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Old 06-19-2015, 03:59 AM
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Default Brake Valve Recommendations/Reviews

I am ready to upgrade my brake valve and it seems all the feedback points to about 3 or 4. Other than the obvious, it seems a few only have a "true power off brake" Which seems to be the mechanical plunger types.

Any electronic valves working well out there that you guys like? When you turn off receiver power do they hold?

Just looking to read some feedback on what your experiences are.

BVM Smooth stop version 2
Xicoy
Jet Tronic
BLAH BLAH?

Thoughts?
Old 06-19-2015, 04:58 AM
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No experience with xicoy but the other 2 have been fine for me.

You can add The UP brake valve which is damn near bullet proof.

You can also try the E-brake from BVM. A buddy has good things to say about its performance.
Old 06-19-2015, 05:44 AM
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Im ready tu pull the switch on the Jet Tronic low loss valve, everyone seems to like it.

But I will be honest, my best brake valve has been the one built into the EV5. I use it in intermittent mode and it is sooooo smoooth!

David
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I've used the 3 you have listed. just depends what you want. I don't think any of the electric ones hold when you turn them off, I've never tried. I like the SS for my scale jets, and I really like the xicoy, cheap, light, easy to set up, and work great.
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you cannot beat a UP-6 valve
Old 06-19-2015, 10:22 AM
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I agree with Buck, the UP6 is the best servo driven brake valve on the market. It will give you proportional braking with the lowest air pressure.
Old 06-19-2015, 10:23 AM
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UP 6 all the way for me.

The F16 has a electronic one and right before one of the practice flights at Topgun it decided it wanted to stay engaged. On take off noticed right away but ended up breaking a missile rail and had to fix . Took airplane back to pits and pushed the manual button on top a few times and it started working and has been fine since. But 2 times now its randomly decided to stick on.

Had an old smooth stop but never really liked it. Might have just been to old and not worked right.

UP6 has a great feel to it and simply works flawless every time.
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same here. UP-6 works great.
Old 06-19-2015, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by yeahbaby
You can also try the E-brake from BVM. A buddy has good things to say about its performance.
Bought one of the BVM E-brakes recently and I am very happy with it's performance. Fully proportional and no airtanks . Stops my 16 pound F-86 on a 300 foot fabric runway with 100 feet to spare.
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I have a few xicoys and jet tronics (reg and low loss) they all work flawless but you can't beat the Xicoy for the price and Gaspar is great with support and programming questions. I'm not a fan of the mechanical ones, electric are simple and weigh nothing.
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I've got a Jet-tronics and it has always worked and never leaked but the proportional mode is not as good as the UP6 IMO (which also never leaks). But you are right, the UP valves do add some weight which depending on the jet may be no issue if it needs nose weight as you typically put them up front.
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One of my jets had the Jet Tronic valve. It worked fine for many years (5 +). When it stopped working, I replaced it with a simple on/off valve that I happen to have lying around (I think It was $ 12 from Tamjets). Figured this would be a temporary fix .... but it's still in there ( 3 years later) and works better than I thought it ever would. I use a little grease on the brake wheel o-rings to soften the stop.

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The BVM e-Brake V2 is a great unit. It produces from 0 to 65 Lbs. of air pressure at full and is totally proportional.. There is no air tank or associated fittings, filler or pressure gauge required.
They will operate any and all of the brakes from BVM, Skymaster and many other brands.
BV has one in his new Fly Navy Ultra Bandit, and it does a great job.
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Behotec combination retract and brake valve...they work and never leak.
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Originally Posted by Harley Condra
The BVM e-Brake V2 is a great unit. It produces from 0 to 65 Lbs. of air pressure at full and is totally proportional.. There is no air tank or associated fittings, filler or pressure gauge required.
They will operate any and all of the brakes from BVM, Skymaster and many other brands.
BV has one in his new Fly Navy Ultra Bandit, and it does a great job.
Hi Harley
Do know if the Bvm brake system would work with Robart 6" wheels and brakes?? The jet will be about 35lbs dry.
Thx Vin...
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Originally Posted by FenderBean
you cannot beat a UP-6 valve
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Originally Posted by Vincent
Hi Harley
Do know if the Bvm brake system would work with Robart 6" wheels and brakes?? The jet will be about 35lbs dry.
Thx Vin...
Hey Vinny

John Redman is using one on a twin BVM Rafale. I just weighed my single version with a buddies xicoy cg machine and its 33 lbs empty. No batteries or gas in UAT. Give him a jingle. He said to keep Ebrake as close as possible to main brakes.
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Originally Posted by yeahbaby
Hey Vinny

John Redman is using one on a twin BVM Rafale. I just weighed my single version with a buddies xicoy cg machine and its 33 lbs empty. No batteries or gas in UAT. Give him a jingle. He said to keep Ebrake as close as possible to main brakes.
Hey Buck ok thx I'll check with john
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UP 6 in all my planes.
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Another vote for Bvm ebrake2. Keep the lines as short as possible and remove all lubrication from the wheels. Works great.
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Originally Posted by cyphur01
Another vote for Bvm ebrake2. Keep the lines as short as possible and remove all lubrication from the wheels. Works great.
If there is any type of air escaping thru the brakes or where ever, the bvm brake will work only on one stroke and that will be it for braking? does that sound right?
thx Vin...
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Ambient Air is trapped in the cylinder and system when the servo fully extends the arm. (brake off). That air is then compressed. You can put it on a slider, and it will either compress that air or take it away to your hearts content. I believe the servo needs to be fully off to draw air in. You must have full throws described in the instructions or it will not brake properly. I have my momentary button on my dx18 (I) setup with a mix to provide slow down braking for turns as well as the slider.

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I have an airpower ev-1u and I do not like it. Its not proportional at all. it does do pulsing but its like slaming on the brakes then letting off then slamming again etc..
Maybe a pressure regulator is needed but that still sucks.

everytime I taxi around my taxi tank ends up flying off the jet if I have to stop.

Up6 is good but they do leak sometimes after sitting. Gotta keep an eye on it but that is the only complaint.
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Originally Posted by cyphur01
Ambient Air is trapped in the cylinder and system when the servo fully extends the arm. (brake off). That air is then compressed. You can put it on a slider, and it will either compress that air or take it away to your hearts content. I believe the servo needs to be fully off to draw air in. You must have full throws described in the instructions or it will not brake properly. I have my momentary button on my dx18 (I) setup with a mix to provide slow down braking for turns as well as the slider.
What size wheels and brakes are you running and what type of jet model??
thx Vin...
Old 06-22-2015, 09:18 AM
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Ultra Bandit, Large skymaster Viper, bobcat. I would put it on my BVM f-16 but the valve that came with it is working well. Let me reiterate my last post. There is a hole on the cylinder where a nipple would normally go. That is where the air enters the system. As the servo pushes the piston past this hole, the air in the cylinder is trapped in the system. When you let the brakes off, the piston goes past the hole and allows all air to escape. It will lock up my tires if I want it to and is fully proportional with a small curved mix.

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