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Old 03-05-2018, 02:51 AM
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"Mirce models" will be again on Top Gun event this year.

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If someone wants to order F 104 wooden kit & parts, we can bring them there.

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I'll see you soon...

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Old 03-18-2018, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dionysusbacchus View Post
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.........First I made molds for the gear doors by first covering the area with Monokot.....
Next I made balsa templates for the mounting bulkheads......................
Now that the main gear are figured out, I will glue them in with Hysol and then do the nose strut, that should be a piece of cake!
Really a fantastic build you have done dionysusbacchus

I am about to buy one of this great model from Mirce, and wonder if you make templets for sale?

Tried to send you a PM, but couldnt find a PM button on your profile.

Please keeper us posten on your progres

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Old 04-19-2018, 06:06 AM
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Last call for order F 104 wooden kit & parts if you want delivery on Top Gun.

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Old 05-14-2018, 11:47 AM
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Mirce, I hope you did good in Florida, wish I could be there to give "Mirce Models" demonstration, but my model is not yet finished!!

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Really a fantastic build you have done dionysusbacchus

I am about to buy one of this great model from Mirce, and wonder if you make templets for sale?

Tried to send you a PM, but couldnt find a PM button on your profile.

Please keeper us posten on your progres

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I don't have much in the way of "templates" but something may be lost in translation. I have received other requests for parts, and I apologize but I have been to busy to make them yet. I just finished another F-4 and now I have an F-18F in my shop for a complete overhaul, but it's jobs like that providing the extra money to finish the 104!

It has been so quite, I though I would post some pictures, not much to show but I can talk a bit about what I have done so far.

I made the main gear a separate air system using all 4mm air line and fittings. That includes a Jet Model Products Extra large air tank, JMP high flow air valve, and I will tell you it make a BIG difference. I had to add a separate standard size valve for the main gear doors and a sequencer. Now the gear are perfect.

Bad picture, but I positioned the air fill valves to the nose cone, since mine is now a simple twist off.


Got my K260 installed, 57lbs of thrust! I positioned it back far enough but not too far so that the cone will not protrude when the tail is removed. You need to have room to get your arm into the fuselage in front of the turbine to get that bottom screw, I can do it easily if I remove the FOD screen first.


I will be using the Powerbox Mercury, it has GPS and a built in I-gyro. It is required on a plane this size to have redundant batteries and receivers, will be running 2 batteries and 2 receivers.



As you can see I have started to glass, the parts glassed are the nose cone, wing tanks, rudder and elevator. They are all done in 3/4oz cloth, the reason I'm using this on these parts is because they are as strong as they need to be, and I want them as light as possible. For the wings and fuselage, I will be using 1.4oz cloth, less than half what Mirce recommends, but I'm using internal reinforcement at the fuse join areas, carbon fiber and West Systems epoxy.


Notice also I have provisions now built in for a full light system.

Hope everyone else is coming along with your projects and I hope I was of some inspiration! This plane has been so much fun, I feel like Howard Hughes and his Spruce Goose. I always show it off when people come over, and they are always so impressed!
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by daorizio View Post
Hello,

this is the second flight of my new 1:4 scale Starfighter.
Not yet painted, I'll paint it as soon as possible.
29 kg at take off, behotec 165, all wood.
I draw it myself using catia, all parts are laser-cut.

I hope that you like it!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu2x9PQjk7c


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Damiano that is just amazing, one of the most scale flights I have ever seen. Very well done !!!!
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:43 AM
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Great job Luke, vacuum parts on fuselage add extra scale look, same like fins, lights...

Damiano is fantastic flyer and even better jet designer.
"Mirce models" have exclusive right to sell his F 104 and F 86 wooden kits.

With both models Damiano made many flights and prove design quality and flying performance.

Amazing is how his F 104 fly with 29 kg take off and (just) 160 size turbine. Many modelers ask about turbine size in this Starfighter, so that can be answer...
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:25 PM
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On Top Gun I sold my F 104 Starfighter. The deal is to finish the details, the panel lines, rivets on the wings and the tip tanks, and then send the model to England to Graham Buchanan who will add his "magic", complete it and install the equipment.
I hope that for the Top Gun 2019 Starfighter will be ready.

Few photos of the wings and tanks with F 104 Detail and other sets...

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Old 05-18-2018, 05:00 PM
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Looks awesome, love all those rivets! Looking forward to that myself!

I have been working on finishing turbine installation and I did run into some issues. I'm not used to such distances from turbine to nose, so I had to come up with a solution. It would be nice to have more holes cut into the heavy laminated center section formers for wires and just to lighten them a bit. I used my 90 degree Dremel attachment to cut holes between the intakes from the turbine to rout the wires to the ECU. I ended up mounting the ECU at the beginning of the split to the intakes, that is as far as the wires would go. To have access I have to crawl under the plane when it is up on a stand to get to the ECU in the landing gear bay, that should not be necessary once it's all set up and running though.

I ordered my pipe, it will be 33 1/2" long with a 4" opening at the turbine.


I would love to bring mine to Top Gun for display, that would be fun. My 104 is not a good representation of a stock kit, but it shows what can be done with it if you do a little extra work.

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Old 05-19-2018, 09:33 AM
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Here are the wire routes I used on my install. Like I said on an earlier post you have to get your arm in front of the turbine to unscrew the bottom bolt, so the wires were routed in between the intake ducts. I had to cut holes in 3 very thick formers, it took a little doing, might save someone some work later if you want to position your ECU as I did.


I will run the fuel line through the same hole.

The ECU is positioned as far forward as the wires would allow, it ended up just between the intakes where they come together to go aft. I called Kingtech and they said that they don't make extensions, so you have to work with what you have and this was the best if not the only solution.

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