amazing flying I've seen was Schui flying an Ultra Bandit at JetPower 2010. Couldn't believe the violent turns the model could take. I was zoomed out and I STILL couldn't keep up with the direction changes. I couldn't keep the camera steady toward the end of the flight because I was laughing so much.

    Think I heard that it had a specially reinforced wing joiner so it could take the punishment.

    This one flight was the one moment of inspiration I needed to start flying turbines next year. Can't wait.

    (one example of hi G turn at 3:23)

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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?


    ORIGINAL: SJN




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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    +1 more on the Flash, the 'Flex-Plates' rule out any of the BobCat IMO, they break, which is what they are designed to do.

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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    As far as taking abuse I would say the Hotspot with the Obechi sheeted wings and slolid fins was almost tank like. I dont think you could beat those for first turbine airplanes.

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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    +1 on the Ultra Flash!!!! Sherman tank strong and flys on rails!!! All day long as good as a bandit for half the cha Ching!! I've had both and would never subject the B to the G loads I would my UF. Don't get me wrong,,, bandits fly great !!! Just nowhere near as strong as the UF.
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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    Comp Arf needs to make a small ULTRA FLASH for edf. He would sell a ***** ton of em!!!
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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    I have (4) four flash. I ultra and 3 regular. converting all to ultra's.

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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    Mike, to answer your question, the bobcat will take anything you throw at it in the air. The wings will not come off , the wing tube will bend before the wing fails! Just PM Wojtek and ask him for some Bobcat videos from when he had the big engine on it. While I am not recomending you try this at home the plane is solid and strong in all the right places.

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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    Agree on the Hotspot with foam wings.. specially with some mods! however my impression too is that the Flash can take as more Gยดs as anyone without cracking or breaking things up.



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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    Comp Arf needs to make a small ULTRA FLASH for edf.
    Good news! They do....





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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?


    I have flown many sparks.. Good fun but definitely not a Jr. Ultra Flash,,, Thats for sure..
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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?


    ORIGINAL: AFTERBURNER1


    I have flown many sparks.. Good fun but definitely not a Jr. Ultra Flash,,, Thats for sure..
    I'll second that, cleared the hangar of both my Sparks, great flying plane but it is not a Flash, Classic or other.

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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    What I want to know is how you land a Flash hard enough to break trailing link gear, Damn[X(]

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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?

    Whats up with the Spark? How does it fly different?
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    RE: Is there an indestructible jet?


    ORIGINAL: DominicM

    Most amazing flying I've seen was Schui flying an Ultra Bandit at JetPower 2010. Couldn't believe the violent turns the model could take. I was zoomed out and I STILL couldn't keep up with the direction changes. I couldn't keep the camera steady toward the end of the flight because I was laughing so much.

    Think I heard that it had a specially reinforced wing joiner so it could take the punishment.

    This one flight was the one moment of inspiration I needed to start flying turbines next year. Can't wait.

    (one example of hi G turn at 3:23)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAG83..._qcgDmeVg-dxiQ

    I think that is the most G's I have seen on a model airplane or any plane for that matter. You think it
    was in the 30, 40 G range? Idono... Impressive flight.
    I am getting into jets also... What a video !!

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