Its Coming!!!! Skymaster 1/5 F-16 Arf Plus Pro
12-10-2014, 07:14 AM
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the 20kg thrust for the F-16 1/5 without the ordinance is perfect, but i think the P-300 with the full ordinance should be much better, i will ask Likai install the all ordinance in his F-16 1/5 to test fly again soon,
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12-10-2014, 06:22 PM
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What exactly do you base this on? She's not a small bird and extra weight isn't going to hurt it like it would with something that has much less wing area. Heck she can already high alpha at 40kph so I think I can land her a bit hotter without worrying about wingloading. I think we need to wait for Anton to test this bird with a P300 or equivalent and let him be the judge. With a 200 I find the bird to be beautiful but appears slow.
Also remember that at 22kg (48 pounds) DRY without the speed break, working canopy or pilot installed (which will add more weight), a K210 will fly the bird but will be marginal at 46 pounds thrust. This isn't the wet weight either so the fuel adds on top of that total as well. It ends up this bird is nowhere near 1 to 1 ratio for flight which is what I prefer.
Personally there is no way I would want to fly this bird on anything less than a big beefy turbine. Especially with weapons onboard.
Also remember that at 22kg (48 pounds) DRY without the speed break, working canopy or pilot installed (which will add more weight), a K210 will fly the bird but will be marginal at 46 pounds thrust. This isn't the wet weight either so the fuel adds on top of that total as well. It ends up this bird is nowhere near 1 to 1 ratio for flight which is what I prefer.
Personally there is no way I would want to fly this bird on anything less than a big beefy turbine. Especially with weapons onboard.
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12-10-2014, 06:47 PM
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Just basing it off 2 other 1/5th scale f16 ive owned. no useful data I suppose. oh and the fact he hasn't gone over 200mph yet. Oh and not to mention going over 55 lbs wet requires a lot of other requirements over here.
A K210 will never be marginal on this jet. Will be perfect. Behotec 220 nice as well. Still needs to be tested at 250mph and the K210 will do that easy.
Scott
A K210 will never be marginal on this jet. Will be perfect. Behotec 220 nice as well. Still needs to be tested at 250mph and the K210 will do that easy.
Scott
12-10-2014, 06:51 PM
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Not every country has the same size and weight restrictions that the US has. In that regard we are very lucky (for now). And yes I do agree it needs testing as I said in my above post. If a K210 will do 250MPH I would be happy for sure but I tend to aim for 1 to 1 on Fighter Jets. It's just my personal preference. But I won't be doing that at all unless Anton gives the green light that it's safe.
12-10-2014, 07:15 PM
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I will send the full ordinance set to Likai this week and ask him install to his F-16 1/5 then I will back Taiwan test fly it by K210 again soon, let's see it fly with full ordinance by K210 first,
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12-13-2014, 01:35 AM
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good news, the F-16 1/5 new record 320km/h (200mph) by K210 , on last Sunday .
after the Hundred of flight tests on 1:5 F-16. Today when Likai continue to test flying, but the aluminum monut on slat servo has crack, fortunately, we made locating pin,
although slat servo on one side fall off, F-16 finished flight and land safely under control. Later we check the reason and found normal tranditional servo monut can not work long enough and strong enough to fit the completely new slat design by likai.
Though it can be flied more than hunderd flights,the alumium servo mount still fail after these times of test.
We fortunately found this issue and surely will change to 7075 aluminum material before delivery kits to customers
after the Hundred of flight tests on 1:5 F-16. Today when Likai continue to test flying, but the aluminum monut on slat servo has crack, fortunately, we made locating pin,
although slat servo on one side fall off, F-16 finished flight and land safely under control. Later we check the reason and found normal tranditional servo monut can not work long enough and strong enough to fit the completely new slat design by likai.
Though it can be flied more than hunderd flights,the alumium servo mount still fail after these times of test.
We fortunately found this issue and surely will change to 7075 aluminum material before delivery kits to customers
12-13-2014, 03:43 AM
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Another reason why Skymaster is a top notch company, test flight after test flight after test flight. I'm sure the find was because of the number of test flights and not just one 200mph flight. Excellent job Anton and Likai!
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12-13-2014, 04:17 PM
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good news, the F-16 1/5 new record 320km/h (200mph) by K210 , on last Sunday .
after the Hundred of flight tests on 1:5 F-16. Today when Likai continue to test flying, but the aluminum monut on slat servo has crack, fortunately, we made locating pin,
although slat servo on one side fall off, F-16 finished flight and land safely under control. Later we check the reason and found normal tranditional servo monut can not work long enough and strong enough to fit the completely new slat design by likai.
Though it can be flied more than hunderd flights,the alumium servo mount still fail after these times of test.
We fortunately found this issue and surely will change to 7075 aluminum material before delivery kits to customers
after the Hundred of flight tests on 1:5 F-16. Today when Likai continue to test flying, but the aluminum monut on slat servo has crack, fortunately, we made locating pin,
although slat servo on one side fall off, F-16 finished flight and land safely under control. Later we check the reason and found normal tranditional servo monut can not work long enough and strong enough to fit the completely new slat design by likai.
Though it can be flied more than hunderd flights,the alumium servo mount still fail after these times of test.
We fortunately found this issue and surely will change to 7075 aluminum material before delivery kits to customers
12-13-2014, 05:21 PM
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12-13-2014, 05:29 PM
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only slat servos mount need change it, because the designed of slat is Different Direction with all servo linkage,
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12-13-2014, 05:34 PM
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12-15-2014, 01:38 PM
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Anton,
Glad to see you found the problem. Quick question on adding a stronger servo mount material. If the force generated by the leading edge slat was enough to break the mount by replacing that with stronger material will that transfer enough load to the servo to cause the gears to strip? Is there a deeper problem happening here? the extra speed that likai was flying, the trajectory of the linkage? look forward to your thoughts.
Glad to see you found the problem. Quick question on adding a stronger servo mount material. If the force generated by the leading edge slat was enough to break the mount by replacing that with stronger material will that transfer enough load to the servo to cause the gears to strip? Is there a deeper problem happening here? the extra speed that likai was flying, the trajectory of the linkage? look forward to your thoughts.
12-15-2014, 02:17 PM
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