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Old 12-17-2014, 06:07 PM
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Default Jet cat P80-SE or King tech K-100

What do you guys think is best as both are real close. the only thing better is the JC is better on fuel according to them.
Old 12-17-2014, 06:15 PM
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Merlin vt-80 brushless the best in class lightes and no other turbine offers lower fuel economy .of the two I will go with the k-100g.
Old 12-17-2014, 08:38 PM
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If fuel is important then the VT80 is best. If you are looking at just these 2 engines the Kingtech is the way to go
Old 12-17-2014, 09:36 PM
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Thanks Just got my waiver and looking for a new modern turbine and airframe. Looking at some of the Skymaster extreme planes and the 20-30 lbs thrust range. I will look at the VT80. Fuel effieciency is good becuse i maybe be able to get a bigger airframe and fly on a smaller turbine or install a larger one in a smaller airframe with limited fuel supply. Just looking and trying to make an informed buy since its going to be around 5000 any way you look at it.

Would like something that does 200, can land on something as small as a 400 foot strip and look like a real plane.
Old 12-17-2014, 10:08 PM
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Also look at the Jets Munt M100xbl. It's in the same thrust class as the P80 and K100 but smaller and lighter than both.
Old 12-17-2014, 11:26 PM
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A P-90 rxi actually has about 2 #s more thrust than a K-100 or the P-100 for that matter. It is going to be hard to get 200 mph out of a small fuel efficient engine in a larger air frame. An 80 is at the very bottom of the 20-30 # thrust range if even in it. I think the K-100 is around 22 #s
Old 12-18-2014, 05:06 AM
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Besides thrust... the K-100 is going to be smaller in physical size, have internal valves and full kero start over the 80SE.
Old 12-19-2014, 05:36 AM
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So nice to have all these great choices!
Old 12-19-2014, 07:15 AM
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Yes there is!

There is actually many other turbines in that class that I would compare. The 80SE is really an outdated design. I would add Jetmunts, wren and I have heard a good report from Evojets.

If Jetcat should be compared to the K100, you should consider the P-100RX.
Old 12-19-2014, 07:29 AM
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Would like something that does 200, can land on something as small as a 400 foot strip and look like a real plane.[/QUOTE]

good luck on that, ,
Old 12-19-2014, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by raron455
Would like something that does 200, can land on something as small as a 400 foot strip and look like a real plane.
good luck on that, ,[/QUOTE]

It's possible. My home field is 400ft. Skymasters small viper with a K100 would probably fit the bill. A 1/8scale F-16 would but you need learn the airplane before you try to get it up and down in 400ft.

If you took away the real airplane part, a Flash would do it for sure.
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I am a member of three clubs and one has only 400 feet to land in. the others are 500 and 600 with long flat approach.

I just saw the P80 and Kingtech on the BVM site. I was comparing thrust and price. also trying to stay around 5000 or less. not going cheap on equipment, but the extreme jets and suitable turbines fit that bill for me. I always wanted an F-15 but the Skymaster ones look really old but might be ok. I would do the K-140 in it if would fit. The F-16 isnt bad but seems everyone has one or two. I do like the viper and not opposed to a fictional plane, just like the boomerang types.
Old 12-19-2014, 08:51 AM
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The skymaster F-15 is an excellent choice. It flys well and would be great for someone new. I actually think a 100 would not be ideal in the F-15. The 140 would be perfect. It will not likely be close to 200 though. It has a lot of drag. You are probably looking at about 170mph. My buddy has one with a 30lb thrust turbine in it. He really likes it.
Old 12-19-2014, 09:06 AM
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Kingtech all the way. I had a P80se and now its a Kingtech. The service from KT is just too good. I gave up on JC
Old 12-19-2014, 11:01 AM
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Service would be an important factor, if you ask the right questions you will find out quickly who keeping their engine owners happy and who isn't. (you may be surprised by the answers)
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ok thanks sounds good then. which skymast F-15 is that one with 30lb thrust? the Extreme one with 56" wing?
Old 12-19-2014, 12:59 PM
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I was very, very happy with my Kingtech K-100G and K-60G...great price, great support, just good folks all the way around to deal with.

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Whatever brand you get, it might be wise to ensure that you are not getting a first run of new production model. It appears to me it takes several months and a couple revs of ECU software to get the bugs ironed out. I do like the small size, weight and cost of the K-100 and it's all internal components, etc.. Also, the ECU is mostly end-user programmable, However, it's thrust is down a bit from the P-90 RXi that I currently have.That would be the hangup, for me. Comparatively, for me, the service for JC and Kingtech is a wash. I would have to ship either away for at least a couple weeks.
Old 12-19-2014, 01:45 PM
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Nothing but Kingtech for this pilot. Bulletproof and great service.
Old 12-19-2014, 03:48 PM
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Hi,

It's true the P-80SE is an old design. It's kind of big and doesn't have the modern bling like internal solenoids, but it's still a VERY good engine. The reliability, cool running temps, quiet operation and good Jet Cat electronics make it a good engine any way you slice it.
Old 12-19-2014, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by airraptor
ok thanks sounds good then. which skymast F-15 is that one with 30lb thrust? the Extreme one with 56" wing?

Yep... good airplane
Old 12-19-2014, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowAircraft
Hi,

It's true the P-80SE is an old design. It's kind of big and doesn't have the modern bling like internal solenoids, but it's still a VERY good engine. The reliability, cool running temps, quiet operation and good Jet Cat electronics make it a good engine any way you slice it.
Still very good engine..... sure is!

Best choice with what's available...... No, in my opinion,

If you are good with the 80SE's larger size and heavier install.... You might as well go with the 90Rxi. At least you get a little more thrust for the other disadvantages.

Heck.... it's not even the cheapest choice. I really can't see why you would buy a 80SE new from the factory in today's market.
Old 12-19-2014, 08:55 PM
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Actually the fastest scale jet witch will fly grate ,very fast and short landings it's the skymaster jas gripen will for sure go close to 200mph and land short and sllow with the k-100g
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Old 12-19-2014, 10:33 PM
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lots of choices but i might be leaning to the Skymaster Extreme F-20 and K-140. I will call BVM and talk to them also.
Old 12-20-2014, 03:52 AM
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If you are thinking 140, I think Jet Central Cheetah is one of the best.

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