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Old 07-11-2013, 07:41 PM
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In the Hawker Hunter thread I posted the photo below showing how a little extra weathering brings out the detail when I was asked to share the techniques I use for weathering. Instead of going off topic in the Hunter thread, I started this thread.The techniques I will show are just one way weathering can be applied. I recommend experimenting to find a technique that works for you. So here we go ...Kirk
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:45 PM
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I use dry pigment form here: http://www.danielsmith.com/I mix a light grey and a dark grey using Carbon Black and Titanium White. The pigment is applied to the airframe using paper towels and the applicator shown in the 1st photo.



The second photo shows the look of the "out-of-the-box" wing.



A paper towel is used to smear the light grey over the surface. Some pressure is used when smearing the powder on the surface. (3rd photo)



Next, I spray a mist of Windex over the surface and use a paper towel to wipe the powder off of the surface using a circular motion. When completed, this simulates the fading and oxidation of paint. (4th photo)



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for an EDF goober it looks good

I like the dry pigments Kirk, have used various ones
in the past as well
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The next step is to simulate the dirt, grease, etc. To do this I apply the dark grey using the applicator to the panel lines, rivets, hatch covers, etc. (1st photo).

After the dark grey has been applied, I once again spray a mist of Windex on the surface and use a paper towel wipe off the dry pigment in the direction of flow. For a wing direction of flow is from leading edge to trailing edge. For a fuse, it's top to bottom. I'll show this when I weather the fuse.



The 2nd photo shows the finished results. One thing about using dry pigment is once it gets wet it turns to paint. It would be similar to using a wash with an air brush but you get better control of where it goes on the airframe.



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Great thread!!! Will be following this so I can use on my next project.
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Great information Kirk, thank you.
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Kirk,

Thanks very much for sharing your technique. Most difficult part for me is to get hold of the dry paint pigments. Will have to check if they sell overseas.

Can't wait to see the rest of your model being weathered.

Thanks again,
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I finally had time to finish weathering the fuse and put on the markings. The fuse was weathered using the same techniques as the wing. These photos were taken at Best in the West by Ken Simmons.

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Looks great Kirk..... I can't remember do you do this one electric? or turbine?
how is it flying for you?
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Great info Kirk ,thanks!
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Thanks guys.

Hey Ron, it's been a while. Hope all is well on your end. Last year the Hunter flew with a Schubeler DS-94 with 29 pounds of thrust. This year it flew with a Kingtech K-140G. The Hunter is one of the best flying planes I've ever owned. It is very graceful, flies like a pattern plane, and lands like a trainer. The wide gear stance is great for ground handling.

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Kirk, your model looks like ****. <-----that was a compliment, good job!
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Kirk, your model looks like ****. <-----that was a compliment, good job!
Thanks David. Best compliment a scale model could get

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Looks great Kirk!
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Thanks Kris.
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OK finally started my weathering... Is this too much or not enough? or just right?

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Looks about right to me Frank. Just went to an airshow this last weekend and again I was surprised how dirty they are. I am very bad about making sure the aircraft I work on are clean. But the military are only clean when they are first painted
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Looks good Frank. How do you like using the technique?

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Dear Kirk,

one question about this technique, is it fuelproof or does it need a clearcoat?

I'll be weathering my SM F-14, but never done this before....

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Looks good Frank. How do you like using the technique?

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Not a bad technique... just one question.. when you start the wipe, you go thru about 1 roll of paper towels per wing panel? I didn't know if I was putting on too much dry powder or not? I did half of my fuse last night when thru a whole roll as well. The only other problem I had is FEJ didn't make some of the panel lines deep enough or they over over sprayed the paint. Still coming out very nice... thanks!
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Kirk

I wanted to try your method and went to the web site you recommended. I could not find the Titanium White, only zinc white. Will that work okay?

Thanks.

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one question about this technique, is it fuelproof or does it need a clearcoat?

I'll be weathering my SM F-14, but never done this before....

Wim
Hi Wim. I'm not sure if it is fuel proof. The planes I've weathered in this manner or either electric or turbine and I haven't spilled any kero on my airframes. I'll give it a test and let you know.

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Not a bad technique... just one question.. when you start the wipe, you go thru about 1 roll of paper towels per wing panel? I didn't know if I was putting on too much dry powder or not? I did half of my fuse last night when thru a whole roll as well. The only other problem I had is FEJ didn't make some of the panel lines deep enough or they over over sprayed the paint. Still coming out very nice... thanks!
I take four sheets and fold them in half a couple of times until they are about a 4 inch square. As the side I'm wiping with get too dirty, I refold. I do this until it's too dirty to use or it falls apart. I'll use about a roll per airframe.
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I wanted to try your method and went to the web site you recommended. I could not find the Titanium White, only zinc white. Will that work okay?

Thanks.

Hal
Hi Hal. I'm sure the zinc white will be ok. The white is mixed with the black to get various shades of grey so as long as it is a white it should work. I'm using titanium white because it was the only white on the shelf when I bought the paint pigment.
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Hi Hal. I'm sure the zinc white will be ok. The white is mixed with the black to get various shades of grey so as long as it is a white it should work. I'm using titanium white because it was the only white on the shelf when I bought the paint pigment.
Same thing when I went to order.. I ended up calling them and they do have it, some reason it is not on the website. I just ordered mine last week.
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