BVM Plug and Play F16
10-24-2014, 09:32 AM
#127
Here is a pic all fueled ready to fly showing the new stance with new main springs and a weaker nose spring with the correct F16 ride height. Some have said I would have problems rotating. Well with the gear on the F16 being so close to the CG I knew they didn't know what they are talking about. So the 10 gallons of fuel I burnt yesterday in the F16 says I was right flies great and no problem rotating.
11-10-2014, 08:12 AM
#131
It will be fine with the 210 but you will need to watch the top end speed. I think it would be enough flat and level to cause structural failure.
IMO anything that will take a 180 should just use a 210 for better fuel economy and an engine that will fit many different airframes in the future.Also another benefit is how much cooler the 210 runs witch will help the pipe last longer. But care on the top end speed needs to be considered with the 210.
IMO anything that will take a 180 should just use a 210 for better fuel economy and an engine that will fit many different airframes in the future.Also another benefit is how much cooler the 210 runs witch will help the pipe last longer. But care on the top end speed needs to be considered with the 210.
11-10-2014, 11:15 AM
#133
BVM has a VNE listed in the manual but I don't off hand remember what it is. I would not go over 170mph with it. Its not a fast plane. Its big and light. watched Rob Lynch 2 weeks ago with his clean thunderbirds plane with a 160 inside it and it was moving pretty fast and he put the plane through any and every maneuver you can do with it so it can take what ever you throw at it but I would keep the top speed down.
11-10-2014, 07:19 PM
#135
Dantley,
the published VNE is 175mph.
kris is correct about the top speed, I'd be cautious. I agree with his comments re the K210, I suspect we'll see more and more of them, even just turned down because of the fuel efficiency and cooler temps.
i assume your question about residual thrust was aimed at idle thrust? The idle thrust on the K210 is 1.4lbs (6.2N). The f-16 with the gear down does have a good amount of drag and if you add the drop tanks I see no issues with the k210 at idle or near idle.
the published VNE is 175mph.
kris is correct about the top speed, I'd be cautious. I agree with his comments re the K210, I suspect we'll see more and more of them, even just turned down because of the fuel efficiency and cooler temps.
i assume your question about residual thrust was aimed at idle thrust? The idle thrust on the K210 is 1.4lbs (6.2N). The f-16 with the gear down does have a good amount of drag and if you add the drop tanks I see no issues with the k210 at idle or near idle.
08-23-2015, 07:32 AM
#137
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Hi guys,
I am on my second season with my F16. I wonder if you all have mushy feelings when you take off? I have a 140Rx in mine and it flies fine but flying right after TO has required more "up" than I usually need to hold. almost full at times just to keep it on a gentle few degree climb. Once it gets going it flies great.
My stab trim is a little below the mark on the template/skin (leading edge). My CG is on to one finger breadth aft (hat full, gear down). I am wondering if I am still a bit nose heavy or if the 140 just takes a little time.
Any thoughts would be great.
Thanks
Dave
I am on my second season with my F16. I wonder if you all have mushy feelings when you take off? I have a 140Rx in mine and it flies fine but flying right after TO has required more "up" than I usually need to hold. almost full at times just to keep it on a gentle few degree climb. Once it gets going it flies great.
My stab trim is a little below the mark on the template/skin (leading edge). My CG is on to one finger breadth aft (hat full, gear down). I am wondering if I am still a bit nose heavy or if the 140 just takes a little time.
Any thoughts would be great.
Thanks
Dave
08-23-2015, 08:08 AM
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Nose heavy. I am running 1/2" in front of the mark. 200 flights. Locks into a good attitude on landing. I have a p140rx in mine as well. Only time mine feels sluggish is with the smoke tanks full.
08-23-2015, 10:47 AM
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Hey guys, I will be flying my f-16 with a Pegasus HP, wonder what you guys are doing in terms of fuel tanks/smoke tanks combination. I'm thinking of one of the two smoke tanks to fuel being the peggy has a bigger appetite. Planning on flying it loaded for bear most of the time.
08-23-2015, 02:25 PM
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yes I am sorry. 1/2" behind the mark. I kept creeping mine back and found the aft limit about 1" behind the mark. You will know when you are close. It will begin to get very "pitch happy" on approach ( not unmanageable) when you have gone too far.
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