JC Rabbit 100 question
10-17-2012, 04:51 PM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
Yeah, but I do like having a little more thrust available. A buddy is putting a K80 in his Elan, but a K100 would be in that 22lb thrust range...and give options down the road for use in other jets.
But, I will admit, I'm just a little leery of KingTech.
But, I will admit, I'm just a little leery of KingTech.
10-17-2012, 05:02 PM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
One thing to consider,the rabbit is small. An airframe for a 80N turbine will usually require the turbine mounts to be modified to be made smaller. Know of 2 people who have fires due to this mod failing. The turbine moves, and the exhaust burns the jet. The mod needs to e done right, no room for error here
No reason to be wary of kingtech at all. Ill be going kingtech here on out.
No reason to be wary of kingtech at all. Ill be going kingtech here on out.
10-17-2012, 05:41 PM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
ORIGINAL: VF84sluggo
Yeah, but I do like having a little more thrust available. A buddy is putting a K80 in his Elan, but a K100 would be in that 22lb thrust range...and give options down the road for use in other jets.
Yeah, but I do like having a little more thrust available. A buddy is putting a K80 in his Elan, but a K100 would be in that 22lb thrust range...and give options down the road for use in other jets.
If you want options for down the road then get a Cheetah, it's small, state of art (just like the Rabbit) and it packs 31 Lbs of thrust.... that's what they made the left stick for
10-17-2012, 05:55 PM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
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JET CENtRAL ENGINES ARE APPROVED FOR DIESEL AND @ 2 CYCLE OIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Unlike the Rabbit, the K100 will run on diesel and 2 cycle oil...and it does not affect the warranty. For myself, I get diesel for free and the cheapest kero around is 2.50 a litre (twice the price of diesel fuel) so it is a no brainer. I have used my 170F on both kero and diesel and I cannot tell a difference between the 2 fuels. (it actually starts smoother on diesel and i get a bit more white smoke upon shut down)
ORIGINAL: BlueBus320
thanks guys. Leaning heavily towards Kingtech K100. Not the prettiest, but relatively cheap & reliable from what I can find
thanks guys. Leaning heavily towards Kingtech K100. Not the prettiest, but relatively cheap & reliable from what I can find
10-17-2012, 06:14 PM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
ORIGINAL: RCISFUN
.... that's what they made the left stick for
ORIGINAL: VF84sluggo
Yeah, but I do like having a little more thrust available. A buddy is putting a K80 in his Elan, but a K100 would be in that 22lb thrust range...and give options down the road for use in other jets.
Yeah, but I do like having a little more thrust available. A buddy is putting a K80 in his Elan, but a K100 would be in that 22lb thrust range...and give options down the road for use in other jets.
Sluggo
10-17-2012, 07:30 PM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
Jet Central got back to me & had an interesting point. Eric said they purposely leave out the solenoids so if one malfunctions one day, they'll mail it out as soon as you call, & it's a fix at home job, where as Kingtech, or Jetcat 100's supposedly would be a send back to factory ordeal. Any K or P-100 owners care to shed light? Ever look under the cover of one of them?
Good point by Jet Central, but I remember all the smack the RAM, AMT etc. guys talked about electric auto start when that 1st came out. They swore up & down that you'd burn your turbine without an air supply, & although reluctantly, they eventually all followed suit.. so I think under the cover solenoids are the wave of the future.
Good point by Jet Central, but I remember all the smack the RAM, AMT etc. guys talked about electric auto start when that 1st came out. They swore up & down that you'd burn your turbine without an air supply, & although reluctantly, they eventually all followed suit.. so I think under the cover solenoids are the wave of the future.
10-18-2012, 02:08 AM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
That's bull Eric will tell you anything to sell you turbine. JC does not have the Technology to put them internally. To be honest Jet Cat I think is the only turbine manufacturer that does any kind of R&D and then the others copy. Give it a few months and see that JC will have everything internal as well. The only draw back about Jet Cat is that they are in such high demand that you can't get a turbine if you wanted one. And king tech is great because you get a great turbine that is very reliable with life time warranty that is $1000 cheaper than there competition.
10-18-2012, 02:49 AM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
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That's bull Eric will tell you anything to sell you turbine. JC does not have the Technology to put them internally. To be honest Jet Cat I think is the only turbine manufacturer that does any kind of R&D and then the others copy. Give it a few months and see that JC will have everything internal as well. The only draw back about Jet Cat is that they are in such high demand that you can't get a turbine if you wanted one. And king tech is great because you get a great turbine that is very reliable with life time warranty that is $1000 cheaper than there competition.
That's bull Eric will tell you anything to sell you turbine. JC does not have the Technology to put them internally. To be honest Jet Cat I think is the only turbine manufacturer that does any kind of R&D and then the others copy. Give it a few months and see that JC will have everything internal as well. The only draw back about Jet Cat is that they are in such high demand that you can't get a turbine if you wanted one. And king tech is great because you get a great turbine that is very reliable with life time warranty that is $1000 cheaper than there competition.
There are a lot of different manufacturers that do their own R&D and don't copy and when I've stripped them for servicing/maintenance/repair the internals do vary a great deal.
This is not meant to be negative in any way but the original P80 was based on the KJ66 with refinements.
Rob.
10-18-2012, 02:59 AM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
ORIGINAL: Newskin78
That's bull Eric will tell you anything to sell you turbine. JC does not have the Technology to put them internally. To be honest Jet Cat I think is the only turbine manufacturer that does any kind of R&D and then the others copy. Give it a few months and see that JC will have everything internal as well. The only draw back about Jet Cat is that they are in such high demand that you can't get a turbine if you wanted one. And king tech is great because you get a great turbine that is very reliable with life time warranty that is $1000 cheaper than there competition.
That's bull Eric will tell you anything to sell you turbine. JC does not have the Technology to put them internally. To be honest Jet Cat I think is the only turbine manufacturer that does any kind of R&D and then the others copy. Give it a few months and see that JC will have everything internal as well. The only draw back about Jet Cat is that they are in such high demand that you can't get a turbine if you wanted one. And king tech is great because you get a great turbine that is very reliable with life time warranty that is $1000 cheaper than there competition.
Ya because it takes so much technology to relocate an on off solenoid............
10-18-2012, 04:15 AM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
The valves mounted under the front cover of a P-100 are the same valves that were mounted externally. There would be no problem removeing the front cover to replace a failed valve if need be. I have never replaced a valve in 14yrs running JC motors so i woudnt consider it a high failure part. I like having the simple one fuel line install. I believe the JC RXi motor also has the same external fuel pump mounted under the cover which also can be serviced by the owner.
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Vin...
10-18-2012, 04:43 AM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
ORIGINAL: VF84sluggo
I'm looking for a turbine to go in an Elan I just got. I hear great stuff about the Rabbit, and two guys in my club have them and rave about it. But dang, at $200 more than a P100RX, the Rabbit seems pricey to me.
The K100G looks great, but wow, is that a big engine or what?! Thanks for the pic, Essyou35! With an engine that big, I might as well pull the P120 out of my L39 and put it in the Elan!
Sluggo
I'm looking for a turbine to go in an Elan I just got. I hear great stuff about the Rabbit, and two guys in my club have them and rave about it. But dang, at $200 more than a P100RX, the Rabbit seems pricey to me.
The K100G looks great, but wow, is that a big engine or what?! Thanks for the pic, Essyou35! With an engine that big, I might as well pull the P120 out of my L39 and put it in the Elan!
Sluggo
Rabbit 100 with P-120sx on left, P-80SE on right. Wife away on business, new dining room table centre piece Mike
10-18-2012, 05:38 AM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
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Direct comparison of what???? Put the P100 and the and the K100G then you can talk. That's like comparing a fat girl and a skinny girl.
Direct comparison of what???? Put the P100 and the and the K100G then you can talk. That's like comparing a fat girl and a skinny girl.
So which one of these engines have you run in an Élan?
PaulD
10-18-2012, 12:37 PM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
ORIGINAL: PaulD
I think it IS a useful comparison as these are all typical engines that people put in Elans. Also the Rabbit and P80 put out pretty much the same thrust but there is a considerable weight and size difference.
So which one of these engines have you run in an Élan?
PaulD
ORIGINAL: Newskin78
Direct comparison of what???? Put the P100 and the and the K100G then you can talk. That's like comparing a fat girl and a skinny girl.
Direct comparison of what???? Put the P100 and the and the K100G then you can talk. That's like comparing a fat girl and a skinny girl.
So which one of these engines have you run in an Élan?
PaulD
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10-18-2012, 12:41 PM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11.../anchor/tm.htm
The Rabbit is the same price as the JC P100 for a limited time, see link above, and you get free shipping, hard to beat that deal!
10-18-2012, 12:47 PM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
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One thing to consider,the rabbit is small. An airframe for a 80N turbine will usually require the turbine mounts to be modified to be made smaller. Know of 2 people who have fires due to this mod failing. The turbine moves, and the exhaust burns the jet. The mod needs to e done right, no room for error here
No reason to be wary of kingtech at all. Ill be going kingtech here on out.
One thing to consider,the rabbit is small. An airframe for a 80N turbine will usually require the turbine mounts to be modified to be made smaller. Know of 2 people who have fires due to this mod failing. The turbine moves, and the exhaust burns the jet. The mod needs to e done right, no room for error here
No reason to be wary of kingtech at all. Ill be going kingtech here on out.
10-18-2012, 12:49 PM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
ORIGINAL: PaulD
I think it IS a useful comparison as these are all typical engines that people put in Elans. Also the Rabbit and P80 put out pretty much the same thrust but there is a considerable weight and size difference.
So which one of these engines have you run in an Élan?
PaulD
ORIGINAL: Newskin78
Direct comparison of what???? Put the P100 and the and the K100G then you can talk. That's like comparing a fat girl and a skinny girl.
Direct comparison of what???? Put the P100 and the and the K100G then you can talk. That's like comparing a fat girl and a skinny girl.
So which one of these engines have you run in an Élan?
PaulD
10-18-2012, 03:13 PM
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RE: JC Rabbit 100 question
Just spoke to Henry at Modellbau USA and he sold me a King Tech K100G for $1799 shipped. He told me that he will beat any deal out there now. Apparently only good till Sunday
www.ModellbauUSA.com
www.ModellbauUSA.com
02-25-2016, 03:17 PM
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So out of these motors whats a good match for the usa vipor 1.7 or a 2m?Honestly internal parts don't bother me either way.I prefer it to be outside the engine I would think because don't the turbine get hot.
02-25-2016, 05:01 PM
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You may want to look at the new JC Bee 80 SE
18 Lbs of thrust in a small package
USARC Jets is also a dealer
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-j...ts-2016-a.html
18 Lbs of thrust in a small package
USARC Jets is also a dealer
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-j...ts-2016-a.html
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I believe the Rabbit 100 that I was looking at comes with the new ecu and led control panel.The BEE I believe is to small for a 20lb jet.I at least want 1:1 torque to weight ratio or better.My first turbine and looking for more models that it can be compatible with 2m problubly being the largest but I cant fly unless it has some clime authority.My last jet I could not even clime with out stalling but was some years ago.Live and learn after many years want it right the first time.Service is a big deal don't want to ship it off over seas.