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Old 06-18-2012, 11:46 AM
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Default I Have a New Respect for Turbine Engines

We have all have become complacent about standing around a turbine engine while it is running in the pits. After seeing what happened to this turbine in Mt. Pleasant TX this weekend I have a new found respect for them. This particular failure happened in the air and the pilot was able to land it without incident. This could have very will happened in the pits. Turbine blades went thru the bypass and out the fuselage. There was a circle of exit holes around the entire fuselage caused by the blades.
What brand turbine or the size of the turbine is not important as this could happen to any and all turbines.

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Old 06-18-2012, 12:01 PM
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Wow, that is crazy!!!
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:02 PM
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Yep, I saw that happen. There were no blades left on the rear wheel. All had sheared off in all directions.
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I think most everyone can tell what brand it is but would be nice to know somthing of the turbines history and how much run time it has.
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kinda looks like my tail end after eating some of David Reid's mudbugs!!!!

just another reminder to tell folks to stand forward of the engine compartment at all times while it's operating.
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just another reminder to tell folks to stand forward of the engine compartment at all times while it's operating.
That's the purpose of this thread.
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:48 PM
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just another reminder to tell folks to stand forward of the engine compartment at all times while it's operating.
That's the purpose of this thread.
+1 Absolutely could happen to ANY Brand.... Safety First!
The big ones also let loose once a in a while!
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Holy lesbian blades Batman!!!

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Holy lesbian blades Batman!!!

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Old 06-18-2012, 01:11 PM
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Glad no one got hurt. I don't even sit next to the engines on full size birds and they have a one in 100,000 hour failure rate or better. The failure rates really don't matter as it only takes one time to kill you.
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Is it going to be listed in the market place as "gently used" " low run time" " case shows some wear".
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Glad no one got hurt. I don't even sit next to the engines on full size birds and they have a one in 100,000 hour failure rate or better. The failure rates really don't matter as it only takes one time to kill you.
It always bothered me on the Mitsi to look over and see that prop right there.[:-]
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:16 PM
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Perfect timing for the post, as I realized just last weekend I had become quite complacent myself. Thanks.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:27 PM
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I was there and saw it all... Great piloting skills and a perfect dead stick landing. As far as that engine goes.... She definitely thundered in the pan !!!![X(]


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Back in the day BVM supplied Kevlar burst rings that fit around the aft end of their bypass. I haven't seen them used in years. Glad that nobody got hurt and the plane was able to land without further incident.

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Old 06-18-2012, 03:01 PM
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Yes! My Grandfather always reminds me to never stand by the airplane. And when I witnessed the incident, I told myself, this is a reality check. It could happen anytime, anywhere.
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Old 06-18-2012, 03:05 PM
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I had the same thing happen at the 2005 Winamac meet. Turbine threw all the blades in the air and landed the EuroSport with fire coming out the tail. Eric from Robart ran out and put out the flame. The same EuroSport still flies today with the "blade scars" as they left the airframe. To this day, I never "run up" an engine to full throttle in the pit / startup area....

Thanks for the reminder; I also had become complacent.....

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Old 06-18-2012, 03:21 PM
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Thanks for the wake-up call.
On a prop plane you see the prop as a reminder to stay out of the arc. With jets it's "out of sight, out of mind".
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We have all become complacent over the last ten years or so...I'm sure many remember when turbines were new, we all religiously stayed out of the potential debris field (i.e., directly in line with the turbine discs), kept spectators 25' away while starting, fire extinguishers immediately at hand (because we used them frequently!), etc..

The reliability level of our engines has been absolutely incredible - but it's good to be reminded that these accidents can, and will, happen. Thanks for the post, Bob-O!

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I assumed so.

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just another reminder to tell folks to stand forward of the engine compartment at all times while it's operating.
That's the purpose of this thread.
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:45 PM
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A little JB weld and It'll be good as new....
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:48 PM
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Here is a Pratt and Whitney JT8...it can happen to any turbine.

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And you for sure will love this one.

See the turbine wheel sticking out of the side of the #2 engine? Guess what? It's the turbine wheel from the #1 engine (A GE CF6-80A). The #1 was being run up and the turbine wheel exploded, shot out the bottom of the engine, bounced off of the concrete ramp. shot inboard, cut the keel beam of the jet in half (a 767-200) and then lodged itself in the #2 engine. There was a massive fire as well, large wing and fuselage damage and the jet was totaled.

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bevar,

That's an interesting picture they way the debris are laying in the mixer. Looks like a classic contained failure. In the industrical turbine world they refer to it as "shelling out" the turbine.

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Old 06-18-2012, 05:13 PM
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It was uncontained I believe. Here is the #1 engine.

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bevar,

That's an interesting picture they way the debris are laying in the mixer. Looks like a classic contained failure. In the industrical turbine world they refer to it as ''shelling out'' the turbine.

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