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Old 02-20-2012, 04:33 PM
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Listed my A10 for sale, Mibo, twin 120s.

I received many normal inquiries and replied to questions accordingly and as soon as I could.

One person asks me if it can carry a "payload" and then if there are FAA regulations about flying it etc.


SO, that sounded odd to me that anyone who is remotely interested in jets would not know something more than to ask these questions - especially together.

Now, perhaps I was oversenstivie to these key words.

Now I have recieved an email from this person who feels that I was listing this in order to scam/spam information on potential buyers, what a joke.

For those who know me, I hope you can imagine how far that is from the truth.

I felt that my concern regarding this enquiry required caution in response give some of the recent headlines about recent model jet stories that have been les than favorable...


Would you sell your jet to a person with these questions?

Thanks for your time.

Dave

Old 02-20-2012, 04:44 PM
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Dave, your interested person may be naive or young or stupid. It's difficult to know with out knowing the person. Personally I would sell to him for the right $.

You will have his personal information upon the sale. If you feel it's important to inform the authorties (FBI) you are free to do so.

Just MHO
Old 02-20-2012, 04:59 PM
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If it were me I wouldnt entertain an offer from someone like that. It a really nice looking model and I'm sure you'll find a responsible, experienced buyer. You owe it to the jet community to make a wise choice on this one. The hobby we all enjoy so much can't afford bad press, or worse an avoidable accident. That's my two cents.
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Probably not. The fact that you are concerned and asking answers the question IMO. This doesn't sound like a modeler that is ready for a large jet. If you did sell it to him and the person did have nefarious intent that he carried out, the authorities would be asking you a LOT of questions....were you suspicious? Did you notify anyone? Why not?

I would play it out and see if you remained concerned or not. If you are, I would report it. You might be doing a lot people a BIG favor including your fellow modelers.

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Old 02-20-2012, 06:34 PM
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Dave I definitely would not sell to such a person.

I have had similar inquiries in the past and did not follow up.

Besides, in addition to the potential risk, the personal insult would

be more than sufficient to tell him to take a flying hike ! ! !

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HI Roger,

Thanks for your reply. If I do sell I will be looking for a new kit!

Wish I could come to 66 this year but it is the same time as a big work mtg.

Take care, hope to see you this summer.
Dave
Old 02-20-2012, 07:09 PM
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I'm with the others. Not too worried about the questions but more on the inexperience person who could possibly cause harm to himself as well as others. I would have a tough time living with myself knowing of the potential danger to others.

Just my two cents....

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I'm not buying the inexperience, or naive part. I work in the airline industry and to me that type of questioning would definitely raise some "red flags"...
I'd say do not sell to this person. Why would anyone in their right mind ask about payload carrying capabilities, and or about FAA regulations when inquiring about
an rc jet? Large or not? My .02

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Old 02-20-2012, 07:29 PM
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Yea David when you have a prospect thatmay not know you or the plane please feel free to use me as a reference. I would be delighted to give them thumbs up on accounts.
Jimbo is putting an additional fuel cell in my hawg so will have more comfortable flight time.
The new kit fuel cells are 3.7Liters each.
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Sounds like the questions of someone who knows nothing about rc models. Aren't those the normal questions of civilians who see a large model? Next will be a comment about carrying a kid or small animal.
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The AMA sent out a email last year warning members about questions like these and told members to contact your local police or FBI. This is no joke.
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Dave, in a word, YES. That guy would bother me. I wouldn't sell him a jet. Just trouble either in him being a PITA or otherwise. Not worth it in my book.
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The AMA sent out a email last year warning members about questions like these and told members to contact your local police or FBI. This is no joke.
I would turn him in now. Let the FBI figure out why he asked the questions.
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Default RE: would these questions alarm you?

I don't think you are being oversensitive. Those question would certainly cause me to be concerned if not alarmed. I agree with what has already been posted.


1. There may be some naiveté or lack of understanding what you are selling.

2. There may be nefarious intent.

3. Whether it was due to #1 or #2 above, I would not sell the jet to a person who seemingly had no idea what RC was about let alone the technical knowledge required to safely operate a Mibo A-10.

4. If you have any doubt of the persons intent, contact someone (AMA, FAA, FBI).



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Old 02-21-2012, 07:12 AM
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Describe the A-10 "HOG" in the advert as being smothered in pork fat.
Old 02-21-2012, 07:34 AM
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Oh yea If he hangs around after that he's KOOL...........
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Describe the A-10 "HOG" in the advert as being smothered in pork fat.
Old 02-21-2012, 08:21 AM
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Its some dumb kid who knows nothing about it and certainly doesnt have 18K.  

I think you should give up selling it and instead charge people to fly it on a buddy box.  I'll reserve the first spot.

Old 02-21-2012, 08:41 AM
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Default RE: would these questions alarm you?

No different than selling your car to a clean customer, only to use it on a drive by shooting later on. I mean, how in depth do you want to go as far as civic responsibility? Ever sold a home, only to later find out it was paid with dirty money?
Probably cheaper, still, to get a recreational pilot license, buy a Kitfox and start dropping ordinance yourself.

Anyway, in your case you are just dealing with a kid. No I would not sell BASED on having to deal with someone who doesn't know crap about your product. Too much aftermarket work if you ask me.

Good luck,
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:13 AM
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Yea, put your personal sales brokers "FAA or FBI Incorporated" in charge of dealing with him........
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Dave. your absolutely doing the right thing to be concerned for our citizens, our hobby, and yourself. Had a similar thing happen when asked to sell a registered handgun to an unregistered buyer. Just said NO. Sometimes it's just not worth the money alone. You're one of the most upstanding jet guys I know. Not worth losing your reputation over money.

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I have three opinions,
NO
NO
and let me think, hmmmmmmm NO
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Its some dumb kid who knows nothing about it and certainly doesnt have 18K.
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:10 PM
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Thanks for everyone's comments and advice.

I have no intention to sell my A10 to anyone other than a sincere, turbine qualified pilot. Too much time, money and sweat in it too.

I like the idea of selling Buddy Box flights although it would take a lot of lfying to catch up...

Dave
Old 02-21-2012, 03:51 PM
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Obviously the credit situation in the US is not as bad as everyone would have us think, if someone comes along with the monies, sell it, just make sure you tell the authorities if you think you need to.

Mike
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is the canopy easily removable ? could my pet gerbil fit in there ?


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