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Old 08-11-2015, 01:00 PM
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Default Ziroli Panther fiberglass fuse

Does anyone know if a fiberglass fuse for the ziroli panther is being produced by anyone? i want to build one using a glass fuse. Thanks ,WB_1
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Old 08-11-2015, 06:31 PM
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Joe Saitto used to make one. I think he still has the molds. I have one I built from his casting. He is sometimes here on the forums. I think he is B17Gjoe or something like that. He also makes a ME262 glass kit so you might be able to track him that way.
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Old 08-11-2015, 07:12 PM
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I think joes is a blown up size ziroli panther. Anyway here is his email b17gjoe@juno.com
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thanks guys .. i sent him a email,WB_1
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Old 08-12-2015, 07:10 AM
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PST Sells fiberglass virshions of the Ziroli Panther, you can try to get just the fuze from them and use a regular wook kit.

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so the PST is the same thing as the ziroli?
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Yes, for the most part. I started building that kit Mike showed. It is the exact dimensions as the Ziroli (which i built previously). The only really big difference i saw was the airfoil was different so if you order foam wings for the ziroli, they were off a bit..
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Originally Posted by NickC5FE View Post
Yes, for the most part. I started building that kit Mike showed. It is the exact dimensions as the Ziroli (which i built previously). The only really big difference i saw was the airfoil was different so if you order foam wings for the ziroli, they were off a bit..
i didn't think nick even offered foam cores for any of his planes. so if the foam cores are off what do you do scratch build them? and what do you think a fuse would cost? WB_1
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Old 08-12-2015, 01:19 PM
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Joe's is the exact size as a Zirolli. At least the formers on the Zirolli print fit inside the fuse. I built wood wings for mine fully sheeted and they are close to the weight a set of cores would generate.

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I have had both the fiberglas fuse Ziroli and the PST Panthers and can assure you they are the same except the canopy / hatch on the PST is two parts, whereas the Ziroli is one piece. On the Ziroli version the tail fin has to be built up from the stab to the top, too. I couldn't tell the difference in the airfoils, either........
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I built the one a few years ago. Here's a link to the build thread.
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Nick did not offer foam cores for his, but i used the wing templates to have cores made for mine and they were off by just a bit...
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joe responded to my email and gave me a complete price for everything . i thought it was reasonable, WB_1
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Hey guys Im finily Cought up on projects,

Anyways, I was thinking of getting foam wings and elevator for the Ziroli Panther as I have the Fiberglass Fuse,

As I understand Foam wings are stronger than Balsa and as I want to make this turbine it seems like it will be an easyer process.

What do you guys think foam vs Built up?
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Originally Posted by mikes68charger View Post
Hey guys Im finily Cought up on projects,

Anyways, I was thinking of getting foam wings and elevator for the Ziroli Panther as I have the Fiberglass Fuse,

As I understand Foam wings are stronger than Balsa and as I want to make this turbine it seems like it will be an easyer process.

What do you guys think foam vs Built up?
you'll have a nicer wing with no bumps or warps. i use zap's finishing resin/epoxy to glue the balsa skins on. works great and doesn't add a lot of weight. the contact cement system is dead to me. one thing you'll have to deal with is you use a wing tube is cutting good holes for a wing tube.
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The stock plans built wing is plenty strong enough for a turbine.Lighter that foam, too.The only thing I did was add a carbon fiber Vail under the 1/2 oz glass cloth for the finish. My wings could have been used for machetes, they were that strong.
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Old 02-22-2016, 11:02 AM
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What thickness carbonfiber did you use to laminate the wood formers inside the fuse?
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Does anyone have a fiberglass fuse they want to sell? if none here I will email Joe.

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Old 03-09-2017, 02:36 PM
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i only have the plans sorry
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Thanks...I sent Joe a note and I am not sure if he is still active but we will see.

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Mission Complete!!! Joe is in fact still active as of Mar 2017 and I have purchased a Fiberglass Fuse complete (Wood formers and other parts). Joe is trying to get it to me before 24 Mar 2017 and I am sure he can do it...............I have an old set of plans that came with the Wood built up kit I purchased here last week (60% complete) but the wing plans were missing. Easiest fix was to call Ziroli and order a new set of plans and tip tanks to correctly finish the built up kit. That package arrived on Saturday 11 Mar and the work will start this week.

Bottom line is the built up kit will have a STUMAX SM120 running a 12s battery setup (120 is a new addition to the STUMAX line) and the Fiberglass Panther (Glass Cat?) will have a NIB Jetcat P70 I have had since Bob Wilcox sold the last of 2 he had in stock back in 2011. Lots to follow especially with the refit and rebuild of the 17 year old built up kit. I hope those old glue joints hold!!!!
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