BVM Sport Shark
12-19-2013, 08:23 PM
#26
Roger that is very cool, I feel silly now selling my 91s and 96s. I cant remember the last time I heard a DF fire up at a meet, I am sure someone is going to bring one back.
I am with you, that kit, in original packaging, with the original collateral (plans, manuals, inserts) is worth more as a museum piece, maybe sell it to BV himself!
If it was finished up it would be awesome with the original B&D retracts and a KBV 72. So LIGHT I bet it could be made at right around 10 pounds, I can't imagine the electric would be this light.
In the days when this plane showed up the king of the hill was the Byron F-16. The Sport Shark came out and was 50 mph faster...it was really a sea change. The fully integrated inlets, the BVM fan, the KBV motor, it was all fully engineered. So nice. I used to have a BV promotional video of those first sport planes, they were awesome.
I am with you, that kit, in original packaging, with the original collateral (plans, manuals, inserts) is worth more as a museum piece, maybe sell it to BV himself!
If it was finished up it would be awesome with the original B&D retracts and a KBV 72. So LIGHT I bet it could be made at right around 10 pounds, I can't imagine the electric would be this light.
In the days when this plane showed up the king of the hill was the Byron F-16. The Sport Shark came out and was 50 mph faster...it was really a sea change. The fully integrated inlets, the BVM fan, the KBV motor, it was all fully engineered. So nice. I used to have a BV promotional video of those first sport planes, they were awesome.
12-19-2013, 09:31 PM
#27
Yes Matt I know what you mean.. I got rid of all my DF gear many years ago. And now I want to build one just for nostalgia sake !!! I really don’t want to go EDF. I want the experience and sound of a 91 R coming down hill at full song. Nothing sounds like that!
At the risk of turning this into a nostalgia thread.. I have a friend who owns these two BVM models, (Viper and F86) which are both 91R powered. They get flown less than once a year nowadays, however the Viper especially really turns heads. People are always shocked to see just how well they perform.
BTW. Both these models are under 12 lbs.
Roger
At the risk of turning this into a nostalgia thread.. I have a friend who owns these two BVM models, (Viper and F86) which are both 91R powered. They get flown less than once a year nowadays, however the Viper especially really turns heads. People are always shocked to see just how well they perform.
BTW. Both these models are under 12 lbs.
Roger
12-21-2013, 09:43 AM
#28
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (1)
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Posts: 3,759
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
OK, I forgot I put that copy of the "Inlet" under the gear in that picture. I have 2 different copies of the inlet that came with the Shark. I will scan them and try to put them up for you all. BUT as of now RCU still wont let my post a pic.
12-22-2013, 06:18 AM
#29
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Somerset, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 1,343
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
Have been watching this thread with interest, i have an Aggressor II and Maverick kit waiting to be built. Would love to have a full house BVM ducted fan like the Viper, they are fast even by todays standards, speaks volumes for the original designs and the development of the BVM fan/engine combinations.
One thing i am unsure about, did the Sport Shark later become the Aggressor 1 or are they different models?
I have attached a scan of an article by Denny Rowlands, it was published in RCM&E in April 1990. I think Patty's Sport shark that is pictured may have been one of the early prototypes.
I think this is a video of model pictured, sounds fantastic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YSlq3RYXJY&index=17&list=PLF714A39428C550C5
One thing i am unsure about, did the Sport Shark later become the Aggressor 1 or are they different models?
I have attached a scan of an article by Denny Rowlands, it was published in RCM&E in April 1990. I think Patty's Sport shark that is pictured may have been one of the early prototypes.
I think this is a video of model pictured, sounds fantastic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YSlq3RYXJY&index=17&list=PLF714A39428C550C5
Last edited by Jamie C; 12-22-2013 at 06:46 AM.
12-22-2013, 03:32 PM
#30
My Feedback: (5)
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Holland Patent,
NY
Posts: 717
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Jamie,
The BVM Sport Shark was the earlier development model of the Agressor I. I purchased, built, and flew the Agressor I sometime in the mid 80's. The Agressor I can be identified by the MAGNABUILT wing and tail construction utilizing only tip and root ribs with the skins separated by multiple spanwise spars. The fuselage nose is also fattened like a beaver tail and special 9 oz saddle fuel cells were required. My Agg. I came out under 10 lbs with a glassed, epoxy painted and clear finish. The wing constuction did not tolerate any hard landings and BV then introduced the Aggressor II with foam cored wings and my full size plans were drawn and dated by David Ribbe in Sept. 1988. Sometime in the early 1990's, BVM introduced the Maverick, Maverick Pro, Agressor III and Ultra Viper all sharing the same fuselage but with different flying surfaces. These all featured foam core wing construction and the fuselage would accomodate the Sullivan 11 oz. Saddle Fuel Tanks. The weights were up to 12-14 lbs depending on the finish and gear. I built and flew a Maverick for many years which I modified to a Pro version. It was my best flying glow DF and powered by K&B 82, KBV 81 and Fan Jett 95 engines. These later BVM fan jets are excellent candidates for EVF power although some have sqeezed in some of the smaller turbines for equal or greater performance. In closing I have the Aggressor I and Maverick building manuals available for the printing costs and mailing charges. Kindly PM me if interested.
Rgds,
Art ARRO
The BVM Sport Shark was the earlier development model of the Agressor I. I purchased, built, and flew the Agressor I sometime in the mid 80's. The Agressor I can be identified by the MAGNABUILT wing and tail construction utilizing only tip and root ribs with the skins separated by multiple spanwise spars. The fuselage nose is also fattened like a beaver tail and special 9 oz saddle fuel cells were required. My Agg. I came out under 10 lbs with a glassed, epoxy painted and clear finish. The wing constuction did not tolerate any hard landings and BV then introduced the Aggressor II with foam cored wings and my full size plans were drawn and dated by David Ribbe in Sept. 1988. Sometime in the early 1990's, BVM introduced the Maverick, Maverick Pro, Agressor III and Ultra Viper all sharing the same fuselage but with different flying surfaces. These all featured foam core wing construction and the fuselage would accomodate the Sullivan 11 oz. Saddle Fuel Tanks. The weights were up to 12-14 lbs depending on the finish and gear. I built and flew a Maverick for many years which I modified to a Pro version. It was my best flying glow DF and powered by K&B 82, KBV 81 and Fan Jett 95 engines. These later BVM fan jets are excellent candidates for EVF power although some have sqeezed in some of the smaller turbines for equal or greater performance. In closing I have the Aggressor I and Maverick building manuals available for the printing costs and mailing charges. Kindly PM me if interested.
Rgds,
Art ARRO
12-22-2013, 03:57 PM
#31
Thanks Jamie and Art.. That fills in a few gaps.
The very fist real model jet I ever saw was an Aggressor II, which being absolutely wrung out at a mini air show, some time in the early ninety's. I had seen the likes of the BP Regal Eagels and Byron F16s before, but this model was several magnitudes higher in performance to any thing I had ever seen. It was that one display flight that started me into a life long hobby with jets, (along with a love of all things purple).
Roger
The very fist real model jet I ever saw was an Aggressor II, which being absolutely wrung out at a mini air show, some time in the early ninety's. I had seen the likes of the BP Regal Eagels and Byron F16s before, but this model was several magnitudes higher in performance to any thing I had ever seen. It was that one display flight that started me into a life long hobby with jets, (along with a love of all things purple).
Roger
01-06-2014, 06:03 PM
#32
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (1)
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Posts: 3,759
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Still trying to get the pictures uploaded................................
When I can get them to upload I will add the pictures of two copies the "Inlet" that I have.
01-14-2014, 09:47 AM
#34
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Venice, FL
Posts: 838
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Jamie,
The BVM Sport Shark was the earlier development model of the Agressor I. I purchased, built, and flew the Agressor I sometime in the mid 80's. The Agressor I can be identified by the MAGNABUILT wing and tail construction utilizing only tip and root ribs with the skins separated by multiple spanwise spars. The fuselage nose is also fattened like a beaver tail and special 9 oz saddle fuel cells were required. My Agg. I came out under 10 lbs with a glassed, epoxy painted and clear finish. The wing constuction did not tolerate any hard landings and BV then introduced the Aggressor II with foam cored wings and my full size plans were drawn and dated by David Ribbe in Sept. 1988. Sometime in the early 1990's, BVM introduced the Maverick, Maverick Pro, Agressor III and Ultra Viper all sharing the same fuselage but with different flying surfaces. These all featured foam core wing construction and the fuselage would accomodate the Sullivan 11 oz. Saddle Fuel Tanks. The weights were up to 12-14 lbs depending on the finish and gear. I built and flew a Maverick for many years which I modified to a Pro version. It was my best flying glow DF and powered by K&B 82, KBV 81 and Fan Jett 95 engines. These later BVM fan jets are excellent candidates for EVF power although some have sqeezed in some of the smaller turbines for equal or greater performance. In closing I have the Aggressor I and Maverick building manuals available for the printing costs and mailing charges. Kindly PM me if interested.
Rgds,
Art ARRO
The BVM Sport Shark was the earlier development model of the Agressor I. I purchased, built, and flew the Agressor I sometime in the mid 80's. The Agressor I can be identified by the MAGNABUILT wing and tail construction utilizing only tip and root ribs with the skins separated by multiple spanwise spars. The fuselage nose is also fattened like a beaver tail and special 9 oz saddle fuel cells were required. My Agg. I came out under 10 lbs with a glassed, epoxy painted and clear finish. The wing constuction did not tolerate any hard landings and BV then introduced the Aggressor II with foam cored wings and my full size plans were drawn and dated by David Ribbe in Sept. 1988. Sometime in the early 1990's, BVM introduced the Maverick, Maverick Pro, Agressor III and Ultra Viper all sharing the same fuselage but with different flying surfaces. These all featured foam core wing construction and the fuselage would accomodate the Sullivan 11 oz. Saddle Fuel Tanks. The weights were up to 12-14 lbs depending on the finish and gear. I built and flew a Maverick for many years which I modified to a Pro version. It was my best flying glow DF and powered by K&B 82, KBV 81 and Fan Jett 95 engines. These later BVM fan jets are excellent candidates for EVF power although some have sqeezed in some of the smaller turbines for equal or greater performance. In closing I have the Aggressor I and Maverick building manuals available for the printing costs and mailing charges. Kindly PM me if interested.
Rgds,
Art ARRO
Yes, Art is correct.... My first job at BVM was truing up (sanding the edges) of the wings when they came out of the 'mold'. (they were built-up in a mold shell). As I recall, Sport Shark, and Aggressor 1 used the same wing.... Viper used the foam core method.... (I helped finish the plans on that), as did Aggressor II, which I help with engineering and prototyping on.... The Red RCME cover shot was my first cover!.... fun memories from '88.
David
01-24-2014, 02:19 PM
#42
My Feedback: (5)
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Holland Patent,
NY
Posts: 717
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Terry,
Negative on the Toledo Expo this year, as I've applied for a judge position at the 2015 JWM and have to attending a judging seminar in Germany that same weekend. Regret missing the 60th edition of this RC Expo and I've attended more than half of them in the past-including several years as a 'Signals member. My Expo judging experience, in Mil. Sport Scale, was referenced on the application for a JWM Judge. Have a great time at the Expo and say "Hi" to all the jet jocks for me. Gonna miss it!
Rgds,
Art
Negative on the Toledo Expo this year, as I've applied for a judge position at the 2015 JWM and have to attending a judging seminar in Germany that same weekend. Regret missing the 60th edition of this RC Expo and I've attended more than half of them in the past-including several years as a 'Signals member. My Expo judging experience, in Mil. Sport Scale, was referenced on the application for a JWM Judge. Have a great time at the Expo and say "Hi" to all the jet jocks for me. Gonna miss it!
Rgds,
Art
01-25-2014, 02:06 PM
#44
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (1)
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Posts: 3,759
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
05-09-2014, 01:55 PM
#45
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Somerset, UNITED KINGDOM
Posts: 1,343
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
This video was given to me along with many others, had to do it in two parts due to the length.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WezbUhQEHlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o76T-BSjX2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WezbUhQEHlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o76T-BSjX2Y
05-09-2014, 04:32 PM
#48
Hey Roger, I helped Sparksy with an old semi scale hornet with a DF.
Really surprised me at how well it went.
John.
Really surprised me at how well it went.
John.
Last edited by Boomerang1; 05-09-2014 at 04:37 PM.
05-09-2014, 06:08 PM
#49
How awesome are these old videos!!
This video was given to me along with many others, had to do it in two parts due to the length.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WezbUhQEHlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o76T-BSjX2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WezbUhQEHlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o76T-BSjX2Y
