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Which Radio To Buy?!

Old 12-13-2015, 04:22 AM
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never been bothered with using telemetry as you should not really need to know that your batteries, radio, fuel system, turbine are doing as they should be checked and charged as part of your pre take off, if your model cannot stay in the air for 10 mins without going wrong then you need to go away and try again as you are liable for it if something was to go wrong.
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Old 12-13-2015, 05:48 AM
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I believe you mean Jeti DS-16. You should also include the DC16 with the DS16 ; same radio but DC-16 is the tray version. Could just say Jeti

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Old 12-13-2015, 06:38 AM
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Just for your information, Jeti is now full 24 channel radios system with extra 8 remote wireless commands (remote reset fuel flow sensor telemetry...)

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http://file.espritmodel.com/newsletter/2015123/

DC/DS-16: 24-Channels Multimode
The DC-16 and DS-16 now support up to 24 fully proportional and programmable channels. This expansion allows you to conveniently install multiple receivers or Central Boxes into a model without additional programming. By default, this feature is turned off. The transmitter enables it automatically as soon as any servo is assigned to any 17-24 channel (see the menu Model -> Servo Assignment). You can see the 24-Channel Multimode status in Advanced Properties -> Wireless Modes/Trainer.

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Old 12-13-2015, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dubd View Post
If I were to buy a Futaba radio today, it would be the 18SV at $1300. That wasn't an option when I bought the 18MZ years ago.
Possibly +1, but would have to check it out.
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Old 12-13-2015, 08:09 AM
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Some great posts here from very respected modelers. I personally own and use a JR12, Jeti 16 DS, Futaba 18mz, DX 18G2. Don't ask me why...long story...lol
I fly helis, jets and gliders.
If I had to own one all around radio it would now be the Jeti due to pricing, versatility, quality, programmability and telemetry. To the guy that says meh.. to telemetry then you need to fly
more to appreciate the info on hand ( ie EDF battery consumption in flight ). One warning from the tx can save you a $100 battery.
Anyway....do the research but better yet spend an hour or two with guys that actually have the tx you are considering.
One other thing...if you plan on flying some of the fun PNP Horizon stuff then splurge a few bucks and get a Spectrum just for the fun of it.

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Old 12-13-2015, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bluescoobydoo View Post
never been bothered with using telemetry as you should not really need to know that your batteries, radio, fuel system, turbine are doing as they should be checked and charged as part of your pre take off, if your model cannot stay in the air for 10 mins without going wrong then you need to go away and try again as you are liable for it if something was to go wrong.
Yep, don't need instruments in a full size aircraft either cause you should check it all on the ground and make sure it works first. Something will NEVER go wrong after it's left the ground. AND the RF link is always perfect so, you don't need to know if it's degrading.

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Old 12-13-2015, 08:58 AM
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lol....^^^^^^ great comment...
Clearly the guy doesn't fly much full size either.....:^)

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Old 12-13-2015, 11:12 AM
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Just as a point of clarification, support and service for Weatronics in the USA is not an issue and has been handled by Ultimate Jets out of Houston for a couple of years now. We are stocking both the radios and optional components like switches and knob options for the radio as well as the receivers and supporting modular systems utilizing the DV4 module. We can be found at www.ultimate-jets.net.

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Old 12-13-2015, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bluescoobydoo View Post
never been bothered with using telemetry as you should not really need to know that your batteries, radio, fuel system, turbine are doing as they should be checked and charged as part of your pre take off, if your model cannot stay in the air for 10 mins without going wrong then you need to go away and try again as you are liable for it if something was to go wrong.
sigh...Why do some arrogantly insist that if they don't perceive a need for something then no one else should either?

Certainly, warnings for fuel levels, voltages, flameouts etc have proven useful safety enhancements for some, and all of the pre takeoff checks in the world don't prevent some failures in the air.

Component failures aside, remember that not everyone flies turbine only.

Good telemetry is a game changer for electrics, as power consumption can vary widely from flight to flight and reliance upon timers exclusively leaves a lot to be desired. Some higher performance electrics can push temperature boundaries for the motor/ECU, and temperature data comes in handy there. Especially in warmer climates. Maybe not in the UK...but then again, one shouldn't presume to dictate what is and isn't useful in others' situations.
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I just wish the Spektrum guys would actually produce a "high end" radio. I've had the DX18 since it first came out and we own two QQ's. Never had a single glitch but I just wish I could get that 12X feeling again. That case, to me, has never been duplicated. The 18 performs perfectly yet feels like one of the radios you find in an RTF bundle. Maybe they're working on one in their top secret facility!
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Old 12-13-2015, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by patrnflyr View Post
I just wish the Spektrum guys would actually produce a "high end" radio. I've had the DX18 since it first came out and we own two QQ's. Never had a single glitch but I just wish I could get that 12X feeling again. That case, to me, has never been duplicated. The 18 performs perfectly yet feels like one of the radios you find in an RTF bundle. Maybe they're working on one in their top secret facility!
+1
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Old 12-13-2015, 04:07 PM
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As an electric Only flyer, having good telemetry is invaluable. Fly fast or slow it simply does not matter as you know the exact status of your packs and power system, allowing me to make longer flights and rest easy. Jeti telemetry is easy to implement and use. Simply add a sensor power up the system, and the radio populates the available values. Decide what you want to display,monitor, set alarms and logging for it is that simple.
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Old 12-13-2015, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by patrnflyr View Post
I just wish the Spektrum guys would actually produce a "high end" radio. I've had the DX18 since it first came out and we own two QQ's. Never had a single glitch but I just wish I could get that 12X feeling again. That case, to me, has never been duplicated. The 18 performs perfectly yet feels like one of the radios you find in an RTF bundle. Maybe they're working on one in their top secret facility!
Not going to happened plain and simple, they are 2 main reasons.
1) Biggest one is the Drone/Multi market, company like HH has the put money where customers are. There are only so many resources somebody can commit.
2) They would have to change the Communication protocol, they DSMX is not completely bidirectional. All receivers would have to be transceivers, they have to send and receive data.
Moment they do it, ALL existing stuff is obsolete.

Also they do not have wired bi-directional communication protocol like Jeti (EX Bus)
That's what you need if you want to communicate and program devices (Receivers, Sensors, Central Power Boxes) also if you want to receive data and execute functions according data inputs (MSpeed for Auto-Speed, MAlti - Automatic Drop for retract...).

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We like Jeti
...and I like your flying site!!!
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Futaba 18SZ all the way!
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Jr if he can afford it,i have used Futaba for 27 years with zero glitches.
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Old 12-14-2015, 04:15 AM
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Taranis 9X. Check it out before you buy anything. Then ask yourself, why every other brand is 3-4x as expensive.
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It depends on what he likes to do. They all work. All have problems. Jeti is nice but you can outsmart yourself with technology. DX18'is good value but doesnt feel like my 12x. Futaba is lagging but hopefully will update- buy one and the new model will show up the next week. JR pissed me off when they dropped backward compatability. And taranis offers the features that come on most 400 transmitters for 199 plus if you are a computer programmer you can write your own code. I have never met a taranis owner who writes his own code but they all brag about it. Buy what your flying buddies use so you can bum spares....
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I would say: check what you fly, will be flying, and where.
I've never used any of those gadgets nor electronic devises.
I just keep it simple. This is not a job, it's just a hobby. And
I just love Spektrum for being easy to use.

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Don't fly jets so wouldn't buy an expensive radion.
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Originally Posted by Jeti USA View Post
Not going to happened plain and simple, they are 2 main reasons.
1) Biggest one is the Drone/Multi market, company like HH has the put money where customers are. There are only so many resources somebody can commit.
2) They would have to change the Communication protocol, they DSMX is not completely bidirectional. All receivers would have to be transceivers, they have to send and receive data.
Moment they do it, ALL existing stuff is obsolete.

Also they do not have wired bi-directional communication protocol like Jeti (EX Bus)
That's what you need if you want to communicate and program devices (Receivers, Sensors, Central Power Boxes) also if you want to receive data and execute functions according data inputs (MSpeed for Auto-Speed, MAlti - Automatic Drop for retract...).

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HH can still produce a high end radio that feels high end without changing their protocol. The build quality of the 12X is leaps and bounds above the DX18 and obviously both use DSMX.
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Originally Posted by 2walla View Post
It depends on what he likes to do. They all work. All have problems. Jeti is nice but you can outsmart yourself with technology. DX18'is good value but doesnt feel like my 12x. Futaba is lagging but hopefully will update- buy one and the new model will show up the next week. JR pissed me off when they dropped backward compatability. And taranis offers the features that come on most 400 transmitters for 199 plus if you are a computer programmer you can write your own code. I have never met a taranis owner who writes his own code but they all brag about it. Buy what your flying buddies use so you can bum spares....
"Jeti is nice but you can outsmart yourself with technology"
Can you explain that, I'm missing something there.
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Wow! Great info!

My buddy needs to read up!

And I can not justify less than 12 channels for any radio now. My jets eat up channels like popcorn.

In my mind, its hard to dismiss the LLLLOOONNNGGG history of JR (ok and Futaba too..... )

And the biggest new comer star (at least it seems) is Jeti. Weatronics was getting a lot of attention a few years ago, but I haven't been seeing them.

I am thankful that my faithful (FM capable still! HA!) 12x-MV still works like a champ, because if I had to choose a new radio now, I would be hard pressed to choose.

And as I can't get JR dsm2 1221 receivers anymore, my day of radio reckoning is on the horizon as well.

Jeti really intrigues me with the tx gyro, the number of channels, a very open programming platform, telemetry and the PRICE!
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Originally Posted by ltc View Post
"Jeti is nice but you can outsmart yourself with technology"
Can you explain that, I'm missing something there.
1) i am not a fan of always updating things. Every software update can screw things up somewhere somehow that is unforseen. Every flight after an upgrade is like a maiden for me.
2). There are a lot of really cool settings you can change and a few guys have ended up with smoking holes due to user error (read all 100 pages of the thread on jeti

i am convinced that they have the best system out there but its like arguing over getting shot in the head with. 45 vs the latest greatest pistol round. End result is the same.
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