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Old 10-29-2012, 12:44 PM
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Default Cincinnati Jet Club F-18's project

I thought I would start a thread on our new winter project, so to speak. A group of us here in Cincinnati (Joe Dirr, Mike Molnar and myself) decided that we need to have a large Yellow Aircraft F-18 Hornet by next year. So after sorting out the details, we called Shaun up and ordered two of them....Joe D. already had his F-18 kit.

Don't expect an orderly build thread here, as I had already done much of the work on Joe D's F-18 and will soon just start the other two. There will be a little back and forth.

I would like to hear from any owner/builders of this airplane. I am looking to beef it up in some areas, especially the wing mounts. All three of us are putting large turbines in them and would like to feel confident they will stay together.

Here are some pics of the day the other two arrived on a skid at Joe's work.....
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:49 PM
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The powerplants.....

Joe Dirr- Behotec 180 Gold 43lbs of thrust
Joe Westrich- Jetcat 200SX 52lbs of thrust
Mike Molnar- Jetcat 180(older style) 45lbs of thrust (poss upgrade to a 200SX)

My little girl inspecting the new 200SX
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:53 PM
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Default RE: Cincinnati Jet Club F-18's project

Joe D. has a head start....
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Default RE: Cincinnati Jet Club F-18's project

We have a few scale mods we will be doing as well. Joe D. can chime in later on the details but right now we are looking at scale flap hinges, scratch built cockpits with poss the iflytailies screens, scale folding ladder, lights, operating canopies, etc...

We are going to try out the tires that invertmast makes. Anything is better than the foam.
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Old 10-29-2012, 01:04 PM
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Default RE: Cincinnati Jet Club F-18's project

This is my choice on color scheme.... Since Lewis took my other scheme
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Default RE: Cincinnati Jet Club F-18's project

My choice for a color sheme...
What could have been...
What I hope it doesn't become.

Mike
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Default RE: Cincinnati Jet Club F-18's project

Joe W.

Glad to see you've started a build thread; It'll be a good place showcase some of the special features we're adding to our Y/A F-18's and obtain feedback from those who have built one or more these beautiful birds!

Next, I'll post some photos of what we've done so far.

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Here's my choice -
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We all thought the nose wheel steering needed something better than a pull-pull cable system.

Therefore, I designed a direct drive setup that has no play between the nose strut tiller arm and the servo arm.

The Monster Links on the tiller arm have been sleeved with brass tubing.

The 4-40 rod is threaded ONLY on the servo arm side; the rod on the tiller arm side has no threads and is meant to BOTTOM OUT in the Monster links when the nose strut is extended.

When the nose strut retracts the 4-40 rods pull away from the Monster links on the tiller arm about 1/4"; the brass tubes are 1-1/4 long providing plenty of overlap of the 4-40 rods.

It seems to work very well and should provide very precise steering control.

Joe D.
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:38 PM
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Default RE: Cincinnati Jet Club F-18's project

Here are a couple more pics with the nose strut retracted.

I was incorrect in my previous post; the Monster links pull away for the 4-40 rods when the nose strut retracts about 1/4", leaving about 1" of overlap.
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Default RE: Cincinnati Jet Club F-18's project

HOLLY COW.....THIS WILL BE A HAPPENING !!!
THIS TRIO ALONG WITH JOHN ROTH, ET AL. PANTHERS WOULD BE SOMETHING TO BEHOLD.....
THESE AT THE 8TH ROUTE 66 JETS, ALONG WITH 3 HAWGS, WOULD REALLY GIVE THE ANNUAL "BUMBLE BEES" A CHALLENGE FOR BRING THE FOLKS OUT OF THEIR CHAIRS & TENTS WITH MOUTHS OPEN.
MAYBE JUST MAYBE, HUH???
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Who's got the 3 Hawgs? You are going to be MIA next year, right?
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Old 10-29-2012, 05:23 PM
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Default RE: Cincinnati Jet Club F-18's project

You might have me with that last picture if they were actually F18s and not F15s. You will always be a closet F15 driver
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My choice for a color sheme...
What could have been...
What I hope it doesn't become.

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I'm also considering the lower vis. scheme for the Vigilantes....
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Default RE: Cincinnati Jet Club F-18's project

You guy's may want to have a look at this thread for scaling ideas . The site is in Hebrew, put the photos speak for themselve. The scroll bar will be on the left side of your screen.

http://www.efly.co.il/forums/showthr...ELLOW-AIRCRAFT

Will any of these get the Paul Reese (aka SDCrashmaster) scaled out gear ?
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Old 10-29-2012, 05:57 PM
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Love the detail on the gear!! I would like to find a place, that sells the nomenclature for landing gear.

I like the site.... great pictures, but take a couple minutes to figure out how to navigate it.

Another option..... not sure its worth the extra work or not.
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Hi Joe,

This is the paint scheme that I want to put on my YA F-18, maybe after the Panthers I will resurrect the F-18. Now I know where I can get help from.
Good Luck with the builds!
John
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Sweet!!...

Roger, sorry not scale, but here is my R66 ride next yr.... little wren powered bandit.. thanks to Jeffy and Timmy...awesome build.
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How about a retro 100yr Navy aviation anniversary paint scheme? There are some really cool old Corsair or Hellcat schemes that were done on certain CAG jets this year.

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Hey joe. Finish the hornets and bring em to Mississippi next year! Great paint scheme John for your hornet. I think that jet is on display now at MCAS Miramar in the "whales ******" as Ron Burgandy would call Sant' Diagoooh

Can't wait to see pix of the cockpits
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It would be a no brainer JoeW to get a couple more Hawgs for this Broadway expo. I will get back in time to participate in this life time experience if we can put it together. Actually I have always preferred to be on the sticks than a spectator. The devil made me do these CD/Organizer things.....

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We all thought the nose wheel steering needed something better than a pull-pull cable system.

Therefore, I designed a direct drive setup that has no play between the nose strut tiller arm and the servo arm.

Joe D.
Wow, nice setup Joe. I also hate pull-pull steering and your direct drive looks bullet proof.

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The powerplants.....

Joe Dirr- Behotec 180 Gold 43lbs of thrust
Joe Westrich- Jetcat 200SX 52lbs of thrust
Mike Molnar- Jetcat 180(older style) 45lbs of thrust (poss upgrade to a 200SX)

My little girl inspecting the new 200SX
Wow! Wheres mine?
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We all thought the nose wheel steering needed something better than a pull-pull cable system.

Therefore, I designed a direct drive setup that has no play between the nose strut tiller arm and the servo arm.

Joe D.
Wow, nice setup Joe. I also hate pull-pull steering and your direct drive looks bullet proof.

Craig
Yep, Dirr is great at engineering a better way of doing stuff. Mike and I said this pull-pull thing has to go and Joe came up with this within a couple days. I would have never thought to do it that way, but it works great!
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The powerplants.....

Joe Dirr- Behotec 180 Gold 43lbs of thrust
Joe Westrich- Jetcat 200SX 52lbs of thrust
Mike Molnar- Jetcat 180(older style) 45lbs of thrust (poss upgrade to a 200SX)

My little girl inspecting the new 200SX
Wow! Wheres mine?
All turbines have been run on Joe D's new test stand and closely meet their specs.

The Behotec pushed 42+lbs
The 200SX pushed 51+lbs
The 180 actually pushed 46+lbs (an under rated turbine!)
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