Habu 32X
12-10-2014, 11:24 AM
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For sure. Had I not bought two of the 32's five or so months ago, I would have held off and got the 32X. Biggest selling point between the two for me is the color scheme. I love the 32X's more than the previous Habu. I spent some time refinishing my Habu 32 from the factory red, silver and black to a Jamaican Yellow. The new 32X is closer to a cub yellow IMO but still would have saved me time and money refinishing it like I did.
12-10-2014, 11:31 AM
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Main objective in changing the color scheme was the factory 32's didn't seem to have much of a difference in top vs bottom. Both sides had all the same colors, just a difference in design. I like to have greatest contrast between the two. On my 32, I left the bottom side of the wings and horizontal stabs completely factory with the red/black checkerboard & silver and black trim, but the belly of the fuse was changed to solid silver. Interestingly enough though, a month or so after I completed the refinishing work on my own Habu, images of the new 32X started to appear on the net. It works for me, I'm happy with the outcome, but I know not everyone would like or want their 32 to look like mine.
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12-11-2014, 07:07 AM
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I took the plunge and ordered my 1st jet. Habu 32X.
I simply went with all of the HH recommended stuff. Sooooo,
How fast are these when set up stock?
I also got the retract upgrade from Tam.
Pretty stoked right now.
I simply went with all of the HH recommended stuff. Sooooo,
How fast are these when set up stock?
I also got the retract upgrade from Tam.
Pretty stoked right now.
12-11-2014, 07:48 AM
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You go for their stock 30c packs too?
150mph or there abouts.
We had some Tams legs and I thought the stock wire was better on grass.
Dave
150mph or there abouts.
We had some Tams legs and I thought the stock wire was better on grass.
Dave
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12-11-2014, 07:53 AM
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I went with Turnigy Heavy Duty Series 5000mAh 6S 60C Lipo Pack
I wasn't sure about the lower C rating.
I ordered the Tams retract upgrade kit too. I only fly off a club runway. Not really pavement but it's close.
150mph?
COOL!
I wasn't sure about the lower C rating.
I ordered the Tams retract upgrade kit too. I only fly off a club runway. Not really pavement but it's close.
150mph?
COOL!
12-11-2014, 09:28 AM
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Lots of vids on youtube of the Habu 32 with various motor, esc, battery configurations that show many speeds. Best bet for you to actually "see" what it can do completely stock and modified is to check out the Habu 32 videos on youtube. Stock is ok but when you see what others have done, you may wish to upgrade.
Below are a few notable examples that I've come across that are pretty nice. Last one is of a turbine powered Habu 32.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfjKGOggIK4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwEhhiTS2xA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVxEpseS7LE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abaogk-a3fo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD0oV7AOhLs
Below are a few notable examples that I've come across that are pretty nice. Last one is of a turbine powered Habu 32.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfjKGOggIK4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwEhhiTS2xA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVxEpseS7LE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abaogk-a3fo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD0oV7AOhLs
12-13-2014, 03:17 PM
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OK, finally had a little time today, started looking at wings, one of the things I did on the first one was angle back the flap horns. As designed the bottom hinge and forward inline clevis point means that at 90 degree flap there is no leverage and the flaps blow back. Actually the X does not seem quite as bad, but either way I re profiled two of the horns to angle back slightly. I also decided to do away with the Y lead flap servo set up and go mirrored as normal, so I used some of the wheel well film to cover the hole and cut a new slot.
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12-13-2014, 07:03 PM
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I'm hoping the "nose heavy" issue will be minimal and eliminated by positioning the batteries as far aft as possible. I've seen 10S and 12S Habu 32's fly just fine so it must be a negotiable configuration. As for motor, EDF fan unit, and ESC, my habu 32 has a HET 700-45-1485 motor and StuMax EDF fan unit along with a Castle Creations Phoenix Edge HV series ESC & BEC.
Matt
12-15-2014, 11:20 AM
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I saw your old build thread from a while back on your P20 Habu 32 and you mentioned the same thing. Are you doing this for mechanical advantage, or do you use that much flap? Just curious as I have a 32, 32X, and have another 32X that I'm putting a P20 in that I have not built yet. I find that the manual's recommendation for flap settings is pretty good, I added about 3/16 crow on the ailerons and it slows her up even more, just don't use full flaps/crow in the wind!
OK, finally had a little time today, started looking at wings, one of the things I did on the first one was angle back the flap horns. As designed the bottom hinge and forward inline clevis point means that at 90 degree flap there is no leverage and the flaps blow back. Actually the X does not seem quite as bad, but either way I re profiled two of the horns to angle back slightly. I also decided to do away with the Y lead flap servo set up and go mirrored as normal, so I used some of the wheel well film to cover the hole and cut a new slot.
Dw
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12-15-2014, 12:59 PM
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I saw your old build thread from a while back on your P20 Habu 32 and you mentioned the same thing. Are you doing this for mechanical advantage, or do you use that much flap? Just curious as I have a 32, 32X, and have another 32X that I'm putting a P20 in that I have not built yet. I find that the manual's recommendation for flap settings is pretty good, I added about 3/16 crow on the ailerons and it slows her up even more, just don't use full flaps/crow in the wind!
With the stock horn layout you reduce the leverage the more flap you put on, the stock set up will give variable flap amounts depending on airspeed.
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12-15-2014, 01:29 PM
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I flew mine with 8s 5000 mah, little bit more nose heavy, but no problem. At the added weight it flys more like a large turbine model. It's an excellent turbine trainer. If you are confident and fly the Habu 32 at 8s well, flying something like the Jet Legend Viper is an easy conversion.
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The underside of the wings and horizontal stabs are completely factory with the fuse completely silver. I wanted it this way so there is no question which side is up and which side is down from a reasonable distance. The stock top and bottom color scheme was almost too close to the same IMO. With it this way, I can identify the top and bottom quickly.
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12-20-2014, 01:25 PM
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Looks good!
Was asked to test fly an old/new Habu 32 P-20SX today. even on rough grass it coped well. No CROW on this one.
When back in the office managed to glue some of the horns in the wings and elevators. Moved the elevator ones in slightly as the elevator rods look like they need to bow a lot to meet the std position.
Aileron horn needs the top sloping so it does not protrude the top covering
Was asked to test fly an old/new Habu 32 P-20SX today. even on rough grass it coped well. No CROW on this one.
When back in the office managed to glue some of the horns in the wings and elevators. Moved the elevator ones in slightly as the elevator rods look like they need to bow a lot to meet the std position.
Aileron horn needs the top sloping so it does not protrude the top covering
12-22-2014, 01:41 PM
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Nice looking pix. Love the pix of her coming in for a landing with the flaps deployed. Nice.
Looks good!
Was asked to test fly an old/new Habu 32 P-20SX today. even on rough grass it coped well. No CROW on this one.
When back in the office managed to glue some of the horns in the wings and elevators. Moved the elevator ones in slightly as the elevator rods look like they need to bow a lot to meet the std position.
Aileron horn needs the top sloping so it does not protrude the top covering
Was asked to test fly an old/new Habu 32 P-20SX today. even on rough grass it coped well. No CROW on this one.
When back in the office managed to glue some of the horns in the wings and elevators. Moved the elevator ones in slightly as the elevator rods look like they need to bow a lot to meet the std position.
Aileron horn needs the top sloping so it does not protrude the top covering
12-22-2014, 01:45 PM
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I noticed an issue with my LH side elevator too, had to "bow" the linkage out a little. When I build my P20 32X I will do this as well, thanks for the tip!
Looks good!
Was asked to test fly an old/new Habu 32 P-20SX today. even on rough grass it coped well. No CROW on this one.
When back in the office managed to glue some of the horns in the wings and elevators. Moved the elevator ones in slightly as the elevator rods look like they need to bow a lot to meet the std position.
Aileron horn needs the top sloping so it does not protrude the top covering
Was asked to test fly an old/new Habu 32 P-20SX today. even on rough grass it coped well. No CROW on this one.
When back in the office managed to glue some of the horns in the wings and elevators. Moved the elevator ones in slightly as the elevator rods look like they need to bow a lot to meet the std position.
Aileron horn needs the top sloping so it does not protrude the top covering
12-22-2014, 02:43 PM
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Little Stevie (my usual flight photographer) always seems to catch some good shots...sure its just my camera and model positioning ;-)
Seems a but odd to have got the elevator linkage so far out. I have already decided to use a ball link on the inside of the horn.
No work on it today again, but some ribbing at the M&R Xmas party tonight means I need to crack on, I'm committed to flying it a week tomorrow and I have three days away from the workshop in that time.
Dave
Seems a but odd to have got the elevator linkage so far out. I have already decided to use a ball link on the inside of the horn.
No work on it today again, but some ribbing at the M&R Xmas party tonight means I need to crack on, I'm committed to flying it a week tomorrow and I have three days away from the workshop in that time.
Dave
12-23-2014, 10:27 AM
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Little Stevie (my usual flight photographer) always seems to catch some good shots...sure its just my camera and model positioning ;-)
Seems a but odd to have got the elevator linkage so far out. I have already decided to use a ball link on the inside of the horn.
No work on it today again, but some ribbing at the M&R Xmas party tonight means I need to crack on, I'm committed to flying it a week tomorrow and I have three days away from the workshop in that time.
Dave
Seems a but odd to have got the elevator linkage so far out. I have already decided to use a ball link on the inside of the horn.
No work on it today again, but some ribbing at the M&R Xmas party tonight means I need to crack on, I'm committed to flying it a week tomorrow and I have three days away from the workshop in that time.
Dave
12-23-2014, 01:45 PM
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Under turbine power most EDF issues are gone such as low power, nose heavy or high stall speed. Usually the conversion turns out at the same weight as the 6S EDF when taking off. Then loosing almost 2lb for landing(well atleast 1.5lb). It's a win win if not looking at the $$$ :-)
As most know by now turbine thrust times 2 = EDF thrust. So a P20 making 24N equals a 48N EDF setup which in common talk would be a hot 8S setup. :-)
As most know by now turbine thrust times 2 = EDF thrust. So a P20 making 24N equals a 48N EDF setup which in common talk would be a hot 8S setup. :-)
12-26-2014, 11:50 PM
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Cheers,
Ed
12-27-2014, 12:28 AM
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I've always liked the Tamjets but things can always improve. I have designed new struts where the same strut can be straight or folded back. Also customizable in length to fit all applications. prototypes are under testing now in the Taft Viperjet and Jetarrows Vampire. We'll see how they turn out
