Spektrum DX18
02-04-2012, 04:42 AM
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RE: Spektrum DX18
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But what good is CHEEP if it keeps crashing airplanes lke the 5-6 and 7 models?
But what good is CHEEP if it keeps crashing airplanes lke the 5-6 and 7 models?
The radio no matter what brand gets the blame a lot, I have seen loads of models especially sport prop planes with battery's and receivers just lying unfixed in a fuselage with just a bit of foam wedged between them and the wing, then they wonder what happened when all of a sudden it spins in.
With my fullsize inspectors hat on I would be in favour of all jets having to pass an installation test (like done for large models) before being allowed to fly.
02-04-2012, 05:18 AM
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Could not agree more, the chaps on my site that had unexplained problems with 35Mhz seem to have the same problems with 2.4Ghz, unexplaind arrivals and loosing signal (so they say) in all sorts of situations, one of the regular occurancies with one chap is comming on site with a fully discharged battery, "can't understand it I charged it last night", why is it these people are the same ones who do not accept advice when given in good faith, could go on, but not the point of this thread.
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02-04-2012, 05:27 AM
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RE: Spektrum DX18
If you come to the UK and fly at any of the Classic Jet meets at Abingdon your model will be scrutinized and your instillation checked over before you can fly (usually by Geoff White)
You also have to demonstrate that your failsafe is operating by shutting down your turbine to idle when your transmitter is turned off.
Phil.
You also have to demonstrate that your failsafe is operating by shutting down your turbine to idle when your transmitter is turned off.
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02-04-2012, 05:56 AM
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RE: Spektrum DX18
ORIGINAL: ColinJ
Why do you say that
ORIGINAL: HoundDog
But what good is CHEEP if it keeps crashing airplanes lke the 5-6 and 7 models?
ORIGINAL: Xairflyer
you can have 5 of them for in price of a futaba 18mz, makes the futaba price even more ridiculous
you can have 5 of them for in price of a futaba 18mz, makes the futaba price even more ridiculous
Since about Dec 1 of 2011 I have personally wittnesed 13 models crash with no control and the pilot stand there and look at his Spectrum or (JR Using a spectrum receiver) and wondering what has just happened. Now weather they were all Radio Failure or some type of Battery (BROWNOUT) or instaltion error, who knows ... I just believe that Full FREQ Hopping (The newest Technology) to be far seperior ...IMHO
But that is why I made that statement ...
02-04-2012, 06:05 AM
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RE: Spektrum DX18
ORIGINAL: Xairflyer
I bet 99% of all the RC crashes that are not caused by pilot error, are due to poor installation/maintenance.
The radio no matter what brand gets the blame a lot, I have seen loads of models especially sport prop planes with battery's and receivers just lying unfixed in a fuselage with just a bit of foam wedged between them and the wing, then they wonder what happened when all of a sudden it spins in.
With my fullsize inspectors hat on I would be in favour of all jets having to pass an installation test (like done for large models) before being allowed to fly.
ORIGINAL: HoundDog
But what good is CHEEP if it keeps crashing airplanes lke the 5-6 and 7 models?
But what good is CHEEP if it keeps crashing airplanes lke the 5-6 and 7 models?
The radio no matter what brand gets the blame a lot, I have seen loads of models especially sport prop planes with battery's and receivers just lying unfixed in a fuselage with just a bit of foam wedged between them and the wing, then they wonder what happened when all of a sudden it spins in.
With my fullsize inspectors hat on I would be in favour of all jets having to pass an installation test (like done for large models) before being allowed to fly.
02-04-2012, 02:09 PM
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RE: Spektrum DX18
Have you read anything about DSMX? If you did, you would find out that your statements are incorrect. The older radios can be modified to bring them up to the DSMX standard. Most people will never need the upgrade due to flying in an environment of one or two other guys. All of those "concerns" have been addressed. My personal experience of over 4 years flying these radios is that I have never been able to blame the radio, without doubt, for a crash. Just one point of data on my experience.
ORIGINAL: HoundDog
I say that because the Spectrum 5-6-7 are Old Tech. 5 years is old in this hobby now. These radios operate on just 2 f the 80 or so channels of our2.4 Frequency band (SPECTRUM) These channels ar picked on the ground when the radio is turned on, Not necessarly the best pair at 300'. Other Radios msy have picked the best pairs before. This Technology also allows the 5-6-7- spectrums to pick 2 adajacent channels so if one gets interferance the other is likely to suffer the same interfearence.
Since about Dec 1 of 2011 I have personally wittnesed 13 models crash with no control and the pilot stand there and look at his Spectrum or (JR Using a spectrum receiver) and wondering what has just happened. Now weather they were all Radio Failure or some type of Battery (BROWN OUT) or instaltion error, who knows ... I just believe that Full FREQ Hopping (The newest Technology) to be far seperior ...IMHO
But that is why I made that statement ...
ORIGINAL: ColinJ
Why do you say that
ORIGINAL: HoundDog
But what good is CHEEP if it keeps crashing airplanes lke the 5-6 and 7 models?
ORIGINAL: Xairflyer
You can have 5 of them for in price of a futaba 18mz, makes the futaba price even more ridiculous
You can have 5 of them for in price of a futaba 18mz, makes the futaba price even more ridiculous
Since about Dec 1 of 2011 I have personally wittnesed 13 models crash with no control and the pilot stand there and look at his Spectrum or (JR Using a spectrum receiver) and wondering what has just happened. Now weather they were all Radio Failure or some type of Battery (BROWN OUT) or instaltion error, who knows ... I just believe that Full FREQ Hopping (The newest Technology) to be far seperior ...IMHO
But that is why I made that statement ...
02-04-2012, 03:40 PM
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RE: Spektrum DX18
ORIGINAL: on_your_six
Have you read anything about DSMX? If you did, you would find out that your statements are incorrect. The older radios can be modified to bring them up to the DSMX standard. Most people will never need the upgrade due to flying in an environment of one or two other guys. All of those "concerns" have been addressed. My personal experience of over 4 years flying these radios is that I have never been able to blame the radio, without doubt, for a crash. Just one point of data on my experience.
Have you read anything about DSMX? If you did, you would find out that your statements are incorrect. The older radios can be modified to bring them up to the DSMX standard. Most people will never need the upgrade due to flying in an environment of one or two other guys. All of those "concerns" have been addressed. My personal experience of over 4 years flying these radios is that I have never been able to blame the radio, without doubt, for a crash. Just one point of data on my experience.
ORIGINAL: HoundDog
I say that because the Spectrum 5-6-7 are Old Tech. 5 years is old in this hobby now. These radios operate on just 2 f the 80 or so channels of our2.4 Frequency band (SPECTRUM) These channels ar picked on the ground when the radio is turned on, Not necessarly the best pair at 300'. Other Radios msy have picked the best pairs before. This Technology also allows the 5-6-7- spectrums to pick 2 adajacent channels so if one gets interferance the other is likely to suffer the same interfearence.
Since about Dec 1 of 2011 I have personally wittnesed 13 models crash with no control and the pilot stand there and look at his Spectrum or (JR Using a spectrum receiver) and wondering what has just happened. Now weather they were all Radio Failure or some type of Battery (BROWNOUT) or instaltion error, who knows ... I just believe that Full FREQ Hopping (The newest Technology) to be far seperior ...IMHO
But that is why I made that statement ...
ORIGINAL: ColinJ
Why do you say that
ORIGINAL: HoundDog
But what good is CHEEP if it keeps crashing airplanes lke the 5-6 and 7 models?
ORIGINAL: Xairflyer
You can have 5 of them for in price of a futaba 18mz, makes the futaba price even more ridiculous
You can have 5 of them for in price of a futaba 18mz, makes the futaba price even more ridiculous
Since about Dec 1 of 2011 I have personally wittnesed 13 models crash with no control and the pilot stand there and look at his Spectrum or (JR Using a spectrum receiver) and wondering what has just happened. Now weather they were all Radio Failure or some type of Battery (BROWNOUT) or instaltion error, who knows ... I just believe that Full FREQ Hopping (The newest Technology) to be far seperior ...IMHO
But that is why I made that statement ...
It's sorta like their first 2 renditions of XPS Receivers. 5 or so years ago. They finally instutited full Hopping and solved their problem. With Spectrum 5-6-7 radios it's not if, butjust a mater of time. IMHO
02-04-2012, 05:20 PM
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I've have 14 flyable planes and haven't lost any to a radio issue the past 3 years. What is this fantastic rate you speak of ?
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02-05-2012, 08:13 AM
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One of the nicest features of the DX8 is the SD card slot. I don't see that in the write up for the DX18 on the Spektrum site. That would be a real shame not to have that on this new Transmitter.
02-05-2012, 01:18 PM
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I placed my order with Al's Hobbies. Pre order link here http://alshobbies.com/shop/lookupstock.php?pc=48971
02-05-2012, 02:45 PM
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Duncan, why settle for second best! It's not really an 18 channel set, even with the plug in module, it won't let you use all channels!
Besides, you can afford an 18 MZ! Anyway are you booked into Long Marston?
Besides, you can afford an 18 MZ! Anyway are you booked into Long Marston?
02-05-2012, 10:26 PM
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Probably because I have over 20 models all on spektrum, which has never failed me. I've never had a lockout so see no reason to change. Plus 2k on a tx is ridiculous when I could get this and a VT80 for the Mach 1 for the same price 
Realistically I'm never going to need 18 channels either, a 12x would do for all my models the same as it does for all of Ali's and mine are no where near as complicated as his.
Yep I'm all booked in for the JMA do and the show mate.
Realistically I'm never going to need 18 channels either, a 12x would do for all my models the same as it does for all of Ali's and mine are no where near as complicated as his.
Yep I'm all booked in for the JMA do and the show mate.
02-06-2012, 10:40 AM
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RE: Spektrum DX18
ORIGINAL: HoundDog
But what good is CHEEP if it keeps crashing airplanes lke the 5-6 and 7 models?
ORIGINAL: Xairflyer
you can have 5 of them for in price of a futaba 18mz, makes the futaba price even more ridiculous
you can have 5 of them for in price of a futaba 18mz, makes the futaba price even more ridiculous
02-06-2012, 10:53 AM
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RE: Spektrum DX18
ORIGINAL: HoundDog
Well then I suggest U get thrm modified or lesrn how to install these recievers or get bigger batteries because these Radios qre crashing planes at a fantastic rate. When an instructor stands and looks at the radio right after a students plane goes NUTZ and plants it's self I wouldn't blame it on the instructor and I'm not the only instructor to whom it's happened.
It's sorta like their first 2 renditions of XPS Receivers. 5 or so years ago. They finally instutited full Hopping and solved their problem. With Spectrum 5-6-7 radios it's not if, butjust a mater of time. IMHO
ORIGINAL: on_your_six
Have you read anything about DSMX? If you did, you would find out that your statements are incorrect. The older radios can be modified to bring them up to the DSMX standard. Most people will never need the upgrade due to flying in an environment of one or two other guys. All of those ''concerns'' have been addressed. My personal experience of over 4 years flying these radios is that I have never been able to blame the radio, without doubt, for a crash. Just one point of data on my experience.
Have you read anything about DSMX? If you did, you would find out that your statements are incorrect. The older radios can be modified to bring them up to the DSMX standard. Most people will never need the upgrade due to flying in an environment of one or two other guys. All of those ''concerns'' have been addressed. My personal experience of over 4 years flying these radios is that I have never been able to blame the radio, without doubt, for a crash. Just one point of data on my experience.
ORIGINAL: HoundDog
I say that because the Spectrum 5-6-7 are Old Tech. 5 years is old in this hobby now. These radios operate on just 2 f the 80 or so channels of our2.4 Frequency band (SPECTRUM) These channels ar picked on the ground when the radio is turned on, Not necessarly the best pair at 300'. Other Radios msy have picked the best pairs before. This Technology also allows the 5-6-7- spectrums to pick 2 adajacent channels so if one gets interferance the other is likely to suffer the same interfearence.
Since about Dec 1 of 2011 I have personally wittnesed 13 models crash with no control and the pilot stand there and look at his Spectrum or (JR Using a spectrum receiver) and wondering what has just happened. Now weather they were all Radio Failure or some type of Battery (BROWN OUT) or instaltion error, who knows ... I just believe that Full FREQ Hopping (The newest Technology) to be far seperior ...IMHO
But that is why I made that statement ...
ORIGINAL: ColinJ
Why do you say that
ORIGINAL: HoundDog
But what good is CHEEP if it keeps crashing airplanes lke the 5-6 and 7 models?
ORIGINAL: Xairflyer
You can have 5 of them for in price of a futaba 18mz, makes the futaba price even more ridiculous
You can have 5 of them for in price of a futaba 18mz, makes the futaba price even more ridiculous
Since about Dec 1 of 2011 I have personally wittnesed 13 models crash with no control and the pilot stand there and look at his Spectrum or (JR Using a spectrum receiver) and wondering what has just happened. Now weather they were all Radio Failure or some type of Battery (BROWN OUT) or instaltion error, who knows ... I just believe that Full FREQ Hopping (The newest Technology) to be far seperior ...IMHO
But that is why I made that statement ...
It's sorta like their first 2 renditions of XPS Receivers. 5 or so years ago. They finally instutited full Hopping and solved their problem. With Spectrum 5-6-7 radios it's not if, butjust a mater of time. IMHO
Sorry bro. I wouldn't go to that radio hopping dsmx stuff. Do you even fly jets?
My old 12x is working like a champ.
02-06-2012, 04:32 PM
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RE: Spektrum DX18
ORIGINAL: fly24-7
I've got a 5-year-old DX7 and have never had a crash that was due to a radio problem. I must have the ONLY 5, 6 or 7 channel Spekrtum that doesn't cause crashes? AWESOME!!! It'll be worth a few extra bucks when I go to sell it on ebay some day...
ORIGINAL: HoundDog
But what good is CHEEP if it keeps crashing airplanes lke the 5-6 and 7 models?
ORIGINAL: Xairflyer
you can have 5 of them for in price of a futaba 18mz, makes the futaba price even more ridiculous
you can have 5 of them for in price of a futaba 18mz, makes the futaba price even more ridiculous
72 Mhz worked just fine. It's like Model match If U need a crutch to make sure U are flying the correct plane maybe we should go back to 1 Radio for each plane too. The more Fool Proof they try to make things the more Fools we become. Pretty soon people will just stop thinking all together. Bad enough that people for get to hook up ailerons, charge batteries or just do stupid things and crash.
Whats that saying "U just can't fix STUPID".
02-07-2012, 05:07 AM
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RE: Spektrum DX18
ORIGINAL: John Tancock
It's not really an 18 channel set, even with the plug in module, it won't let you use all channels!
It's not really an 18 channel set, even with the plug in module, it won't let you use all channels!
Spektrum have a 10-channel and a couple of 12-channel Rx's shown on their website and lined up for release shortly. Whilst the website isn't clear (to me anyway) as to whether the 10-chan is X-Plus compatible, the two 12-chans are. So it will be possible to use all 18 channels - not forgetting the £££ for the replacement Rx.
Gordon
02-07-2012, 06:31 AM
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You can't fix arrogant either. I'm not sure why you are posting on a thread about a new product if you having nothing positive to say or any intention of using it. Have you taken over from Dennis since his ban?
02-07-2012, 09:59 AM
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Not sure what's happening on this forum these days. The way I see it is that everyone should have the right to voice an opinion as long as it is within the bounds of the site rules,likewise,everyone should have the right to disagree with said opinion or ignore it which ever suits. No need to lambaste someone who is not in love with your brand of radio, perhaps he has good reason, why not ask?
02-07-2012, 10:26 AM
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But it cuts both ways, guys come on and rubbish a product before it's even been released. No one has used it and is in a position to give useful feedback who's posted in this thread, it's all just inane, opinion based speculation.
I use a certain brands of equipment in my planes. They work great for me, there are many other brands which work great for other people as well. There are many ways of going out and having fun with toy planes without everyone feeling the need to moan on the internet because people use different gear to what they use
I use a certain brands of equipment in my planes. They work great for me, there are many other brands which work great for other people as well. There are many ways of going out and having fun with toy planes without everyone feeling the need to moan on the internet because people use different gear to what they use