a great loss to kingtech!!!
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After 47+ years on this earth and dealing with many companies I have learned that it is sometimes better to take the high road (even if you are in the right) and just keep your mouth shut. It does nothing to air your personal business to the public forum because even if you are the person who is right it still makes you look petty. I have done business with both companies and have no complaints regarding either.
What really bothered me was the way Todd presented this choice on Facebook. It was nothing but a long winded rhetoric with no practical information and reason. He was trying to sound holier than god and it really bothered me for some reason. Understand that I've got hundreds of orders through Dreamworks without issue and I love the company. This is the first time I've found something that really irked me. I love Dreamworks but in this case I am not on his side. Kingtech has been nothing but gold to me since my first to my present engine. Barry has bent over backwards when I had one small issue and it's been smooth sailing ever since.
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Plane Jim, sorry you feel this way, but it is what it is and in the meanwhile, we wish Dreamworks well and will continue to do what we do best - Keeping Every KingTech Flying!
Best Regards,
Barry
Best Regards,
Barry
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Hi,
Pardon my attempt at comic relief, but I think Big D has it right. The rest is just cause for wincing. The people involved are good people and I hope everyone can move on positively.
Pardon my attempt at comic relief, but I think Big D has it right. The rest is just cause for wincing. The people involved are good people and I hope everyone can move on positively.
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Well then, maybe they'll be "reunited" in the near future???
Hope so. I think it behooves both parties to iron things out and stay "partners" with regards to selling and supporting KingTech turbines.
S
Hope so. I think it behooves both parties to iron things out and stay "partners" with regards to selling and supporting KingTech turbines.
S
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#37
Wow, I just wonder what did you do to make Barry bent over backwards for your small issue, he don't even repair my turbine when Dreamworks sent to him on 4/26/2015!!!! Can you help?
#39
Barry retaliate Kingtech turbine owner
Dear Barry
This email is to hopefully work out a reasonable settlement between you and I for the repair of my K80G turbine engine, which was shipped to you by your Dealer, Dreamworks, from Florida on 4/26/2015.
This is my recollection our phone conversation on May 6, 2015 at 3:23 PM:
You called me, on the date and time stated above, to explain how Kingtech operates their business, and the reason for why my turbine did not get repaired in a timely manner. You originally said is due to lack of parts in stock. At the time, I did acknowledge and understand your explanation for the delay and felt it was reasonable. However, during our last phone conversation I could clearly sense in your tone that you were very upset. You yelled at me over the phone and accused me of "...going around to buy parts from DreamWorks...," and that I "...purchased and acquired a couple turbines from another dealers." This accusation was absolutely unfounded and untrue. Because of what you accused me of --which again is absolutely untrue--you unjustly and unfairly decided to terminate all dealings with me and refused to service to my turbine engine, which you were under contract to service. I strongly disagree with the way you handled the situation, how you terminated our working relationship, and how unfairly you treated me as a customer. As a friendly gesture, I even asked you again to finish the repair of my turbine and even offered to pay for the parts and labor myself. But, you refused and suggested that I should completely drop the Kingtech product and go with different brand. I didn't want to go with a different brand and wanted to amiably work out the situation with you. However, you left me with no choice so I told you that "I have no problems doing that (changing to a different brand)." Again, I only said that because I was forced to and you gave me no other option.
Now, in order for me to stop using my Kingtech turbine engine and go with different brand, I request that you agree to one of the two options below. I believe that this is reasonable and fair.
1) Kingtech complete the repair of my turbine and return it in good running condition, in the timely manner.
Or
2) Kingtech will buy back my turbine at market value, so I can buy another turbine from a different brand.
Please let me know of your decision within five working days to avoid any legal action.
Thank you,
Anthony Hoang
Hi Vera,
I forwarded you an email from Linda at Dreamworks, she was shipping my K80 ser#1150 with ECU and pump to you for repair, you should received on the Monday 4-27-2015, when you done with the repair please email, text or call me at xxxxxxxxx and I'll come and pick it up from you do not ship since I'm local.
Tracking UPS 1ZA4W2163973752695.
Thank you
Anthony
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
Dear Barry
This email is to hopefully work out a reasonable settlement between you and I for the repair of my K80G turbine engine, which was shipped to you by your Dealer, Dreamworks, from Florida on 4/26/2015.
This is my recollection our phone conversation on May 6, 2015 at 3:23 PM:
You called me, on the date and time stated above, to explain how Kingtech operates their business, and the reason for why my turbine did not get repaired in a timely manner. You originally said is due to lack of parts in stock. At the time, I did acknowledge and understand your explanation for the delay and felt it was reasonable. However, during our last phone conversation I could clearly sense in your tone that you were very upset. You yelled at me over the phone and accused me of "...going around to buy parts from DreamWorks...," and that I "...purchased and acquired a couple turbines from another dealers." This accusation was absolutely unfounded and untrue. Because of what you accused me of --which again is absolutely untrue--you unjustly and unfairly decided to terminate all dealings with me and refused to service to my turbine engine, which you were under contract to service. I strongly disagree with the way you handled the situation, how you terminated our working relationship, and how unfairly you treated me as a customer. As a friendly gesture, I even asked you again to finish the repair of my turbine and even offered to pay for the parts and labor myself. But, you refused and suggested that I should completely drop the Kingtech product and go with different brand. I didn't want to go with a different brand and wanted to amiably work out the situation with you. However, you left me with no choice so I told you that "I have no problems doing that (changing to a different brand)." Again, I only said that because I was forced to and you gave me no other option.
Now, in order for me to stop using my Kingtech turbine engine and go with different brand, I request that you agree to one of the two options below. I believe that this is reasonable and fair.
1) Kingtech complete the repair of my turbine and return it in good running condition, in the timely manner.
Or
2) Kingtech will buy back my turbine at market value, so I can buy another turbine from a different brand.
Please let me know of your decision within five working days to avoid any legal action.
Thank you,
Anthony Hoang
Hi Vera,
I forwarded you an email from Linda at Dreamworks, she was shipping my K80 ser#1150 with ECU and pump to you for repair, you should received on the Monday 4-27-2015, when you done with the repair please email, text or call me at xxxxxxxxx and I'll come and pick it up from you do not ship since I'm local.
Tracking UPS 1ZA4W2163973752695.
Thank you
Anthony
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
From: Linda Delgado
Date: April 22, 2015 at 10:27:05 AM PDT
To: "[email protected]"
Subject: Kingtech Turbine
Date: April 22, 2015 at 10:27:05 AM PDT
To: "[email protected]"
Subject: Kingtech Turbine
Anthony - Todd has replaced the ECU, it was defective. But he is saying that your engine is not working correctly because the Burner is not working.
This will have to go to Kingtech for Repair. I can ship it to them from here, but you will have to let Vera know it is coming.
Let me know,
Linda
This will have to go to Kingtech for Repair. I can ship it to them from here, but you will have to let Vera know it is coming.
Let me know,
Linda
Last edited by try3d; 05-08-2015 at 11:12 AM.
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Barry retaliate Kingtech turbine owner
Dear Barry
This email is to hopefully work out a reasonable settlement between you and I for the repair of my K80G turbine engine, which was shipped to you by your Dealer, Dreamworks, from Florida on 4/26/2015.
This is my recollection our phone conversation on May 6, 2015 at 3:23 PM:
You called me, on the date and time stated above, to explain how Kingtech operates their business, and the reason for why my turbine did not get repaired in a timely manner. You originally said is due to lack of parts in stock. At the time, I did acknowledge and understand your explanation for the delay and felt it was reasonable. However, during our last phone conversation I could clearly sense in your tone that you were very upset. You yelled at me over the phone and accused me of "...going around to buy parts from DreamWorks...," and that I "...purchased and acquired a couple turbines from another dealers." This accusation was absolutely unfounded and untrue. Because of what you accused me of --which again is absolutely untrue--you unjustly and unfairly decided to terminate all dealings with me and refused to service to my turbine engine, which you were under contract to service. I strongly disagree with the way you handled the situation, how you terminated our working relationship, and how unfairly you treated me as a customer. As a friendly gesture, I even asked you again to finish the repair of my turbine and even offered to pay for the parts and labor myself. But, you refused and suggested that I should completely drop the Kingtech product and go with different brand. I didn't want to go with a different brand and wanted to amiably work out the situation with you. However, you left me with no choice so I told you that "I have no problems doing that (changing to a different brand)." Again, I only said that because I was forced to and you gave me no other option.
Now, in order for me to stop using my Kingtech turbine engine and go with different brand, I request that you agree to one of the two options below. I believe that this is reasonable and fair.
1) Kingtech complete the repair of my turbine and return it in good running condition, in the timely manner.
Or
2) Kingtech will buy back my turbine at market value, so I can buy another turbine from a different brand.
Please let me know of your decision within five working days to avoid any legal action.
Thank you,
Anthony Hoang
Dear Barry
This email is to hopefully work out a reasonable settlement between you and I for the repair of my K80G turbine engine, which was shipped to you by your Dealer, Dreamworks, from Florida on 4/26/2015.
This is my recollection our phone conversation on May 6, 2015 at 3:23 PM:
You called me, on the date and time stated above, to explain how Kingtech operates their business, and the reason for why my turbine did not get repaired in a timely manner. You originally said is due to lack of parts in stock. At the time, I did acknowledge and understand your explanation for the delay and felt it was reasonable. However, during our last phone conversation I could clearly sense in your tone that you were very upset. You yelled at me over the phone and accused me of "...going around to buy parts from DreamWorks...," and that I "...purchased and acquired a couple turbines from another dealers." This accusation was absolutely unfounded and untrue. Because of what you accused me of --which again is absolutely untrue--you unjustly and unfairly decided to terminate all dealings with me and refused to service to my turbine engine, which you were under contract to service. I strongly disagree with the way you handled the situation, how you terminated our working relationship, and how unfairly you treated me as a customer. As a friendly gesture, I even asked you again to finish the repair of my turbine and even offered to pay for the parts and labor myself. But, you refused and suggested that I should completely drop the Kingtech product and go with different brand. I didn't want to go with a different brand and wanted to amiably work out the situation with you. However, you left me with no choice so I told you that "I have no problems doing that (changing to a different brand)." Again, I only said that because I was forced to and you gave me no other option.
Now, in order for me to stop using my Kingtech turbine engine and go with different brand, I request that you agree to one of the two options below. I believe that this is reasonable and fair.
1) Kingtech complete the repair of my turbine and return it in good running condition, in the timely manner.
Or
2) Kingtech will buy back my turbine at market value, so I can buy another turbine from a different brand.
Please let me know of your decision within five working days to avoid any legal action.
Thank you,
Anthony Hoang
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Please allow me to quote what Kristopher and Dirk said in their posts to remind Barry the good words that Krstopher and Dirk said about him, I wish that he should listen to them and treat every customer equally.
Kristopher said: "If your engine is broke Barry and Dirk will do what ever it takes to make it right."
Dirk said: "Kingtech WILL, continue to give the best Sale, Service and best Tech support like we ALWAYS have in the past, regardless where you buy the TURBINE!!"
I was wonder is this the Honesty and Deceit that Barry was talking about?
Kristopher said: "If your engine is broke Barry and Dirk will do what ever it takes to make it right."
Dirk said: "Kingtech WILL, continue to give the best Sale, Service and best Tech support like we ALWAYS have in the past, regardless where you buy the TURBINE!!"
I was wonder is this the Honesty and Deceit that Barry was talking about?
Last edited by try3d; 05-08-2015 at 11:48 AM.
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For anyone reading, I just want to pipe in on my experience with Barry and Kingtech,,
I bought a brand new Kingtech K-210 from Barry last year at Christmas for my brand new 1/6 skymaster f16. Once I had the Jet going, I had multiple flameouts, I called him multiple times to try and figure out why, the times I did not get ahold of him, he would call me back. He was always very helpful, walking me thru the GSU data and explaining what the data showed, he was leading to the flameout being a problem on my end somewhere, never really coming out and saying it, but hinting at it. He informed me if I had worries send the turbine back to him and he would go over it from front to back. My last flameout #7 was it, I removed the turbine and sent it to him. He called and left a very descriptive voicemail telling me they got it, when it would be worked on, who would work on it, and when sent back. While he had it, I swapped to a BVM high flow Uat and re-located it where I could see it, and replumbed the jet. He stated they ran it multiple times found no problem. The work was done when he said, the turbine was sent back when he said. I got the turbine back in, and now have 12 flights on the jet and my 210 runs flawless, there is no more flameout issue. I believe Barry was correct the whole time, something was wrong with my plumbing setup to the turbine somewhere. My point is this, Barry has been nothing but professional to me, and provided excellent customer service, and his reputation for that is known very well among Kingtech Owners..
I bought a brand new Kingtech K-210 from Barry last year at Christmas for my brand new 1/6 skymaster f16. Once I had the Jet going, I had multiple flameouts, I called him multiple times to try and figure out why, the times I did not get ahold of him, he would call me back. He was always very helpful, walking me thru the GSU data and explaining what the data showed, he was leading to the flameout being a problem on my end somewhere, never really coming out and saying it, but hinting at it. He informed me if I had worries send the turbine back to him and he would go over it from front to back. My last flameout #7 was it, I removed the turbine and sent it to him. He called and left a very descriptive voicemail telling me they got it, when it would be worked on, who would work on it, and when sent back. While he had it, I swapped to a BVM high flow Uat and re-located it where I could see it, and replumbed the jet. He stated they ran it multiple times found no problem. The work was done when he said, the turbine was sent back when he said. I got the turbine back in, and now have 12 flights on the jet and my 210 runs flawless, there is no more flameout issue. I believe Barry was correct the whole time, something was wrong with my plumbing setup to the turbine somewhere. My point is this, Barry has been nothing but professional to me, and provided excellent customer service, and his reputation for that is known very well among Kingtech Owners..
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