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Old 06-08-2015, 07:55 AM
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I flew one of these a few years back with a 12S electric setup and it flew quite nicely as long as I kept the speed up. I think part of the control issues may be the high wing loading versus what the plane was originally designed for. When my fan came loose (my own fault) the plane literally descended like a rock and I couldn't even flare enough to avoid major damage landing in the grass. I think my weight was at least 15+ lbs.

I sure would like to see this A-7 or preferably one larger be successful. This particular camo scheme is close to my heart since I flew the full scale (same tail number) years ago in Vietnam.

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Old 06-08-2015, 08:56 AM
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John,

Yeah, we are a little spoiled out here in SoCal I hate to say. Usually calm in the mornings with winds in the afternoon, but not usually too unmanageable.


Craig,

That was a bummer for sure, I still remember hearing about it. I hear you on the wing loading, the airplane does do better (especially landing) at lighter weights for sure. If we were to do this airplane again from the ground up, the EDF version would have been purposely designed around a high power 90mm fan...at least that's the direction I would push for. That's what I'm flying mine with now and it's about perfect. It's a lighter installation (my VA-72 weight is about 14.5 lb with 5800 mah 12s packs and brakes) and the flight times are really good. At the time we designed the ARF, the 90mm fans weren't pushing the power that they are now and so it wouldn't have pushed the airplane around as well in comparison. Live and learn I suppose.

Unfortunately, I don't expect that these will ever be available again.
Old 06-08-2015, 10:45 AM
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Chris

If you want any I think Dave Wilde still has some untouched A7 kits.

http://www.colchestera1models.co.uk/...product_id=454

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Old 06-08-2015, 02:16 PM
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John, do you know if the 714 euros price included the gear? I might have to order one :-)
Old 06-08-2015, 05:53 PM
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I believe it's 714 in British Pounds which is a higher exchange than the Euro. I did the conversion and it's just over a grand in our dollar.
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http://youtu.be/PkfbDDNGvWU Here is mine from its hay day
Old 06-08-2015, 10:46 PM
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Yes I believe the price includes retracts, and a tank, but you had better check to be sure.

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Package from Tam showed up. Its one pretty pipe!

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Old 06-09-2015, 11:49 AM
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Got the pipe installed and turbine mounts lined up. Just waiting on receiver and tanks to show up and I can get this plane done.

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Old 06-09-2015, 06:04 PM
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Hey Kris, nice effort! I think you are going to like it.
For "scale points".......or just to impress old A-7 pilots .....the inside of the tail cone area was painted in "chromate yellow", kind of a mustard yellow.
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Old 06-10-2015, 04:20 AM
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Thanks Mike! I have some zinc chromate here at work I could shoot inside their when I get some time

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Hey Kris, nice effort! I think you are going to like it.
For "scale points".......or just to impress old A-7 pilots .....the inside of the tail cone area was painted in "chromate yellow", kind of a mustard yellow.
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Old 06-17-2015, 02:44 PM
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More work done. I was able to fit a 40oz fuel tank and a Kingtech UAT. Starting on the electronics install now.
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Old 06-17-2015, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gunradd
More work done. I was able to fit a 40oz fuel tank and a Kingtech UAT. Starting on the electronics install now.
40 Oz should be more than enough. I am getting 8 minute flights with the K45 on the glider using plenty of throttle with 2 20 oz dubro tanks. I do not use any UAT as with a pleated paper filter they are not necessary.

Might be a good idea to set the timer at 6 mins, land and see what you have left in the tank.

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Old 06-18-2015, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Jgwright
40 Oz should be more than enough. I am getting 8 minute flights with the K45 on the glider using plenty of throttle with 2 20 oz dubro tanks. I do not use any UAT as with a pleated paper filter they are not necessary.

Might be a good idea to set the timer at 6 mins, land and see what you have left in the tank.

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John thanks for the info! I was worried if 40oz was going to be enough sounds like it will be fine.
Old 06-18-2015, 06:06 AM
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Gun,

Looks like you're getting there! 40 oz I would think would be plenty. I can only gauge from the MW-44 gold I flew mine with, but I had 36 oz total and had plenty of flight time.
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Thanks Chris.

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Old 06-18-2015, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by gunradd
Thanks Chris.

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Looking good Gun. Any idea yet what the all up weight will be?
Old 06-18-2015, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CraigG
Looking good Gun. Any idea yet what the all up weight will be?
I dont have a scale here at work. Will try and remember to bring one in or weigh it when I bring it back home. One step closer now. Tested the fuel system and took the aircraft out and did some engine runs. Simply learn RC and prime the engine and its done. Engine ran great love the new K45.

I can tell you for a plane this size feels kind of heavy to me. Should be fine though.

Also going to use the new Xicoy spektrum telemetry on this bird. Still need to install a gyro also when I get some time.
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Mine was 12ish lb dry and about 14.5 lb fully fueled with the MW-44. IT currently weighs 14.5 lb with the 90mm EDF and 12s 5800.
Old 06-21-2015, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CraigG
Looking good Gun. Any idea yet what the all up weight will be?
Craig I finally weighed it. Was surprised its only about 11 and a half pounds with empty tanks and full UAT.
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Originally Posted by gunradd
Craig I finally weighed it. Was surprised its only about 11 and a half pounds with empty tanks and full UAT.
Nice! My EDF version was 12lbs before I added the pylons and cockpit, it landed awesome at that weight. You should be golden!
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Originally Posted by bri6672
Nice! My EDF version was 12lbs before I added the pylons and cockpit, it landed awesome at that weight. You should be golden!
+1 That's one big advantage with the turbine over electric...you get to land at a lighter weight and with some jets (like this one), that's a big deal. I might have to reconsider this jet with turbine power. Looking forward to your flight report.
Old 06-21-2015, 04:50 PM
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Craig you might have trouble finding of these A7's
Old 06-23-2015, 06:00 PM
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Kris, I hope you don't mind my asking this question but since the A-7's are hard to come by (and I don't have one), how about the K-45 in a JHH F-9 Cougar (which I have NIB) or a JHH A-4 (which I also have)?

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Old 06-23-2015, 09:25 PM
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I have the pipe on order along with some other odds and ends. I will use regular dubro fuel tanks. The plane already has electric gear from down and locked. Will install a spektrum receiver along with a eagle tree gyro.


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