Henke Torphammar

That's how I use it today. I would like a fuel gauge telling 0-100% instead of mAh. I assume the Mflow works in that way, but it's too bulky for me compared to the MUI30

ddennison

My Feedback: (15)

When setting the Jetcat ECU and failsafe, how far do you drag the position of the throttle servo channel beyond low trim, low throttle to activate the failsafe - 10ms?100ms?

LA jetguy

Dave.. I set the throttle servo max positive to 50 and max negative to -50... Then set throttle failsafe to -125. Once you disable RF transmittion under "Wireless modes" you should see the 'failsafe' sign on your GSU...

Hope that helps...

David

Walo

I use the built in failsafe function of the Jetcat ECU. The throttle channel of my Receiver is set to "Out/Off". The ECU will go into failsafe mode either with a Receiver or a Transmitter failure.
Important when you use a CB200 with satellites: Disable failsave of the satellites, only enable failsave in the CB200.

Regards, Walter

Jeti USA

http://www.espritmodel.com/jeti-elec...y-dsm-esc.aspx


The DSM ESC from Jeti is dual input redundant electronic switch designed to operate with included magnetic key. The advantage of an electronic switch is that it offers a virtual unlimited ON/OFF cycles, unlike mechanically operated switches.

The redundant DSM ESC switch automatically monitors and switches between two power supplies (Two Rx Batteries, Rx Battery & ESC or Two ESCs) keeping your system operational. In a case of using two ESCs the throttle signal from the receiver is supplied to both controllers simultaneously.

Final solution in redundancy and reliability from Jeti is here. The DSM ESC is designed for two independent 5-13V inputs (Battery & ESC or 2x ESCs) and supports up to 10A continuous current or 20A burst current for your connected devices. This unit is most suitable for today's high-voltage servos, which you might be operating directly from a two-cell LiFe battery or similar Li-Poly battery pack. Please note that DSM ESC does not include a regulator, output voltage is equal to input voltage.


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Colin Allen

Has anyone successfully used a Powerbox iGyro connected to a Jeti receiver via an EX Expander?

If I plug the iGyro into the EXT port of the receiver it works perfectly. To use telemetry as well I need to use an EX Expander, however when I plug the iGyro into the EX Expander it is not recognised at all (The Jetibox entry for that port on the EX Expander just shows as blank). I've got the latest firmware in everything, including the iGyro.

Help!!

mort78

My Feedback: (1)

Hi Colin,
I haven't tried with an IGyro. Your best bet is to go to the Powerbox Systems Forums.
Richard there is extremely fast in sorting any powerbox related issues. Good luck
Kind regards,
Morten

Colin Allen

Thanks Morten... I had also emailed Richard for his opinion, so I'll see what he comes back with. Interestingly, the iGyro will ONLY work in EX mode to a Jeti receiver (even though it has a menu option of selecting PPM... I haven't tested UDI). I have also tested it with a Powerbox Royal SRS, which ONLY offers PPM interface, and it works perfectly with that. No EX Expander necessary then as the ECU telemetry can then plug into the EXT port.

Cheers,
Colin

HarryC

My Feedback: (1)

Despite their EX label, the E4 expander is not EX Bus. In fact almost all the sensors labelled EX are not EX Bus at all. If it turns up in device explorer it is EX bus, if it doesn't then it isn't! Look in the devices folder to see what device explorer will recognise, hardly anything. All other devices are EX compatible but they aren't EX Bus. So the bus is blocked by the E4 expander. If you plug in a genuine bus device like MBAR to the rx it shows in device explorer but if you plug it in via an expander it disappears from explorer because the expander can't handle the bus.

wfield0455

My Feedback: (7)

Another option would be to use 2 receivers configured for dual path. The primary receiver would connect to the iGyro, the secondary receiver would connect to the primary via PPM and it's Ext port would be free to connect telemetry. The secondary receiver could simply be an R3 or Rsat2 depending on where you're located.


Wayne

Dansy

My Feedback: (53)

Or used an Mbar since its ex-bus and has 2 expansions EX ports......

bluelevel

My Feedback: (39)

Colin,

you are right, the Jeti expanders don't work (most likely also not the built-in one in the Mbar), but if you set the SAT output port of your receiver to UDI protocol, you free up the EXT port and can connect your telemetry there.

Thomas

Colin Allen

Thanks for all the inputs guys.

Harry... that explains everything. Not sure why they label it "EX Expander" - it's not what it does from my perhaps simplistic reading of the product name and description. Richard (from Powerbox) confirmed forget about the Expander and use an extra RSat2 for telemetry.

Dancy... thanks for the suggestion, although what Thomas has said would likely mean it wouldn't work either. I haven't tried an Mbar before, but will check it out eventually (I'm brand new to Jeti).

Wayne... that is exactly the conclusion I came to in the end. I set it up last night and it works well. Not good where you want to use dual path for full receiver redundancy though, but on this particular model I have a single R9 doing all the gear, brakes, flaps etc, with EX into the iGyro which handles ail/elev/rudder. Then a seperate RSat2 for ECU telemetry via its EX port.

Thomas... UDI is only 12 ports, which is generally not enough for my jets. Richard from Powerbox told me Jeti are about to release 16ch UDI, which would solve everything for iGyros.

Quite a learning curve going from Futaba (18MZ) to Jeti, but definitely worth it. Very impressed so far.

Cheers,
Colin

rcpete347

My Feedback: (251)

HI all, several questions already.
1:where do you register the DS16 for updates, the link in the manual is for DS14, no option to apply DS16
2: binding is not clear on 2 receivers, do you bind both at the same time
3: I get no servo movement, device shows 1 receiver
everything else looks prity straight forward
Rcpete

FSki

Is the link in the manual for the upgrades for the DS14 for which you can buy upgrades, i.e. increase the number of channels from 8 to 14 etc etc.. The latest firmware for the DS16 (which comes fully featured) is on Jeti's website, pretty much like Multiplex you don't have to register for updates just download them.

wfield0455

My Feedback: (7)

No need to register the DS16 for updates, simply download them from either the Esprit site or directly from Jeti. Since the DS16 already has all the features fully activated there is no need to license any of the individual features like the DS14 does if you want more channels, etc.

When binding for dual path you DO NOT want to bind them at the same time.
1) Power up the transmitter and go to Advanced, Wireless/Trainer and select dual path.
2) Install a bind plug into the primary receiver. There should be no other connections to the primary receiver at this time.
3) Attach a battery to any port of the primary receiver and then select Pair primary receiver to tx from the Wireless/Trainer menu. Once the primary receiver is bound, remove the bind plug and disconnect the battery, in that order.

Leaving the primary receiver disconnected and powered off, repeat steps 2 and 3 for the secondary receiver, substituting "secondary" for "primary" where needed.

Both receivers should now be bound, connect them in their desired configuration and power them both up. Use Device Explorer to set the options for each receiver. If you are connecting all of your servos to the primary receiver and connecting the secondary receiver to the primary via a PPM link, etc, make sure you have fail-safe in the secondary receiver "DISABLED".

That's the basics. If you have any questions about specific receiver configs, etc, let us know..

Hope this helps.
Wayne

gooseF22

Hey Pete, good to see you at toledo.. welcome to the family.. the learning curve is fast, you will get it.. For experienced users like yourself, it is just really figuring out what menu to use to get what you want..

Remember the throws are full vs the JR, so in general, 80% throw on the Jeti = 100% on the JR/Spek/Fut, and you may need to add just a bit of expo to get the same feel because the stick is more sensitive around the mid point.. I recommend 10-15% more expo on the initial flights. I also recommend people lengthen the sticks at first until they find the magic combo for themselves.. I didn't think that would help me, but I ended up changing my entire setup over time..

The last thing is you can rotate the angle of each stick pot inside the radio. I didn't think I would like it but I did.. I have about 5 degree angle in each stick, and it makes the radio comfortable..

As far as switches on the DS16.. several turbine guys stopped by at Toledo.. good to see you all.. the question I got the most is what cutoff / kill setup do I use?
on my radio, I removed the top left (Sa) switch, and placed a locking switch there. Since I flew JR, I also swapped the long two position and three position switches, so that the "flap switch", and "aux2" switches were the same as the DX18.. I thought the transition would be easier.. I also swapped the trim banks to a cross trim setup, and finally I use the throttle trim to trim the Nose Wheel instead of the throttle.. I find the throttle trim too hard to find quickly. I use the Sb switch for auto trim, but could also use the spring loaded switch on the right. for the Kill Gyro function, I use the "aux 2" switch (Se) It has a -100% gyro to gyro mix.. it's set up to zero out the cortex. finally, for me, I use a High rate and Low rate function for nose wheel steering.. Its on the spring loaded switch on the top right.. IT requires two mixes, but high is for taxi, and defaults to low for takeoff.. If you de couple the nose wheel trim from the rudder trim, you can trim the rudder without affecting the nose wheel, but it still works on the stick.. Its the coolest system..

My setup: for turbines, glow, electric, everything.. the Locking switch engages the throttle kill function.. It will kill or lockout every model's power system. I found it very easy to find in the heat of the battle, but very safe since it locks. so with the switch down, I get the "throttle off" position on the GSU. Up gives me "Idle" Each turbine will require some tweaking for what values to use, and that info is back in this thread.. If someone wants to use the TURBINE ECU failsafe as well, you will have to use a larger value on the RX failsafe.. it takes a little experimenting to get it. The neat part is using the servo monitor page 2 you can see the actual values.. Jim, David, and I experimented with most of the turbines last year, so the info is buried in here in this thread.. Once you get a model the way you want it, copy it to another backup, and you will probably use it over and over as a starting point.

rcpete347

My Feedback: (251)

HI all, still trying to set up the receivers/cb200, I think I have done everything correct, but in Device explorer, when I high lite the second R3, it says ( minimum version is 3.30 ), does that mean , these new receivers need to be updated, can I just switch it out and hope , one of the other 2 R3's I have, are updated. I think you have to buy a cord for the updates, which I am told are not in stock.
Rcpete
Also is their a video to show how to update, is their a link.

rcpete347

My Feedback: (251)

HI, some pics
first pic, no battery to cb200, 2nd pic, i pluged a battery to a servo port.
third pic is primary R3
fourth and fifth, are secondary receiver
I still do not get any servo movement.
Rcpete

luv2flyrc

My Feedback: (6)

Hi Pete,

Edited Pete, I though maybe your receivers weren't output to EX bus but, I can see in pic 5 that they are.

Mike

Jeti USA

You need to update R3/RSW software, you need to see the name of the receiver in the Device Explorer No bunch of numbers.

Also check how to make screen shoots, no need to take photos of the screen. Simply flip the switch and system will create instant screenshot that you can download from the radio.

Zb/Jeti USA

rcpete347

My Feedback: (251)

Why would you sell out dated software to a newbe.
Rcpete

Jeti USA

Did you connect CB200 to the R3s via EXT ports to SAT 1 and SAT 2?
Also try logging onto the CB200, you should be able to see telemetry and pin assignment.

Here is video how to setup the CB200
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7_YU3ePL-I

Zb

gooseF22

for the CB200, you must put power into one of big multiplex ports for it to work properly, or it won't talk to the servos correctly.. Once you get the receivers updated, set the CB200 to accept the ex in.. you are almost there pete..

Make sure the failsafe is off on the receivers, and on in the CB200.. keep tinkering with it, you will get it.. it takes a little learning at first..

gooseF22

Yes Pete, there is a little USB dongle that you do updates with.. You should be able to get it working with the old software, but will need to update before flying and reset the failsafes.. Lets see if ZB has one in stock.. If he doesn't, check with Todd.