Dave Wilshere

Just had in some of the new Habu 32x kits. Really liked my original Habu 32, converted to turbine power it was a perfect winter/quick fly turbine model.
The 32x has slightly more wing area and a different wing platform. I really like the scheme too

DrScoles

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Turbine power again?

Dave Wilshere

Yep! P-20. Started getting stuff together today, we did quite a few conversions on the old version, around 5% more wing on this one and the fuselage "feels" slightly lighter than the Mk1

Dave

Paul0088

Looks good Dave

SushiHunter

Cool! I'm interested to hear from those who have flown the Habu 32 if flying the new Habu is different in any ways compared to the older one. I've got two of the older Habu 32's but not interested to go out and get a new one unless it has some different flight characteristics. I refinished one of my Habu's about 5 months ago because I wanted distinctive top and bottom colors. But turns out the paint on my Habu 32 looks a lot like the new Habu 32X. Will be interested to hear what your feedback is in relation to a comparison between the two Habu's.

Dave Wilshere

I put over 130 flights on my P-20 powered Habu 32 before selling it on, I'm interested to see any difference too, I have access to an Original Habu 32 I did a turbine conversion on recently, so can even fly them back to back if needed. Want to fly it at our UK winter jet meeting Classic Jets on the 30th, so will crack on around other models I need to get finished for customers.

SushiHunter

From what I've seen so far, it seems the only difference besides the color scheme is the swept back wing design. Would a swept back wing have a higher stall speed compared to the older Habu without the swept back wing? I'd love to put a P-20 in one of my Habu 32's......if I won the lottery first

DUCMOZ

Hi Dave

I am interested to see how it goes. I am using a P20SX in a stinger foamy and it is a lot of fun now as we have similar weather as you do. The important criteria for me is that it needs to take off the grass field.

Thanks
Behzad

LA jetguy

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Dave Wilshere

Wing and tail are different. Stall speed was never a problem on my Habu 32 turbine. Most of the flights I did were on grass. This is a poor video of mine, winter time grass www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRC_1s_YA2I.

Dave

Dave Wilshere

Here is another that HH UK did, but not a complete flight. www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKaRGyhGEpE

SushiHunter

Nice bird, nice video. So since you're running a turbine in this bird, did you have to beef up the area where the wings join the fuse or does it work out well completely stock? On my Habu, when I was doing final assembly, I was skeptical in regards to how the wings and horizontal stabs go into the fuse. Seemed like it would need more than what it comes with factory. How about servos? Are you running the recommended stock servos or did you upgrade? I've upgraded mine to Futaba digital sbus but in doing so I had to retool the servo mount areas to accommodate the slightly larger Futaba servos. Wings were the easiest to retool. The servo in the vertical stab for the rudder was the most difficult due to the tight area.

Dave Wilshere

As far as structural integrity, no worries. It was obviously designed by someone who knew what they were doing, EDF and turbine are similar OA weights, just the turbine one gets lighter before landing! Like I said, 130+ flights with snaps and spins in just about everyone. I'm not a stick "yanker" but grass use and a whole group of different sites didn't show up any issues with the fixings and U/C mounting. The wings maybe could have done with a forward fixing point, but I just improved the front anti rotation pin fit and it was never a problem. Its a small model and over engineering/beefing up will destroy the performance and handling. Keep it light!
Servos I used stock JR servos throughout mine, plastic geared in the wing and never had an issue. This one I think I'm going to use Savox 255 in the wing a JR DS 362 rudder and either DS351 or NES331 on the elevator. Need to look in the fuse and see the mounting points as HH now list their servos.
Hoped to start it today, but ended up busy doing some work on a customers CARF Edge 540 and I have now Linished the end of one finger off on a new 80 grit belt!

Will see tomorrow.

Dave

SushiHunter

What's the weight of your Habu wet? Since your mentioning keeping it light, I worry now because mine is slightly a little heavier then stock, because of the slightly larger servos I'm running plus telemetry sensors and 8S (2 x 4S 5000MaH). Stock I believe was 6S. I'm also running a little bit heavier fan unit in it compared to the suggested V32.

Dave Wilshere

I don't have it anymore, but I'd say wet was around 8lb. I know some of the conversions done were heavy with moulded tanks and double walled tail pipes and they would have been heavier still wet, so its probably nothing to worry about. They just fly better lighter!

SushiHunter

I see. Good to know. 8lbs wet is pretty light still.

Dave Wilshere

Yeh, mine was OK, I know a few were that dry...

SushiHunter

From your experience with the Habu 32, utilizing flaps, what is the acceptable/adequate airspeed during final approach for a plane that weight, size and design?

LA jetguy

Im planning on setting up my HABU32X on 8S using Tam HET-Fan system... possibly later will be converting it to a P20... what would be the best servos to use other than the recommended Hitech and what size??

Thank you

Dave Wilshere

No way of measuring it, but it lands slow enough with fill flap, some CROW (3mm) Biggest thing is the flap control set up is poor, the way they show the control horn is like a two way surface, the bottom hinge means the clevis pin should be behind the hinge line with the flaps up, I angled the horn back before glueing so that I could get 80 degrees flap and good holding power, I can see the flaps being inconsistent with the stock geometry.

People mix up Ground speed verses airspeed, obviously on a windy day the airspeed is high, but ground travel low.
The original Habu had a "soft" elevator like a Bandit, so you can gauge if you are gong too slow for the airframe as it will start to feel dead on the elevator.

Dave

SushiHunter

Thanks for the info. Yeah, airspeed is my primary focus as round speed can vary, depending on weather related wind speed. Airspeed sufficient for lift is a more "fixed" measurement.

Converting a Habu 32 to turbine, that's amazing actually, because not only are you adding the weight of the power plant and fuel, but there are also many other components added to accomplish this such as pipe, tank, linkage, etc. etc. To squeeze all this into a Habu 32 airframe and still get it to around 8lbs or so wet, that's pretty impressive IMO.

Bob_B

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I fueled my Habu 32 with 8S 4000's, you might be nose heavy with 8S 5000's. My RTF weight was 7 3/4 lbs it was fast on the JF80/Neu1512/3D motor

SushiHunter

I'm hoping the "nose heavy" issue will be minimal and eliminated by positioning the batteries as far aft as possible. I've seen 10S and 12S Habu 32's fly just fine so it must be a negotiable configuration. As for motor, EDF fan unit, and ESC, my habu 32 has a HET 700-45-1485 motor and StuMax EDF fan unit along with a Castle Creations Phoenix Edge HV series ESC & BEC.

Pull Up Now!

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about to pull the trigger (buy) on the new Habu 32X.

Dave Wilshere

Cell number still does not say capacity! It could be 12s 2700's (unlikely)
I have flown a couple of Habu 32's and thought they were all a little nose heavy with 60c 5000 6s packs. Memory says the balance was 110-112mm back? I set my Turbine 1/4" further back with the main tank at its lowest flying level (about 10mm)

You can certainly push some of the heavy gear back

Dave