Ground Collision at BITW 2013
01-10-2014, 04:26 PM
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Sorry Disco, but you are 100% WRONG! We saved the WORLD from Hitler, AND from Tojo. 
We had some help, but the bottom line is that it would have been ALOT different had we not intervened and not only did we totally change the course of the war, we *rebuilt* both places before we left!
All we really want for all that blood sweat, and tears is fair trade and not to be called "ugly Americans." How can the world stand us??!?!?!
Bob
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We had some help, but the bottom line is that it would have been ALOT different had we not intervened and not only did we totally change the course of the war, we *rebuilt* both places before we left!
All we really want for all that blood sweat, and tears is fair trade and not to be called "ugly Americans." How can the world stand us??!?!?!
Bob
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01-10-2014, 04:38 PM
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Unfortunately, this incident clearly illustrates two things, and two things only:
1) NEVER talk to a f#&$ing lawyer
2) NEVER admit any possible fault to a f#&%ing lawyer...
Personally, I would do the minimum necessary to get this idiot and his f&#%ing lawyer off your back - even though you are not at fault. Clearly this f^#%ing lawyer is jones-ing for a fight and if he gets one, only he wins. F&#^ing lawyers...
Bob
1) NEVER talk to a f#&$ing lawyer
2) NEVER admit any possible fault to a f#&%ing lawyer...
Personally, I would do the minimum necessary to get this idiot and his f&#%ing lawyer off your back - even though you are not at fault. Clearly this f^#%ing lawyer is jones-ing for a fight and if he gets one, only he wins. F&#^ing lawyers...
Bob
01-10-2014, 05:36 PM
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Rick,
"We" are not acting like morons. The individual is,as is his friend,the attorney. When you say "we",you are not speaking for yourself. If their judgement and condescension was only directed at the individuals,not my country,I wouldn't be offended. I'm surprised you don't see that. They were cheap shots from behind a keyboard.
Erik
"We" are not acting like morons. The individual is,as is his friend,the attorney. When you say "we",you are not speaking for yourself. If their judgement and condescension was only directed at the individuals,not my country,I wouldn't be offended. I'm surprised you don't see that. They were cheap shots from behind a keyboard.
Erik
Sorry, this is severely off topic, we should stick to the issue.
01-10-2014, 05:36 PM
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Quite frankly in my view both of you need to grow up.
I know this is in the US where people seem to want to resort to the law at the drop of a hat but in my view this is simple. You simply don't go to litigation over this sort of thing there are far more important things in life and the world
Stop digging in Repair his wings, Give him the repaired wings and spar and have an end to this nonsense. This is a hobby
Also I know that you will end up regretting posting this on this forum
I know this is in the US where people seem to want to resort to the law at the drop of a hat but in my view this is simple. You simply don't go to litigation over this sort of thing there are far more important things in life and the world
Stop digging in Repair his wings, Give him the repaired wings and spar and have an end to this nonsense. This is a hobby
Also I know that you will end up regretting posting this on this forum
Both of them need to "grow up"? Did you not read that Barry was gracious enough to offer to fix the guy's wing after he knowingly taxied back on the centerline when another plane, low on fuel mind you, was landing? That kind of good nature does come from being "grown up".
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01-10-2014, 05:39 PM
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A guy walks into a bar, bellies up, and starts pounding shots of whiskey. After a while, the bartender says hey, buddy, you might want to slow down there. The guy says hell no, keep 'em coming, he just got divorced and his ex-wife's attorney cleaned him out. The guy says to the bartender, "Lawyers are just a bunch of f***ing a**holes!"
A drunk at the end of the bar says, "Hey, I resent that remark."
The guy says, "What, are you a lawyer?"
The drunk says, "No, I'm a f**king a**hole!"
A drunk at the end of the bar says, "Hey, I resent that remark."
The guy says, "What, are you a lawyer?"
The drunk says, "No, I'm a f**king a**hole!"
01-10-2014, 05:58 PM
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Rick,
I agree with you regarding the absurdity of the rampant,prolific epidemic of litigiousness in our society. I am also a devout patriot,and take offense to foreigners mocking my country. Certainly they all have their flaws,but you don't see me ridiculing them,or their way of life. Luckily,we have the freedom to express our own,differing opinions here. Bottom line,the foreign blowhards rub me the wrong way,and I called them on it. My prerogative. Stay well,
Erik
I agree with you regarding the absurdity of the rampant,prolific epidemic of litigiousness in our society. I am also a devout patriot,and take offense to foreigners mocking my country. Certainly they all have their flaws,but you don't see me ridiculing them,or their way of life. Luckily,we have the freedom to express our own,differing opinions here. Bottom line,the foreign blowhards rub me the wrong way,and I called them on it. My prerogative. Stay well,
Erik
01-10-2014, 06:01 PM
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I think many people that are regarding the "fix his wing 'cause you said you would" are missing a pretty big part. He agreed to fix his wing with the agreement that he would write a letter stating he (viperjet pilot) was partially at fault and how the incident could be avoided in the future.
It sounds like Barry has not received any letter from the viperjet pilot in regards to how the incident could be avoided and if that is the case, he isn't responsible to fix it upon the agreement the two had made.
It sounds like Barry has not received any letter from the viperjet pilot in regards to how the incident could be avoided and if that is the case, he isn't responsible to fix it upon the agreement the two had made.
01-10-2014, 06:23 PM
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The guy says, "What, are you a lawyer?"
IT CAN BE HARD KEEPING A STRAIGHT FACE AS A COURT REPORTER
These are from a book called Disorder in the American Courts, and are things people actually said in court, word for word, taken down and now published by court reporters who had the torment of staying calm while these exchanges were actually taking place.
ATTORNEY: What was the first thing your husband said to you that morning?
WITNESS: He said , 'Where am I, Cathy?'
ATTORNEY: And why did that upset you?
WITNESS: My name is Susan!
ATTORNEY: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: And in what ways does it affect your memory?
WITNESS: I forget..
ATTORNEY: You forget? Can you give us an example of something you forgot?
01-10-2014, 06:26 PM
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ATTORNEY: Now doctor , isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep , he doesn't know about it until the next morning?
WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam?
ATTORNEY: The youngest son , the 20-year-old , how old is he?
WITNESS: He's 20 , much like your IQ.
ATTORNEY: Were you present when your picture was taken?
WITNESS: Are you shi**ing me?
WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam?
ATTORNEY: The youngest son , the 20-year-old , how old is he?
WITNESS: He's 20 , much like your IQ.
ATTORNEY: Were you present when your picture was taken?
WITNESS: Are you shi**ing me?
01-10-2014, 06:27 PM
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ATTORNEY: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: And what were you doing at that time?
WITNESS: Getting laid
ATTORNEY: She had three children , right?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: How many were boys?
WITNESS: None.
ATTORNEY: Were there any girls?
WITNESS: Your Honor, I think I need a different attorney. Can I get a new attorney?
ATTORNEY: How was your first marriage terminated?
WITNESS: By death..
ATTORNEY: And by whose death was it terminated?
WITNESS: Take a guess.
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: And what were you doing at that time?
WITNESS: Getting laid
ATTORNEY: She had three children , right?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: How many were boys?
WITNESS: None.
ATTORNEY: Were there any girls?
WITNESS: Your Honor, I think I need a different attorney. Can I get a new attorney?
ATTORNEY: How was your first marriage terminated?
WITNESS: By death..
ATTORNEY: And by whose death was it terminated?
WITNESS: Take a guess.
01-10-2014, 06:31 PM
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Barry I wouldn't fix the wing and risk the liability if anything happens in the future.The guy is an ass and has shown how he wants to shirk the responsibility. He left the pilot station, he showed no regard for the other pilots when he reentered the runway and back taxied. Mail him his wing back and let him fix it himself. Being a nice guy can get you screwed. Don't open yourself up for a second go around with this guy.
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01-10-2014, 06:34 PM
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ATTORNEY: Can you describe the individual?
WITNESS: He was about medium height and had a beard
ATTORNEY: Was this a male or a female?
WITNESS: Unless the Circus was in town I'm going with male.
ATTORNEY: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice which I sent to your attorney?
WITNESS: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.
ATTORNEY: Doctor , how many of your autopsies have you performed on dead people?
WITNESS: All of them.. The live ones put up too much of a fight.
WITNESS: He was about medium height and had a beard
ATTORNEY: Was this a male or a female?
WITNESS: Unless the Circus was in town I'm going with male.
ATTORNEY: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice which I sent to your attorney?
WITNESS: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.
ATTORNEY: Doctor , how many of your autopsies have you performed on dead people?
WITNESS: All of them.. The live ones put up too much of a fight.
01-10-2014, 06:48 PM
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I'm an American who spends a lot of time in other countries as part of my job. Every country has it's issues ... as you learn when you really get to know people. But you have to admit, we in America seem to have a corner on litigation ... and it sucks. As much as I love this country, I've got to side with the Aussies and Brits on this one.
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01-10-2014, 06:56 PM
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Barry,
#1 Most model events don't have the "luxury" of having separate runways, and taxi ways, so we must share. As stated landing aircraft ALWAYS have the right of way. When he reentered the active runway (on the centerline) he caused the ground collision. When he left his pilot station, and the communication that it allows, he should not have come back down the center of an active runway. He has NO business being there. He should have remained at his station, and requested (from the other spotters) if the runway was clear to taxi back. Common sense would suggest that he should have taxied back on the edge of the runway. Clearly he did not use common sense, and he is at fault.
#2 When you made the offer to repair his wing, you had no idea that he would go off the deep end. I think your offer, and the conditions you attached to it, was very generous, but if you decide to live up to your word, take the advice given here, and don't repair it. Even if he agrees to give you some sort of a waiver, he could deliberately crash the airplane and go after you again. Just get him a new wing. Now having said that, I personally would fight the jerk every step of the way, and the model community will back you up, and "black ball" him, and make him unwelcome everywhere.
#1 Most model events don't have the "luxury" of having separate runways, and taxi ways, so we must share. As stated landing aircraft ALWAYS have the right of way. When he reentered the active runway (on the centerline) he caused the ground collision. When he left his pilot station, and the communication that it allows, he should not have come back down the center of an active runway. He has NO business being there. He should have remained at his station, and requested (from the other spotters) if the runway was clear to taxi back. Common sense would suggest that he should have taxied back on the edge of the runway. Clearly he did not use common sense, and he is at fault.
#2 When you made the offer to repair his wing, you had no idea that he would go off the deep end. I think your offer, and the conditions you attached to it, was very generous, but if you decide to live up to your word, take the advice given here, and don't repair it. Even if he agrees to give you some sort of a waiver, he could deliberately crash the airplane and go after you again. Just get him a new wing. Now having said that, I personally would fight the jerk every step of the way, and the model community will back you up, and "black ball" him, and make him unwelcome everywhere.
01-10-2014, 07:13 PM
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ATTORNEY: ALL your responses MUST be oral , OK? What school did you go to?
WITNESS: Oral..
ATTORNEY: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?
WITNESS: The autopsy started around 8:30 PM
ATTORNEY: And Mr. Denton was dead at the time?
WITNESS: If not , he was by the time I finished.
And last:
ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing?
WITNESS: No..
ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
ATTORNEY: I see, but could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law.
Now I know why Judge Judy gets so pi**ed off!
WITNESS: Oral..
ATTORNEY: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?
WITNESS: The autopsy started around 8:30 PM
ATTORNEY: And Mr. Denton was dead at the time?
WITNESS: If not , he was by the time I finished.
And last:
ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing?
WITNESS: No..
ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
ATTORNEY: I see, but could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law.
Now I know why Judge Judy gets so pi**ed off!
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