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11-18-2014, 02:21 PM
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Hello FAA!
Interesting read..........
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
November 18, 2014
Contact: Laura Brown or Les Dorr
Phone: 202-267-3883
FAA Statement on NTSB Decision in Huerta v. Pirker
WASHINGTON – The Federal Aviation Administration is pleased the National Transportation Safety Board found that unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) meet the legal definition of “aircraft,” and that that the agency may take enforcement action against anyone who operates a UAS or model aircraft in a careless or reckless manner.
The FAA believes Mr. Pirker operated a UAS in a careless or reckless manner, and that the proposed civil penalty should stand. The agency looks forward to a factual determination by the Administrative Law Judge on the “careless or reckless” nature of the operation in question.......
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
November 18, 2014
Contact: Laura Brown or Les Dorr
Phone: 202-267-3883
FAA Statement on NTSB Decision in Huerta v. Pirker
WASHINGTON – The Federal Aviation Administration is pleased the National Transportation Safety Board found that unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) meet the legal definition of “aircraft,” and that that the agency may take enforcement action against anyone who operates a UAS or model aircraft in a careless or reckless manner.
The FAA believes Mr. Pirker operated a UAS in a careless or reckless manner, and that the proposed civil penalty should stand. The agency looks forward to a factual determination by the Administrative Law Judge on the “careless or reckless” nature of the operation in question.......
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11-18-2014, 08:10 PM
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Land of the free eh? Think I'm glad I'm up here. Don't get me wrong I like all of my American cousins but lordy your country is getting to be pretty hardcore.
11-18-2014, 10:35 PM
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Total BS but a way to drastically reduce the amount of non professional commercial activity.
As far as I am aware of, this is pretty much what Australia has ruled already ( except for IR ).
11-19-2014, 05:17 AM
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On the other side of the story at my work just last week we almost had a mid air with a quad copter and it was in class B airspace at about 700 feet. My guys followed it back and got our ground units to respond but not really anything anyone can about it right now other then tell him to not do it. Some rules need to be made because allot of people have no freaking sense.
I hate the government being involved in anything as specially the hobby I love. But when our 4 million dollar helicopter and 2 of my good friends almost eat a quad through the windshield something needs to be done. not to mention this is a densely populated area class B airspace with lots of airline traffic military traffic and our helicopter all sharing the same airspace.
I wouldn't worry about the FAA much if you are a responsible flyer that does not do stupid crap. This is all a way that if you are a retard they can do something about it.
I hate the government being involved in anything as specially the hobby I love. But when our 4 million dollar helicopter and 2 of my good friends almost eat a quad through the windshield something needs to be done. not to mention this is a densely populated area class B airspace with lots of airline traffic military traffic and our helicopter all sharing the same airspace.
I wouldn't worry about the FAA much if you are a responsible flyer that does not do stupid crap. This is all a way that if you are a retard they can do something about it.
11-19-2014, 08:00 AM
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On the other side of the story at my work just last week we almost had a mid air with a quad copter and it was in class B airspace at about 700 feet. My guys followed it back and got our ground units to respond but not really anything anyone can about it right now other then tell him to not do it. Some rules need to be made because allot of people have no freaking sense.
I hate the government being involved in anything as specially the hobby I love. But when our 4 million dollar helicopter and 2 of my good friends almost eat a quad through the windshield something needs to be done. not to mention this is a densely populated area class B airspace with lots of airline traffic military traffic and our helicopter all sharing the same airspace.
I wouldn't worry about the FAA much if you are a responsible flyer that does not do stupid crap. This is all a way that if you are a retard they can do something about it.
I hate the government being involved in anything as specially the hobby I love. But when our 4 million dollar helicopter and 2 of my good friends almost eat a quad through the windshield something needs to be done. not to mention this is a densely populated area class B airspace with lots of airline traffic military traffic and our helicopter all sharing the same airspace.
I wouldn't worry about the FAA much if you are a responsible flyer that does not do stupid crap. This is all a way that if you are a retard they can do something about it.
Exactly! These backyard Cowboys are the problem, seen it all over the place, hovering over traffic and people, flying over amusement parks, guys flying no line of sight way higher than they should at non approved sites etc...
11-19-2014, 09:12 AM
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Banning products is not the answer, For one what would you ban? any RC craft can be used to fly in the wrong place.
11-19-2014, 10:32 AM
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[QUOTE=flycatch;11921145]The solution to the problem is simple. Ban all retailers from selling this product. Public safety is the key issue and that is why it is mandatory to have seat belts in a vehicle.[/QUOTE
That will go over like a turd in a punch bowl... It's like gun control.. It's not the gun or the quad-copter... , it's the complete senseless idiot with the finger on the trigger or the guy at the controls. When will people figure this out. I could kill the piss out of someone with a credit card... Should we outlaw those too ?? ...
Wearing me out !!!,
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That will go over like a turd in a punch bowl... It's like gun control.. It's not the gun or the quad-copter... , it's the complete senseless idiot with the finger on the trigger or the guy at the controls. When will people figure this out. I could kill the piss out of someone with a credit card... Should we outlaw those too ?? ...
Wearing me out !!!,
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11-19-2014, 10:32 AM
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Of what I've read the most important word in this ruling is RECKLESS.
If you fly reckless you'll be punished.
That's what I understand... I don't know others way of thinking.
hmarmaizmd717
If you fly reckless you'll be punished.
That's what I understand... I don't know others way of thinking.
hmarmaizmd717
!!! Exactly !!! That's what I'm talk'in bout !! Brings new meaning to the phrase " Both barrels, all four blades " 
11-19-2014, 03:42 PM
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Idiotic human behaviors will NEVER be changed by any law, period. Many of the so called laws are written by those who lack the common sense needed to overcome such problems. These are unfortunately the sad facts with the way this country is controlled. Good luck to the FAA in controlling these people !! 
11-19-2014, 04:29 PM
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the truth of the matter is,, most of these MOTARDS are not AMA members and have no Idea of the rules that come from operating a remote model. Literally a soccer mom can go out and buy her kid an Rc airplane and just turn them loose,, and that is a problem. Some of these quadcopters are made just for these idiots, they don't have to know how to fly, they can push a button and it will stay, or a panic button and it can re-level itself. You think Im kidding have you seen this,,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxrujhtYBBo IF you don't think these kids are going to be in the streets with this thing, you are mistaken, and when they start putting them into peoples windows, cars, ETC. (and its gonna happen) something will have to be done about it,, and when it is GUESS who is gonna pay,, Us the rule following card carrying AMA members, IT is total crap, and its gonna get worse..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxrujhtYBBo IF you don't think these kids are going to be in the streets with this thing, you are mistaken, and when they start putting them into peoples windows, cars, ETC. (and its gonna happen) something will have to be done about it,, and when it is GUESS who is gonna pay,, Us the rule following card carrying AMA members, IT is total crap, and its gonna get worse..
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11-19-2014, 05:06 PM
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It doesn't help when you have super mega hobby stores like Horizon putting out ads like the one I received today showing a new drone flying over the multitudes of sun bathers on a beach at a resort. It has to start with education somewhere. My son, who's an ATP regional pilot, says they should make the penalty the same as when they point lasers at a cockpit, automatic jail time. Do that a few times and these idiots will wake up. The Christmas catalogs are full of them and no mention of the AMA.
11-19-2014, 07:55 PM
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The FAA needs to start a major education campaign starting with setting down with the AMA and the entire hobby industry. Next they need to print up some
common sense rules and post them in all hobby shops and have the rules included with every kit sold in the USA.
Also the FAA needs to really go after people who are doing dangerous things and endangering full scale aircraft. I think it may come to having everyone
that fly's RC register with the FAA especially if they wish to fly anywhere other than a RC site. The next step would be anyone caught flying without the
proper credentials and or endangering full scale would be arrested and their RC gear confiscated.
common sense rules and post them in all hobby shops and have the rules included with every kit sold in the USA.
Also the FAA needs to really go after people who are doing dangerous things and endangering full scale aircraft. I think it may come to having everyone
that fly's RC register with the FAA especially if they wish to fly anywhere other than a RC site. The next step would be anyone caught flying without the
proper credentials and or endangering full scale would be arrested and their RC gear confiscated.
11-20-2014, 09:38 AM
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Wearing me out !!!,
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11-20-2014, 10:25 AM
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Ok.........then we need to report EVERY structural failure, powerplant failure including fuel exhaustion, every control system failure, every hard landing,every limitation exceedence to the FAA including all RC, Controline and free flight operations. As taxpayers, we should demand that the FAA investigate every event and establish policies and procedures to minimize risk and ensure safety for the flying modeler. The AMA needs to provide advise on how many people will need to be hired by the FAA to provide adequate regulatory compliance for 140,000+ additional model aviators (each of which operate several aircraft) that now come under the FAA's jurisdiction. I recomend that we call our local FAA offices and ask how they plan to police these operations now under their jurisdiction.....maybe daily calling until and answer is given will be needed.
Keep in mind that gliders and AIRCRAFT in distress have the right of way above all other aircraft.
Keep in mind that gliders and AIRCRAFT in distress have the right of way above all other aircraft.
11-20-2014, 12:12 PM
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Ok.........then we need to report EVERY structural failure, powerplant failure including fuel exhaustion, every control system failure, every hard landing,every limitation exceedence to the FAA including all RC, Controline and free flight operations. As taxpayers, we should demand that the FAA investigate every event and establish policies and procedures to minimize risk and ensure safety for the flying modeler. The AMA needs to provide advise on how many people will need to be hired by the FAA to provide adequate regulatory compliance for 140,000+ additional model aviators (each of which operate several aircraft) that now come under the FAA's jurisdiction. I recomend that we call our local FAA offices and ask how they plan to police these operations now under their jurisdiction.....maybe daily calling until and answer is given will be needed.
Keep in mind that gliders and AIRCRAFT in distress have the right of way above all other aircraft.
Keep in mind that gliders and AIRCRAFT in distress have the right of way above all other aircraft.
Here's a new one...... http://www.wpxi.com/videos/news/auth...potted/vC3cnB/