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Old 11-21-2013, 12:48 PM
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I've been having a think about possible options for airframes for my Wren 54 once my Boomerang Nano wears out. Can anyone think of any conventional sports models that would suit these smaller turbines?

I had considered trying a Bandit ARF but if I'm spending that much money then I'd be looking at a bigger turbine. I know it's not a sport model but I might have also considered the BVM T-33 if it wasn't so expensive.

The Nano is great but I wouldn't be looking at another twin boom model for a while, so that rules out the Xcalibur. I know there are a few suitable deltas such as the Mick Reeves Reaper and the Avonds Rafale, but are there any 'traditional' sports models (like a mini version of the Flash) for 13/14lb engines?
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Its called a Graupner Inspiration, Trevor loves his with a P-60. Must be one out there unbuilt or emac, sold enough.
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Electra with a 60 size turbine is a great combo. BVM sells it as a turbine kit if you request it (not on their site I think)
I have not flown one on a turbine, but people that have give it rave reviews
I have lots of flights on the e version. Amazing airplane.

Another option if you prefer scale is the 60" sabre. Another great flier

Hope this helps

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Look at the 83% Turbinator from Laser Design Services if you want a sport jet and are willing to build. It says it is for a Wren 44 but I have one and it would be better suited for a Wren 54 or P-60. It is almost the same size as the Nano. Try this link.

http://store.laser-design-services.c...products_id=50
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The BVM bandit ARF is also great on the little P60. you can bump them to 14 lbs. thrust without sending them in to Jetcat (done thru the GSU). had one and flew it for years. Light and fun.
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I love the BVM jets but they are big $$$$ (and possibly OTT for my old Wren 54 Mk3). The Electra turbine has disappeared from the BVM website so had assumed that it had been discontinued. Again though, it was very expensive and if was going that route I'd probably go for the Bandit. I have had a couple of BVM jets (Bobcat and currently building Mig 15 from an old kit) and they are great but you're looking at approx $5000 for a go-fly Electra and $6000 for a T-33 kit (+tax and shipping) which is bananas.

I've seen the Inspiration fly and I'm not a huge fan although that may be just because it looks a bit like my old Spark, which wasn't my favourite model.

I'm surprised that hardly anyone makes a more 'budget' model for these smaller engines. I had high hopes for the JoaoMatos EXM Mini but this didn't turn out the way I'd hoped. The Reaction 54 is another option but it leans a bit too much on the 'trainer' side rather than pure sport.

We have had lots of twin booms such as Boomerang Nano, Boomerang Exige/Tazor, Xcalibur, Tornado/Kestrel/Falcon, IAD Serpent etc; several deltas such as Reaper, Grumania Eurofighter, Avonds Rafale; quite a few scale models such a F-16s, F-86, F-80/T-33 but very little in the way of conventional sports models.

The nearest thing might be a X-tremejets Viperjet but I haven't seen any build/flying reports on that with a 54 size turbine and I promised myself that I wouldn't be a guinea pig any more .

Maybe I'll just wear my Nano out a bit more and see if anything else comes along .
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I'm hoping the new Shane Harding Razor 90 will make a good conversion to turbine. Just can't seem to find any info on it. Got the turbinator plans, but it think I might build an 83% version as it will suit my Wren 54 better.

There is a massive gap in the market for affordable sport jets.
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Originally Posted by Si_B
I'm hoping the new Shane Harding Razor 90 will make a good conversion to turbine. Just can't seem to find any info on it. Got the turbinator plans, but it think I might build an 83% version as it will suit my Wren 54 better.

There is a massive gap in the market for affordable sport jets.
There is a mention of the Razor 90t in the latest copy of RCJI apparently it is available from the Traplet shop in I guess plan pack form .
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Originally Posted by jetster81
There is a mention of the Razor 90t in the latest copy of RCJI apparently it is available from the Traplet shop in I guess plan pack form .

Jamie Cuff is selling a new in box Maverick kit at present. I fly one with a Wren gold, It's a beauty, Ron
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There is a mention of the Razor 90t in the latest copy of RCJI apparently it is available from the Traplet shop in I guess plan pack form .
Had a look on their site, but can't find anything?
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What about the Sting EVO from PAF Modellbau
http://shop.strato.de/epages/6131678...STING%20evo%22

That is a nice sports jet, and it is not expensive..
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Originally Posted by oesterling
What about the Sting EVO from PAF Modellbau
http://shop.strato.de/epages/6131678...STING%20evo%22

That is a nice sports jet, and it is not expensive..
That looks very good indeed I wonder if anyone has any experience of one. Also is it a kit or ARTF ?
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It is a kit, but very easy to built, a frind of mine has it as his winter projekt. going to fly with a jetcat P60.

here is a link to the german built tread..http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showt...ng-Evo-von-PAF


and a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DDJm9e_hsk

regards Jan
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Originally Posted by Si_B
Had a look on their site, but can't find anything?
Send them a mail as I have just double checked on RCJI and they are definitely saying it is there,maybe not got on the site yet.
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Originally Posted by Jetflyer3000
That looks very good indeed I wonder if anyone has any experience of one. Also is it a kit or ARTF ?
I had a Jetco XL from them and it is a VERY basic kit and took a lot of hard work to get it together. virtually nothing in the way of instructions, and they were in German and had to do a lot by trial and error, worked out expensive in the end.
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The AVG Dynamo looks like it may be an option.
Old 11-22-2013, 05:50 AM
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If you can get your hands on a Cermark or a Tamjets F-16 Mk1 (no gear doors), you'd be in for lots of fun. Flew mine on an old Simjet 1200 and it rocked!
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Jtm xxx?
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I just picked up a Cermark F-16 with a P-60, and it really is a nice jet. I think Hobby King is marketing these , as Cermark does not anymore. I know Curtis, at Easy Tiger has a complete airframe for sale.....he was going to develope the kit for his business, but did not move forward on it. He wants to sell it....these jets fly great, and the P-60 is perfect, somI think the Wren would work well.
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JTM ViperJet L (http://www.rc-jets.eu/index.php?rout...product_id=137)

or Pirotti Tuono Easy (http://www.rc-jets.eu/index.php?rout...product_id=154)
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Hello:

I think EXM mini from Joao Matos RC is a excellent option for your turbine.
It's a cheap model and is a great flyer.
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The eScorpion is a perfect candidate for the P-60.
I am building one right now.



http://www.ultimate-jets.net/collect.../escorpion-mk2
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Thanks for the suggestions guys; it looks like there might be some good models out there that I hadn't considered.

I wouldn't touch a EXM Mini with a barge pole but I've said enough about that on the EXM Mini thread so no need for me to bash it again here!

I do have a Cermark F-16 about 95% ready to fly but it currently has a Wren Supersport sitting in it. I could do some swapping around of engines if need be to free up the Supersport for something else instead.


The 2 listed so far that appeal to me are the Tuono Easy and the e-Scorpion. I would be grateful for any info that people might have on either of these, when fitted with turbines.

Oli, are you going to do a build thread on the e-Scorpion? I did see that some info was posted before. I was actually looking at this model last week but thought it might be better suited to Wren 44 than Wren 54 or P-60 (not least because the Aviation Design fuel tank looks quite small). It be very interested to hear how you get on with the P-60.

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Old 11-22-2013, 10:43 AM
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LOL a Cermark F-16 with a Wren SS? This I have to see!! Buddy that will be one fast little f_cker!
Old 11-22-2013, 12:16 PM
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JTM XXX is quite nice and price is right too, almost the same as the electra:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-j...onversion.html


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