BlueBus320

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The ones I know of are:
Danny D: has flown
Craig S (RIP): has flown
Guy in France: has flown
Doug B: has flown
Amir: has flown
Anton Lin: has flown
myself: rtf w JB220
Sal A: building

Thats all all I can think of off the top of my head.
Jay

P.S. Mine was built by NirlyBuilt, & Nir documented the build pretty well on FaceBook.

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my new Hawk 100 1/3.65 just finish the paint job, after long holiday that i will install the P-200RX and test fly.,

jsnipes

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For those of you flying yours...
- what weight did you end up at (dry)?
- what CG did you end up finding best ... Xicoy CG machine numbers even better.
- what degree flaps are you using for landing?
- what power setting are you using for final/landing? I was told by Craig South (RIP!) that for normal glide slope he was at idle thrust for all of final and flare ... if he held some power he would over shoot ... is everyone experiencing this?

Close to maiden on mine!

Jamie

BlueBus320

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Did u get the flap-mod memo?

jws_aces

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Jamie,

One big piece of advice is don't use too much flap. I was standing next to the pilot that bought Danny's hawk with the wing tips. He put full flaps in and it went heading into the death dive. I realized it and flip the flaps up for him and it disappeared behind the hill at KY jets. It came back because he was still trying to break off the stick pulling back on it.

This was a well known problem on the 1/5th size hawks were guys were putting the flaps to full on downwind with a lot of speed and the jet nose diving into the ground with no control. I am pretty sure there are still some YouTube videos out there of that.

It's a well document problem. You have the fins in front of the elevators that we install on later models (real ones) of the hawk to help keep air flowing on the stabs during flap deployment. So yours should be less likely to experience it. I know of at least two of the comp arfs like mine that were believed to have been lost due to the flaps deploying to far. British Aerospace Engineering that developed and built real one put out an AD for the real hawks not to deploy them beyond 50 degrees.

So be careful and ready when you go to full flaps. keep the speed down when deploying them. See you in a couple of weeks.

wishing nothing but great success with your maiden.

jsnipes

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Thanks, Jeff. I've read about not using too much flap and not to deploy at a high airspeed ... just curious what people are using on the SM 1/3.65 with success. I was thinking to start with 30 deg?? for landing config but be ready to pull em up if hard nose down occurs.

BlueBus ... I don't know that I know of the flap mod that you mention. What is it? I know on mine the outer section of the "sub flap" if thats the right term has been removed but that was done from factory. I think that was done on the real one to increase the air flow to the stab??

JS

jws_aces

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Yes 30 should be safe. The slat in the middle is shorten like you said to allow air to the stabs. I thought the SM hawk was cut like yours. The comp arfs are not. looking forward to seeing it in the air. Of course you have done a wonderful detail job.

BlueBus320

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Doug was flying his full flaps at only 25mm, & sounds like you're all set with the Flap-mod. Mine did not come like that from the factory.
Please give a flight review! I am considering upgrading my JB-220 to a Kingtech 310 (68lb thrust), but idk, I really like it as light as possible.
Jay

jsnipes

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Here's mine from the factory ...

jsnipes

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Vespino67 ... here is the photo of Craig South's elevator neutral position. I will set mine similarly for maiden flight and I'm also using his Xicoy CG settings which he said were a little nose heavy but a safe place to start.

jsnipes

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PBS 230N in mine ... seemed to push Craig's really well. I'll report back after my maiden. Should be in two weeks if all goes well between now and then.

JS

jws_aces

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I agree with Jamie. I flew with Craig at KY jets and GA jets. His had plenty of power. The PBS was plenty. there is a couple of videos of Craigs at GA jet field. Search for his name Craig South and Skymaster hawk. You will see what Jamie is talking about.

Now I am a big time kingtech fan so If I do every get around to doing a hawk 100 SM I will more than likely install a 300g in it.

RIP ;( My new friend.

jsnipes

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Here are a few links to the videos that Jeff mentions of Craig's Hawk ...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQx37lVTygw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zEDnFoyxpN0
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I7dIaoPlEEU

Man, I am still in shock about Craig. Great guy and friend. RIP.

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smaze17

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Are you guys planning on/using wing vortex's?

David Gladwin

You should ! All three of my Hawks have the VGs set at the correct angle, ( about 15 degrees, otherwise they are a waste of time) no problems with any flap setting.

David.

(150 Model Hawk flights and a few in the real jet, a really delightful machine ! )

jsnipes

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Just got mine put on ...

BlueBus320

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I've seen Craig's videos, & it does seem fine. I do have the Hawk-100 with drop tanks though. I'll probably maiden With the 220. It seems to be about 50/50 on guys saying 50lb thrust is enough, most seem to believe it'd be nice to have more horses in the event of a go around, but with the low flap settings suggested, that probably won't be that big of a deal. It's a big pretty machine! Dwarfs my Skygate/CARF L-39. I also used Tailor-made pilots.. couldn't be more satisfied!😎
Jay

jsnipes

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Looks awesome, Jay! I almost went with the same scheme including the USAF markings instead of RSAF. I really like yours!! I assume you'll maiden when weather allows?

All of your throws and CG per the book?

Tomahawk pilots in mine.


JS

BlueBus320

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Yours looks awesome too Jamie. I was going to do Tomahawk pilots also, but their payment process is a little cumbersome, so went with Tailormade. I had my Hawk pro-built because I have young kids & have had another project that I'm building on the table going on 3yrs now..lol. So decided to get this one done... but the builder is not a Futaba guy & didn't know how to do the Powerbox with gear fail-safe, so although she is so called rtf, I need to spend a bit of time programming & going over every inch of the builders work. Between finishing my current project, & a massive home reno project, I'll be fortunate to get mine in the air this season.. but I'll try��

vespino67

Jamie

Thanks for the very useful information

jsnipes

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So ... I took the main wheels off for the first time today and was surprised by what I saw inside! Interesting design for sure.

Are these brakes lubricated like the BVM style brakes or do you run them with no lube?

Thanks,

Jamie

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Hey guys , yes I am still working on my 1/3 SM Hawk- servos are in the wings - photos coming soon- I have a few things on my Facebook page- glad to see some movement on the forum. Jamie stay In touch with your maiden flight- best of luck- I was with Amir on his maiden on the 100- it flew well-however was underpowered he thought - it had a jet central Mammoth - we are planning to install the new KINGTECH K 310 in both of ours. ill be posting photos over the weekend. so you know this is SAL APICE

pilot tw

maiden flight videos

https://www.facebook.com/10001216624...2906484458224/

https://www.facebook.com/10001216624...2906417791564/

https://www.facebook.com/10001216624...2906414458231/

smaze17

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Thanks David. Is there a template available to ensure the correct degree angle?