$60,000 RC Jet....I am sure we can make a better one
03-30-2014, 08:31 PM
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$60,000 RC Jet....I am sure we can make a better one
http://www.hammacher.com/Product/12185
looks like it is powered by a turbine.....no way this is AMA legal......I don't know what Hammacher is thinking selling this to the public so someone can go fly this in a park .....
come on guys...I am sure you can make a better one than this for under a grand....
looks like it is powered by a turbine.....no way this is AMA legal......I don't know what Hammacher is thinking selling this to the public so someone can go fly this in a park .....
come on guys...I am sure you can make a better one than this for under a grand....
03-31-2014, 08:25 AM
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Let me guess; they "Hammacher Schlemmer" have FEJ making it ......... out of honeycomb?
EDIT: OK, OK, please, no disrespect meant towards Rick Hammell.....he's a genius at unusual projects that actually fly.
I was poking fun at the very idea of Hammacher risking selling one of these to somebody with $$$ and no clue.
- Mike
EDIT: OK, OK, please, no disrespect meant towards Rick Hammell.....he's a genius at unusual projects that actually fly.
I was poking fun at the very idea of Hammacher risking selling one of these to somebody with $$$ and no clue.
- Mike
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03-31-2014, 08:53 AM
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guys, lets stop the stupid bashing here ... First off, the dragon design DOES fly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzP5X9Y58JE
the jet is designed and build by Rick Hammell out of PA, USA. It took tons of development and dozens of individual molds to make this model. As for Hammacher, this is a novelty listing mostly, and something they have on the cover of the catalog. its totally for "neat" factor. Rick is NOT in the business of building kits or planes, he does it for his own personal enjoyment, and the price tag reflects partly what he would probably feel his time would be worth if someone was to want one bad enough. It is undeniable how much interest this dragon has had, and at the same time it has upset some of the hard-core RC retards out there, lol
I know Rick personally and the dude is an amateur aerospace engineering genius. His designs are absolutely awesome. As for the use of honeycomb, he actually does it RIGHT .. just like CAI did with their line of jets ( that honeycomb hold up better than ANY other jets out there )
I have the only other Batwing Rick laid up, and i wont even mention what it ran. To me, it was worth it. But that's because i have an addiction problem here, lol .. It was what Ricks time is worth to him, and he is not a Chinese factory, nor is he set up for production by far .. If anyone wants a batwing, contact us as we can get them molded from Rick, and set up turn key ( there are no instruciton, formers etc .. ).. but they are NOT cheap, and i don't expect many wanting these. in fact, I am yet to finish and fly mine.
so lets STOP bashing a guy that homestly deserves more respect in the hobby that ANY of us here in this thread ...
Voy
03-31-2014, 11:25 AM
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Let me guess; they "Hammacher Schlemmer" have FEJ making it ......... out of honeycomb?
EDIT: OK, OK, please, no disrespect meant towards Rick Hammell.....he's a genius at unusual projects that actually fly.
I was poking fun at the very idea of Hammacher risking selling one of these to somebody with $$$ and no clue.
- Mike
EDIT: OK, OK, please, no disrespect meant towards Rick Hammell.....he's a genius at unusual projects that actually fly.
I was poking fun at the very idea of Hammacher risking selling one of these to somebody with $$$ and no clue.
- Mike
It was a gimmick that was only there to attract people into browsing the catalog and I doubt that there was more than one that was available - if that.
There are several "disclaimers" in the ad and I doubt there will be any takers - but if there are, I'm sure Rich will have to custom make one - except for the one original...
Bob
03-31-2014, 12:26 PM
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This reminds me of the time, way back when, that "Sharper Image" had a Gold Plated DeLoren in their catalog. It was listed at something like $85,000 (back when you could buy an average car for $5000).
It was a gimmick that was only there to attract people into browsing the catalog and I doubt that there was more than one that was available - if that.
There are several "disclaimers" in the ad and I doubt there will be any takers - but if there are, I'm sure Rich will have to custom make one - except for the one original...
Bob
It was a gimmick that was only there to attract people into browsing the catalog and I doubt that there was more than one that was available - if that.
There are several "disclaimers" in the ad and I doubt there will be any takers - but if there are, I'm sure Rich will have to custom make one - except for the one original...
Bob
I was responding to the same idea. Can you imagine the liability of selling this to someone with no idea of how to fly it or an AMA turbine waiver? I guess that puts me in the catagory of "posting moronic comments." I stand by my comment, It IS a bad idea to advertise this plane for sale to the general public, no matter how much of an engineering feat is is to make it fly.
03-31-2014, 12:56 PM
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Pylon, you should attempt to see the good in life not just the negative.
Anyway, I think its cool as he||. Not something I'd buy but you absolutely have to admire the talent that went into making it.
Dale
Anyway, I think its cool as he||. Not something I'd buy but you absolutely have to admire the talent that went into making it.
Dale
03-31-2014, 01:13 PM
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I was responding to the same idea. Can you imagine the liability of selling this to someone with no idea of how to fly it or an AMA turbine waiver? I guess that puts me in the catagory of "posting moronic comments." I stand by my comment, It IS a bad idea to advertise this plane for sale to the general public, no matter how much of an engineering feat is is to make it fly.
afterall, the AMA insurance is Secondary to your primary insurance policy.
03-31-2014, 01:30 PM
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http://www.hammacher.com/Product/12185
looks like it is powered by a turbine.....no way this is AMA legal......I don't know what Hammacher is thinking selling this to the public so someone can go fly this in a park .....
come on guys...I am sure you can make a better one than this for under a grand....
looks like it is powered by a turbine.....no way this is AMA legal......I don't know what Hammacher is thinking selling this to the public so someone can go fly this in a park .....
come on guys...I am sure you can make a better one than this for under a grand....
The project was simply stunning imo. I look forward to his Bat Plane.
03-31-2014, 01:30 PM
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I thought I did see the good in life, at least I try to.
I took one look at that plane and was immediatly scared from a liability standpoint. Maybe I look at it from a business standpoint because I have seen what can happen to a business when things do not go as planned.
That being said, the engeneering that went into it to make it fly is nothing short of amazing.
03-31-2014, 03:59 PM
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Wojtec, I think you misunderstand the point most people are making here. Nobody (I think) is saying it isn't an awesome accomplishment and doesn't have that cool factor, it absolutely does.
The point at least I was trying to make was the logic in selling a model that complicated to operate by the general public in a Hammacher magazine. I think it is safe to say that the majority of their clientele are non-modelers. I would hate to see something like that in the hands of a complete novice, rich or not. First off it would be dangerous as heck and secondly I would hate to see someone destroy such a beautiful creation on their first try, which would certainly happen to a novice. Tragic all around.
Now if it were selling it in an RC magazine or RC web page that would be completely different.
That's all I was saying at least.
The point at least I was trying to make was the logic in selling a model that complicated to operate by the general public in a Hammacher magazine. I think it is safe to say that the majority of their clientele are non-modelers. I would hate to see something like that in the hands of a complete novice, rich or not. First off it would be dangerous as heck and secondly I would hate to see someone destroy such a beautiful creation on their first try, which would certainly happen to a novice. Tragic all around.
Now if it were selling it in an RC magazine or RC web page that would be completely different.
That's all I was saying at least.
03-31-2014, 06:28 PM
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I noticed in the ad for this there was a box at the bottom noting that "Special conditions" apply to the sale and to call to find out what they are. I suspect that these conditions may include a proof of ability to operate or something like that. I would be very surprised if their lawyers would allow just anyone with the cash to get one, the possible lawsuits (which would surely involve them) could be very costly.
John
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03-31-2014, 06:53 PM
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I thought I did see the good in life, at least I try to.
I took one look at that plane and was immediatly scared from a liability standpoint. Maybe I look at it from a business standpoint because I have seen what can happen to a business when things do not go as planned.
That being said, the engeneering that went into it to make it fly is nothing short of amazing.
I took one look at that plane and was immediatly scared from a liability standpoint. Maybe I look at it from a business standpoint because I have seen what can happen to a business when things do not go as planned.
That being said, the engeneering that went into it to make it fly is nothing short of amazing.
Bob
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03-31-2014, 07:10 PM
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Confucius says: "Rich kid who fly plane powered by kerosene, then crash in big ball of fire"
--- Seriously speaking....there should be a big disclaimer when buying this plane as to the damage it can cause and the dangers of a model turbine engine.....
--- Seriously speaking....there should be a big disclaimer when buying this plane as to the damage it can cause and the dangers of a model turbine engine.....
04-01-2014, 03:50 AM
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