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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    Hi Greg,

    I always put the oil paint straight onto the paint without any clear coat, I put the clear on after the weathering and decals have been applied. The paint I use is either cellelous or acrylic basecoat.

    The panel lines are made from vinyl sheet which is cut into 0.8mm wide strips, this is applied onto the model the a coat of primer applied, the primer is then rubbed back until the vinyl appears and then they vinyl is removed to give you a simulated panel line.
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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    Very cool! Nice job.

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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    Putting some decals on to finish it off before I grease her up and clear cot her.







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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    Some more shots









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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    A shot of some grease and dirt on the underside

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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

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    A shot of some grease and dirt on the underside
    That is some serious nice work there!

    Aw heck, my Flash looks like that and I didn't even have to work at it... LOL

    Oh yea... I even added some deep scratches (read: nose wheel failure to extend) for more of an extra used effect


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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF


    ORIGINAL: vease

    One question. Do you apply the oils directly over the paint or have you put a seal on first?

    Thanks
    Thanks for the reply Phil but I lied.....2 more questions.

    Do you put the oils on neat or mixed with something?

    and what liquid do you use to wipe off the unwanted?


    I used oils on my P47 that you may have seen this year, but not sure I used it correctly?

    Maybe see you Sunday at Baldock?

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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    Hi Gregg,

    Cheeky another two questions, ok, I put the oil paints on straight out of the tube when the temperature is below 21 degrees, over that I add a very small amount white spirit.

    I wipe it off dry, nothing on the cloth, if I select an area that I don't want much weathering then I put a drop of white spirit on the cloth and remove the oil paint, you have to be careful if you put to much white spirit on the cloth it will remove all of the weathering, if that happens you will need to leave it at least 4 hours so the white spirit totally evaporates otherwise it will affect the oils paints and not give you the weathering results you will need.

    I hope this is helpful, if its not raining to much on Sunday I will pop up in the afternoon and see you there Gregg.

    BTW, love the T'bolt, looks really good mate.
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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    Thanks once again for the reply and explanation. The P47 turned out OK but was not easy and I new I was not doing it right. You have just confirmed that!

    I have a very yellow Bearcat nearing completion which needs details showing up so want to do it right this time.

    Thank you!!
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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    Have you seen Ali's bearcat I did for him, here's a photo





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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    Yes I had seen that... hope he didn't want it kept a secret!

    Looks great and a very different scheme. He must lose the spinner though!!

    Hopefully I can learn from you when doing mine which will be in this scheme:

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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    Sorry, I seem to have highjacked the thread with warbird talk!!

    Back to the superb F20 UF
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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    That's a cool scheme Gregg, if ever you need a hand feel free to pop up with a wing or fuse and I could show you first hand.

    Nah, it's not a secret
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    That's a cool scheme Gregg, if ever you need a hand feel free to pop up with a wing or fuse and I could show you first hand.
    Now that is an offer that the guys across the pond must be very jealous of.

    Much appreciated Phil, hope to see you Sunday at your field.

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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF


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    That's a cool scheme Gregg, if ever you need a hand feel free to pop up with a wing or fuse and I could show you first hand.
    Now that is an offer that many people must be very jealous of.

    Much appreciated Phil, hope to see you Sunday at your field.

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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    great job amigo!!! the desert aggressor paint scheme fits the ultraFlash nicely.

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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    It looks so much better with a couple of coats of flat clear applied.









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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    Hi Phil

    Thanks for all your threads and posts, I really learn a lot reading them. This is something I would like to try.
    I just have one question.

    Once you have done the weathering and decals what do you do as far as prep work before you shoot the clear.
    ie. sanding, cleaning, etc

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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    Hi Neil,

    During the process of painting, weathering and applying the decals I am very careful handling the model, once the decals are applied I give the model a blast with an airline to remove any dust, then a wipe with an anti static cloth, no liquids.

    Once that is completed then the clear is applied.

    I hope this is helpful.
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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    Does anyone know if the artists oil paints would be compatible under an epoxy based cleaer? I use Klass Kote epoxy paints exclusively but would like to try this weathering method.
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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    As long as you leave the oil paint to harden for between 2 to 3 days you should be fine, but I would always do a test sample.

    Whenever I am trying something new I always do a test sample to ensure that it has no reaction between the different paints.

    One type of paint you have to be careful of is Humbrol emamals, the only way to get over a reaction with this type of paint is to give it a very light dust coat before a heavy coat is applied.
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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    I got round to taking some photos today of her put together before I start the final install of the radio, engine and landing gear which I hope arrives tomorrow.

















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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    Canopy glass fitted



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    RE: Making an Ultra Flash into an F-20UF

    Looks great Phil, it's really coming together well. Refreshing look to the popular Flash.
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