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Old 01-11-2016, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dubd
Not just dumbasses in urban areas. It's also dumbasses in rural areas. Sounds like the problem is really with dumbasses and not the technology. Funny how this is so similar to the gun debate. Regulate vs ban vs do nothing.
Agreed, down with dumbasses! Can you imagine how wonderful the world would be without dumbasses? Wait a minute, then we wouldn't have anything to complain about ;-)
Old 01-12-2016, 06:34 AM
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Canadians have voices as well

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Old 01-12-2016, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DeferredDefect
I agree that's pretty dangerous flying, and obviously lousy moderating, but there's bad eggs in any hobby. With the internet of course, it's far easier to find said bad-eggs, even if they are few and far between.

However, it wasn't that long ago when people would do stupid things with LOS flying as well.
I remember reading an older (maybe late 1980s?) R/C modelling magazine discussing the authors trials learning to fly a larger glow model in a parking lot. The story was obviously making light of how ignorant they were to the danger at the time, but this was an informal club flying and crashing .60 sized models in a built up area.

Dangerous, sure. But it was happening, and I'm sure occasionally still does.

What I'm saying is we don't have a perfect track record either, and I guarantee the hobby will be looking back on some of the reckless behaviour today as completely absurd once we establish a new safety culture.

Give it some time.
What's really scary is an intelligent guy such as yourself, especially as a R/C modeler and moderator does stupid dangerous flights and then tries to justify it by referring to equally stupid things that occurred 30 years ago. You sir are in a better position than most of us, to help establish this NEW safety culture. Yet you choose to use your position to make it worse ??
Old 01-12-2016, 09:14 AM
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Here's what the FAA is concerned about!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4refzhmxks
Old 01-12-2016, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Ron Stahl
Here's what the FAA is concerned about!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4refzhmxks
Yep, that happens ALOT. The solution, of course, is education - somebody needed to teach that guy about proper pre-flight procedures to make sure his RC link was secure, that the fail-safe was setup correctly, that the compass was calibrated, that the GPS had lock, etc. Some of it was probably in the manual (in badly translated Chinese, no doubt), but clearly he didn't read it...

I'd be willing to bet that the majority of the "near misses" with drones reported to the FAA (that were legitimate), were due to fly aways like this.

Its not an easy problem to solve. Clearly the users don't typically read the manuals or ask around for help, and most of the retailers are only interested in the sale, not what is done with it after that. Maybe after the novelty has worn off and the masses have moved on to the next new gadget, things will settle down a bit and only the people who want to learn how to do it right will be left.

Hopefully that guy and his wife aren't going to go out and drop a bunch of cash on another one and do it again...

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Old 01-12-2016, 10:22 AM
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DeferredDefect is the moderator of R/C Canada, he is totally educated, but flys over neighborhoods from his large screen TV in his living room. Maybe they think they ( drones ), are harmless ? I don't get it.
Old 01-12-2016, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Daleroger
DeferredDefect is the moderator of R/C Canada, he is totally educated, but flys over neighborhoods from his large screen TV in his living room. Maybe they think they ( drones ), are harmless ? I don't get it.
I agree, I don't get it either. In the case of the flyaway that Ron posted, I'd be willing to bet that the guy would liked to have had at least some instruction to know how to set up his quad so that it didn't just fly off into the wild blue yonder.

The cases of the numb nuts who do stupid stuff even though they know better is a tougher nut to crack. The FAA has said that they want to concentrate on "compliance" vs. "enforcement" and I agree that's the better course, but some enforcement is going to be needed to reign in these unsafe operators.

The FIRST requirement though is a set of *regulations* around which to build the compliance and enforcement pieces. This is many years late and sorely needed...

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Old 01-12-2016, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Daleroger
What's really scary is an intelligent guy such as yourself, especially as a R/C modeler and moderator does stupid dangerous flights and then tries to justify it by referring to equally stupid things that occurred 30 years ago. You sir are in a better position than most of us, to help establish this NEW safety culture. Yet you choose to use your position to make it worse ??
Hey Dale..Welcome to the..Its all about Max show. Deny and Lie Deny and Lie.
The police did actually call him into the station once to warn him about his activities, Later he flew from his living room.
Now this may be a reach, I admit.. But a few short months ago the French gov was looking for 2 drone operators that where flying over Paris. One turned himself in. The other they did not catch. Max was there on vacation at the same time as posted on his FB and then theres this..
http://www.rccanada.ca/rccforum/show...29&postcount=2
Old 01-12-2016, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron Stahl
Here's what the FAA is concerned about!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4refzhmxks
And some of this too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM3Ede2hgaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi91aFdKd9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_jps2vN1oQ
Old 01-12-2016, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Daleroger
DeferredDefect is the moderator of R/C Canada, he is totally educated, but flys over neighborhoods from his large screen TV in his living room. Maybe they think they ( drones ), are harmless ? I don't get it.
Here's an interesting one from Canada eh,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDOg4D5VI8c
Old 01-12-2016, 04:35 PM
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A workmate who knows I build and fly RC airplanes asked if I was going to get a drone. I told him it wasn't my thing. He thinks it would be cool to film overhead shots at our local Nascar short track. Major Tom to ground control we may have a problem.
Old 01-12-2016, 06:32 PM
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This thread is getting a little heated.

Can everybody please remind themselves of our posting rules and dial it back a bit.
Old 01-13-2016, 10:24 AM
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Hilarious examples of why the FAA is now involved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyQ-qo7kZes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB37...ature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6zj...ature=youtu.be
Old 01-14-2016, 01:13 PM
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I've purchased materials from Tower Hobby in the past, not so sure when though because I get their catalog every so often in the mail. I received one in the mail yesterday so I took a glance through it when I didn't have anything else to do. I noticed that Revell and Estes are producing drones. So when did the Revell plastic model company and the Estes rocket company start getting involved in the production and sales of drones?

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