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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life


    ORIGINAL: jetpilot

    Ok since we are all coming clean here, I have a confession. I chased a bird with my Quad Copter.
    I know, I know! PETA probably combs these forums looking for guys like me to take down and take down hard!!
    I realize I might have scared the crap out of that black bird and hes probably never going to be able to come near my car again and drop his bombs on it!!
    There, its done!! I cant change the past! Ill stick to cutting grass and inhaling dragon flies!
    Wait, one more confession, I also chase my dogs with it, but they like it!!
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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    I can appreciate the humor about commercial airliners flying at 200 feet and what not, but have any of you guys considered a scenario where a runaway RC jet keeps climbing into the clouds? There are any number of failures that could cause that to occur. In such a scenario, with five or ten minutes of fuel on board and a model jet climbing wings level, it is well within the realm of possibility for a model jet to reach an altitude that would be a threat to a full scale airplane flying IFR. Don't forget, we are not just talking about airliners, but small general aviation aircraft flying IFR in the clouds as well.

    Just for kicks, I pulled out some low altitude charts just to see what the MEA's (minimum enroute altitudes) were on some typical low altitude Victor routes. In the state of New Jersey, I found some as low as 1800 feet. That's above sea level, not above the ground. The ground is about 100' above sea level below those routes. That means an airplane could be flying along at 1700' AGL, fat dumb and happy in the clouds, secure in the knowledge ATC is guaranteeing separation from other air traffic. Smacking into a runaway model jet doing 200 mph would put quite a damper on a pilot's day.

    Yes, I know, the same thing can happen on a clear day. The difference is that on a clear day you have your model in sight, at least before it goes out of control. If you are goofing off flying your jet in the clouds, you don't.

    As RC jet pilots, we are by our very nature flying by visual flight rules, VFR. Whether you are flying a Cessna 150 or a Boeing 767 under VFR, you are required to stay clear of clouds.



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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    Someone once told me if my aunt had balls shed be my uncle.

    this thread reminds me of this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK3GO...eature=related

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK3GOFqVSyI&feature=related[/youtube]
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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    I'm a pilot and an rc flyer also and its irresponsible to put an rc model anywhere you can't see it well (clouds or too far away) i fly at 2 different fields and i have seen stuff that made the hair on back of my neck stand up, once a lear jet with USAF markings flew about 4-500 altitude about 1/4 mile north of our field while i had my sig king kobra up in the air, scared the crap outta me. nearest airport was 7 miles west of this rc field and he was way below pattern altitude at the time and we also fly at another location where we do on rare occasion see Air National Guard C-130s doing low altitude scud training runs 2-300 feet off the ground. these have come within 1/2 mile of that particular rc field. Pretty spectaculer to see them, not so much when i'm in the air with them. I flew ultralights quite often also and i have often thought about what if i see these guys while i'm up there floating around, hate to get run over by a c-130, I fly primarily light sport/experimental type aircraft now called avid-flyer, plus i'm also building another avid

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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life


    ORIGINAL: Erik R

    Phillip,

    You made an honest mistake,and came on here humbly,asking for advice on how to avoid/handle it in the future.You can only learn good judgement through experience.I believe you will.What upset me was it being posted here that there was intentional cloud penetration for fun.I believe you learned a lesson here,and it will make you a better jet pilot in the future.Regards,

    Erik

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    I can't believe that a couple of people disregard the AMA rule and/or downplay their actions.
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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life


    ORIGINAL: jetpilot

    Someone once told me if my aunt had balls shed be my uncle.

    this thread reminds me of this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK3GO...eature=related

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK3GOFqVSyI&feature=related[/youtube]
    LMAORAITF. Ha. Ha. This made my night. Lol.
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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    All i can say about this thread is WOW and

    wisdom often falls on deaf ears.

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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    Safety first.

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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life


    [quote]ORIGINAL: jetpilot


    ORIGINAL: Erik R


    ORIGINAL: -JC-

    Phillip,

    I have flown into

    John,

    I've quoted your original post,

    Erik

    John,

    Scott
    Thats mean, and there is not a reason in the world to do that, not to a fellow flier. And maybe im mean to call you on this, but i will erase this as soon as you see it.
    John

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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    The truly superior pilot uses his superior judgement to avoid
    situations where he will have to use his superior skills. - ANON.

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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life


    [quote]ORIGINAL: sailing1

    What?????
    Arn't all pilots in the UK IFR rated?
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    If the BMFA have their way, we'll be IFR, & ATPL rated; and that's without taking precautions before cloud penetration!




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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    Seems to me that if one is flying a RC airplane where they can hit a commercial airplane at 250 or even 400 feet, they must be flying on the tarmac!

    The best time to chase a bird is when you have the money to buy a new plane.  Ask Captain Chesley Burnett "Sully" Sullenberger, III.  Make sure you're by a river and take water landing lessons first.

    Low clouds are awesome.  Straight up, once out of sight, kill the sticks, then let gravity and luck be on your side.  I sure wouldn't approach them on a horizontal path but wow, the thrill of finding her before the ground does is incredible.  (only try this at your local renegade field). 

    Ok...Pandora's box is now open.  Come get me!
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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    ORIGINAL: Boomerang1

    The truly superior pilot uses his superior judgement to avoid
    situations where he will have to use his superior skills. - ANON.

    John.

    "A good pilot needs superior judgement, so he never needs to demonstrate superior airmanship!"
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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life



    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12CDQ5UlLGU&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    Once upon a time, on a day with a MASIVE overcast, the most heinous crime in all RC aviation history would be committed…

    The dreaded, FAA, CAA, FBI, TSA, GAPA and RCU prohibited REAR CLOUD PENETRATION!!!

    Sorry Guys Please be Good!!!???
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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    Who knows what these massive clouds could possibly hide? An Airbus 380 at cruise altitude at FL0002? Maybe the lost Squadron 19, missing in the Bermuda Triangle? Or, a squadron of Red Tail Mustangs??? The lives of hundreds, if not thousands are at risk.
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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    After about 1/10th of a second, but what must have felt like hours of uncontrolled IFR flying, the offending RC jet miraculously reappears. Dumb luck, or could it be a miracle, an amazing act of God?
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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    In the meantime, the GAPA members where thumping their chests like a cage full of Zoo buffoons, and the verdict was a collective. STONE HIM, blasphemy, call the FAA… Because, after all, a certain group of RCU full size flyers simply can’t post here without letting us know how special they are, and how much safer and better they are at flying toy airplanes BECAUSE… they are REAL pilots and flew the Hawker Numbnuts with RAF in WW1 or can recite 2564 FAA and CAA regulations. PLUS… They can QUOTE what others wrote so it will NEVER go away. How F-ing special you are.

    Girls, its time for you to go get a pedicure or a Brazilian wax. At least do something to make your day more interesting.
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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    You're a class act John !!

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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life



    John,  that AA pilot just flew me to San Franciso and he went through hundreds of clouds!  I thought I heard him hit four 60 sized planes on the landing.   I think I'll sue!

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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    The force is strong with this one.. congrats for your nice save!




    Talking about flying fast and high with clouds around.. just uploaded a short video of the SHS and a friendΒ΄s Flash in Argentina this weekend. See if you can spot the airplane, lol.


    It was a awesome meeting, and I will upload some pics and info from there soon.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dg3...4&feature=plcp


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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    Man, john that was a close one!
    Lmao!
    Hilarious.
    Some people take themselves way too serious
    probably pretending to call tower before takeoff and landing.
    Dreaming up all these what if scenarios with a sky is falling mentality.
    I been watching john fly for the last 10-12 year's and hes one of the best pilots I know.
    You've never met or seen john fly if you think he's irresponsible.
    That's the real humor in this thread.
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    ORIGINAL: pmerritt



    John,Β* that AA pilot just flew me to San Franciso and he went through hundreds of clouds!Β* IΒ*thought I heard him hitΒ*fourΒ*60 sized planes onΒ*the landing.Β* Β*I think I'll sue!

    Sure one wasn't a .15 size foamy??
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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    This thread is hilarious! The cloud penetration act is a classic, and will live on forever.

    Besides, the OP is from England. He lives there!

    Cut him a break! In England they know the sky is blue, because they saw it on pictures (taken in another country, of course).

    If you are standing on the ground in England, above you, you have some air (not much), and then clouds. That's it, clouds. The swallows are IFR rated in Merry Old... They always fly in clouds! They spend days penetrating clouds. Nothing but clouds there... Normally when they have thunder and lightning, lightning does not hit property, because it cannot see the ground! Lightning moves up, and sideways (because of the penetrated clouds)!

    Good that no cloud was hurt during the event. A shame we do not have a penetration video, but most likely it would be edited bu the local censors...

    Gerry




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    RE: One of the luckiest days of my life

    Class act for sure. Christensen is very good on the sticks and one of the turbine guys to beat at Top Gun.... always a leader of the pack. Wish I had his flight scores. John flew the sh#t out of his t-33 this year. Hope to see it again in '13.

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