KingTech K180G Turbine Only! (ARF) From eaglen2fb Elgin , IL
11-03-2015, 03:06 PM
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Doesn't it bother anyone that someone could have a $3,000 turbine taken from their luggage and they "really had no time to start following up with claims and so forth"?
Ravill, you would try to get back a 10 cent Hobby King lipo but its OK to NOT try to get back a turbine? What's wrong with that logic.
As far as I see it Ali gave up possession when refused to try to get it back.
Ravill, you would try to get back a 10 cent Hobby King lipo but its OK to NOT try to get back a turbine? What's wrong with that logic.
As far as I see it Ali gave up possession when refused to try to get it back.
Not at all. Its all relative. And its all about time.
11-03-2015, 07:33 PM
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Ali. You have two years from the date of incident to file a claim.
Fill this out and mail it in. 5 min for a really good shot at collecting.
https://www.tsa.gov/sites/default/fi...ge_rev6_28.pdf.
The TSA probably saw the turbine on an xray and when they looked at it freaked out. Probably as their sniffer probably detected kerosene residue too after they pulled it out. File a claim. You will be reimbursed. People check complete models on airlines. In the context of it being by itself they didnt know what it was and didnt take the time to figure it out.
Fill this out and mail it in. 5 min for a really good shot at collecting.
https://www.tsa.gov/sites/default/fi...ge_rev6_28.pdf.
The TSA probably saw the turbine on an xray and when they looked at it freaked out. Probably as their sniffer probably detected kerosene residue too after they pulled it out. File a claim. You will be reimbursed. People check complete models on airlines. In the context of it being by itself they didnt know what it was and didnt take the time to figure it out.
11-03-2015, 08:04 PM
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Doesn't it bother anyone that someone could have a $3,000 turbine taken from their luggage and they "really had no time to start following up with claims and so forth"?
Ravill, you would try to get back a 10 cent Hobby King lipo but its OK to NOT try to get back a turbine? What's wrong with that logic.
As far as I see it Ali gave up possession when refused to try to get it back.
Ravill, you would try to get back a 10 cent Hobby King lipo but its OK to NOT try to get back a turbine? What's wrong with that logic.
As far as I see it Ali gave up possession when refused to try to get it back.
Well if someone is making $100-200 an hour and it takes 15-30hrs to maybe collect on your loss, your $3k item now has cost you $4500-6000. Makes sense to me that if you can Financially afford to cut your loses, you should. Does that mean its still not legally his, no.
Just because a crook steals my $200 honda and i decide its not worth spending $500 to get it out if impound doesnt mean its still not mine (yes i know about gov. Auctions, its just an example).
11-03-2015, 08:17 PM
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BLAH BLAH BLAH. When you walk away from a 200K house because you owe 400k on it, IT IS NO LONGER YOURS. If someone is making $200/hour in this hobby, you guys are paying way too much for those turbines.
11-03-2015, 08:19 PM
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Well if someone is making $100-200 an hour and it takes 15-30hrs to maybe collect on your loss, your $3k item now has cost you $4500-6000. Makes sense to me that if you can Financially afford to cut your loses, you should. Does that mean its still not legally his, no.
Just because a crook steals my $200 honda and i decide its not worth spending $500 to get it out if impound doesnt mean its still not mine (yes i know about gov. Auctions, its just an example).
Just because a crook steals my $200 honda and i decide its not worth spending $500 to get it out if impound doesnt mean its still not mine (yes i know about gov. Auctions, its just an example).
11-03-2015, 08:25 PM
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Autopilot1,
Why should it bother anyone including you, that Ali has moved on. He gave his reasons, he doesn't want the engine now and hasn't reached out to eaglen2fb about it. His only disappointment is that the engine was taken in the first place and that he has been accused of taking some insurance claim when he hasn't.
Barry also isn't asking for the engine. He has simply been consistent with his company's policy in regards to supporting customers who have bought Kingtech turbines.
All of this for some reason or other has ticked off eaglen2fb and yourself.
regards,
Lars
Why should it bother anyone including you, that Ali has moved on. He gave his reasons, he doesn't want the engine now and hasn't reached out to eaglen2fb about it. His only disappointment is that the engine was taken in the first place and that he has been accused of taking some insurance claim when he hasn't.
Barry also isn't asking for the engine. He has simply been consistent with his company's policy in regards to supporting customers who have bought Kingtech turbines.
All of this for some reason or other has ticked off eaglen2fb and yourself.
regards,
Lars
11-03-2015, 08:55 PM
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Eaglen2fb,
I was aware of this incident after it happened and had questions in the back of my mind. I also mentioned to Barry that I bet it shows up someday and WALLA here you are!! I attached the 2 tickets left in Ali's luggage for you to review after making Barry search through a crap load of Emails from over a year ago. I'm sure if this happened to anyone, and after reading the TSA tickets, I would have figured it was a total loss. The ticket clearly states that the item in question was deemed hazardous material and if you have a question call this #. Now most of us have had water bottles, mouthwash, shampoo etc taken at the screening point from our carry on's and they throw it in the trash right there at the counter?? Should I have made an insurance claim to get my shampoo back? If you had a ticket stating TSA confiscated a hazardous item / material from your suitcase, would you be raising all kinds of cane over it?? Or would you be thinking thinking I hope Homeland Security isn't going to be knocking on my door, thinking I was transporting a bomb or something and shoving a microscope up your a**?? Who in their right mind would be thinking "hey, I should make an insurance claim to AA to get reimbursed on my hazardous material I was transporting?" So, I called the TSA # on the ticket and asked what happens to items deemed hazardous and removed by TSA from luggage. Their response was they surrender it to that particular airline security and they never keep any items. Barry called AA as stated in the thread earlier and they say TSA keeps all items. I personally think some baggage handler has a pocket full of TSA confiscating tickets and is cherry picking luggage. They then have this so called charity auction ran by some family member making serious $$ and they hang up on you when questioned about a particular item. You keep asking about a insurance claim payoff made to Ali?? Should he have filed it on his auto, home or Hobby shop insurance?? How do you make a claim to your Insurance agent to recover TSA deemed hazardous material? Surely you can't ask to file a claim to the airline that just took the item because they thought it was a hazard to the flight?? I'm also curious and amazed how so many people on here have lawyers on speed dial. I am 50 YO, make well into 6 figures and never had a lawyer at my beckon call.....I must be missing the boat somewhere?? BTW, I hear John Redman had 2 Jetcats taken from his luggage recently, maybe they will show up at the same charity auction and you can buy those as well? I bet John would be happy to support his confiscated turbines!! Oh, and if you are a 30 yr hobbyist, I would hope you would have some integrity and do the right thing!! karma is a major ***** and what comes around goes around!!
Dirk Flejter
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I was aware of this incident after it happened and had questions in the back of my mind. I also mentioned to Barry that I bet it shows up someday and WALLA here you are!! I attached the 2 tickets left in Ali's luggage for you to review after making Barry search through a crap load of Emails from over a year ago. I'm sure if this happened to anyone, and after reading the TSA tickets, I would have figured it was a total loss. The ticket clearly states that the item in question was deemed hazardous material and if you have a question call this #. Now most of us have had water bottles, mouthwash, shampoo etc taken at the screening point from our carry on's and they throw it in the trash right there at the counter?? Should I have made an insurance claim to get my shampoo back? If you had a ticket stating TSA confiscated a hazardous item / material from your suitcase, would you be raising all kinds of cane over it?? Or would you be thinking thinking I hope Homeland Security isn't going to be knocking on my door, thinking I was transporting a bomb or something and shoving a microscope up your a**?? Who in their right mind would be thinking "hey, I should make an insurance claim to AA to get reimbursed on my hazardous material I was transporting?" So, I called the TSA # on the ticket and asked what happens to items deemed hazardous and removed by TSA from luggage. Their response was they surrender it to that particular airline security and they never keep any items. Barry called AA as stated in the thread earlier and they say TSA keeps all items. I personally think some baggage handler has a pocket full of TSA confiscating tickets and is cherry picking luggage. They then have this so called charity auction ran by some family member making serious $$ and they hang up on you when questioned about a particular item. You keep asking about a insurance claim payoff made to Ali?? Should he have filed it on his auto, home or Hobby shop insurance?? How do you make a claim to your Insurance agent to recover TSA deemed hazardous material? Surely you can't ask to file a claim to the airline that just took the item because they thought it was a hazard to the flight?? I'm also curious and amazed how so many people on here have lawyers on speed dial. I am 50 YO, make well into 6 figures and never had a lawyer at my beckon call.....I must be missing the boat somewhere?? BTW, I hear John Redman had 2 Jetcats taken from his luggage recently, maybe they will show up at the same charity auction and you can buy those as well? I bet John would be happy to support his confiscated turbines!! Oh, and if you are a 30 yr hobbyist, I would hope you would have some integrity and do the right thing!! karma is a major ***** and what comes around goes around!!
Dirk Flejter
KingTech Service
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11-03-2015, 09:25 PM
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Yep needed to talk to a lawyer and find out what my rights were, Have Barry call me Tomorrow and we will settle this i now have expenses added to this and if he covers that and shipping and what i paid i will send it back. Im not rich like you and make 6 figures you know.
As for claims to file a gentleman posted the proper forms to be filed on here half hours worth of work could have saved a ton of Bull****.
As for claims to file a gentleman posted the proper forms to be filed on here half hours worth of work could have saved a ton of Bull****.
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11-04-2015, 01:05 AM
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Seems like everyone concerned may be victims of a very poor airline.
11-04-2015, 04:37 AM
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This thread has run its course. Barry has indicated that eaglen2fb should take it up with Ali who has more ore less communicated that he has moved on, and eaglen2fb is stuck with a turbine he can't use.
eaglen2fb will try to sell the incomplete turbine and may get what he paid for it, perhaps a bit more. if someone buys it, they will likely be left with standing without a chair when the music stops.
Regards,
Lars
eaglen2fb will try to sell the incomplete turbine and may get what he paid for it, perhaps a bit more. if someone buys it, they will likely be left with standing without a chair when the music stops.
Regards,
Lars
