Its Official: AMA says we are now required to register.
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Its Official: AMA says we are now required to register.
Read 'em and weep:
http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...ked-questions/
Yup, your club will MAKE you do it. And jet rallies too.
#murica
http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...ked-questions/
Yup, your club will MAKE you do it. And jet rallies too.
#murica
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Read 'em and weep:
http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...ked-questions/
Yup, your club will MAKE you do it. And jet rallies too.
#murica
http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...ked-questions/
Yup, your club will MAKE you do it. And jet rallies too.
#murica
Also, the AMA has said that registration is between the individual and the FAA - its is a *club* decision of whether or not to enforce registration as a club rule. Of course if they can work on the registration issue with the FAA, then ultimately the point will be moot. Hopefully, must clubs will not jump on the bandwagon to become the registration police - mine has not...
Bob
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FAA's violation of Section 336 of the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, which prohibits the FAA from promulgating rules regarding "model aircraft" (drones used for recreational purposes).
Hum, I wonder who got that provision passed into law is the first place?!?!?
Bob
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OK, OK, let's not go off the deep end on this just yet! The AMA is working with the FAA to try and make the registration process transparent for AMA members in the future - they just could not get it done before the Feb 19th deadline. Let's wait and see what the outcome of all of this will be before we throw in the towel.
Also, the AMA has said that registration is between the individual and the FAA - its is a *club* decision of whether or not to enforce registration as a club rule. Of course if they can work on the registration issue with the FAA, then ultimately the point will be moot. Hopefully, must clubs will not jump on the bandwagon to become the registration police - mine has not...
Bob
Also, the AMA has said that registration is between the individual and the FAA - its is a *club* decision of whether or not to enforce registration as a club rule. Of course if they can work on the registration issue with the FAA, then ultimately the point will be moot. Hopefully, must clubs will not jump on the bandwagon to become the registration police - mine has not...
Bob
As VP of a local club we have no intention of becoming policemen for the FAA. Additionally we have a number of members who don't fly. So why should they need to register?
There may be a few misguided self righteous individuals who might want to take this on. Maybe they can also check drivers licenses and green cards for everyone that shows up at the field.
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There is absolutely no reason for clubs to enforce registration. According to the reg. individuals found in violation are personally liable. The AMA has not advised us of any club liability if a non registered individual flies at our field.
As VP of a local club we have no intention of becoming policemen for the FAA. Additionally we have a number of members who don't fly. So why should they need to register?
There may be a few misguided self righteous individuals who might want to take this on. Maybe they can also check drivers licenses and green cards for everyone that shows up at the field.
As VP of a local club we have no intention of becoming policemen for the FAA. Additionally we have a number of members who don't fly. So why should they need to register?
There may be a few misguided self righteous individuals who might want to take this on. Maybe they can also check drivers licenses and green cards for everyone that shows up at the field.
I'm hoping to hear back shortly and will let everyone know when I do
Bill H.
Sec/Treasurer
Kishwaukee R/C Flyers
Charter 258
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In order to settle this issue with our club membership I sent an email to the AMA this afternoon requesting specific 'in-writing' clarification regarding whether the AMA 'WILL REQUIRE' our club to verify that all members who fly have registered with the FAA.
I'm hoping to hear back shortly and will let everyone know when I do
Bill H.
Sec/Treasurer
Kishwaukee R/C Flyers
Charter 258
I'm hoping to hear back shortly and will let everyone know when I do
Bill H.
Sec/Treasurer
Kishwaukee R/C Flyers
Charter 258
Chad Budreau January 11, 2016 at 13:15
We will be updating our club officers and leader members soon with more details.
The short answer is No. Clubs are not required to police Federal registration, that decision is up to each club. Registration compliance does not affect your membership or insurance.
It will be interesting to see if that has changed...
Bob
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Can I move to Canada or Italy? Do you guys have these stupid issues?
The $5 tax to sign up makes me laugh. By now they have well over one million dollars in fees and your telling me the FAA / Government is going to refund it? Rrrright. After collecting how much in interest? Can I get my rebate plus interest earned?
Ridiculous...
Thanks drondiots!!
The $5 tax to sign up makes me laugh. By now they have well over one million dollars in fees and your telling me the FAA / Government is going to refund it? Rrrright. After collecting how much in interest? Can I get my rebate plus interest earned?
Ridiculous...
Thanks drondiots!!
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This was posted on the AMA blog a week or so ago:
Chad Budreau January 11, 2016 at 13:15
We will be updating our club officers and leader members soon with more details.
The short answer is No. Clubs are not required to police Federal registration, that decision is up to each club. Registration compliance does not affect your membership or insurance.
It will indeed be interesting to see if that has changed...
Bob
Chad Budreau January 11, 2016 at 13:15
We will be updating our club officers and leader members soon with more details.
The short answer is No. Clubs are not required to police Federal registration, that decision is up to each club. Registration compliance does not affect your membership or insurance.
It will indeed be interesting to see if that has changed...
Bob
Bob,
Thanks for the information and link to the AMA blog where the question was asked and answered.....at least at that time.
It will be interesting to see if I receive the same answer.
Bill
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Can I move to Canada or Italy? Do you guys have these stupid issues?
The $5 tax to sign up makes me laugh. By now they have well over one million dollars in fees and your telling me the FAA / Government is going to refund it? Rrrright. After collecting how much in interest? Can I get my rebate plus interest earned?
Ridiculous...
Thanks drondiots!!
The $5 tax to sign up makes me laugh. By now they have well over one million dollars in fees and your telling me the FAA / Government is going to refund it? Rrrright. After collecting how much in interest? Can I get my rebate plus interest earned?
Ridiculous...
Thanks drondiots!!
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Well, maybe, but it won't be very free when this happens and someone uses your CC info to buy all the new toys you can afford them:
http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...ked-questions/
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Roger McClurg January 11, 2016 at 12:41
The FAA registration site still requires a credit card that they debit for $5. The FAA then credits the $5 back a week or so later. The FAA’s site is so poorly designed that one individual’s personal and credit card information was presented to another registrant when he went to verify his own information. This is outrageous. If the FAA is not going to charge us, then they should not require credit information on such a poorly designed site.
Be *very* careful what card you use if you register! How long do you think it'll be before this FAA database gets announced as having been "hacked"? I predict it's only a matter of when, not if.
http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...ked-questions/
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Roger McClurg January 11, 2016 at 12:41
The FAA registration site still requires a credit card that they debit for $5. The FAA then credits the $5 back a week or so later. The FAA’s site is so poorly designed that one individual’s personal and credit card information was presented to another registrant when he went to verify his own information. This is outrageous. If the FAA is not going to charge us, then they should not require credit information on such a poorly designed site.
Be *very* careful what card you use if you register! How long do you think it'll be before this FAA database gets announced as having been "hacked"? I predict it's only a matter of when, not if.
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Can I move to Canada or Italy? Do you guys have these stupid issues?
The $5 tax to sign up makes me laugh. By now they have well over one million dollars in fees and your telling me the FAA / Government is going to refund it? Rrrright. After collecting how much in interest? Can I get my rebate plus interest earned?
Ridiculous...
Thanks drondiots!!
The $5 tax to sign up makes me laugh. By now they have well over one million dollars in fees and your telling me the FAA / Government is going to refund it? Rrrright. After collecting how much in interest? Can I get my rebate plus interest earned?
Ridiculous...
Thanks drondiots!!
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Put together a fund to ban all FPV and I'll gladly give!!!
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I registered on Dec 21 and paid my $5.00. I did not receive the refund until Monday, if I had not received my refund by Jan 21 I was going to dispute the charges with my credit card provider. The FAA will refund it just takes a while.
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Well, maybe, but it won't be very free when this happens and someone uses your CC info to buy all the new toys you can afford them:
http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...ked-questions/
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Roger McClurg January 11, 2016 at 12:41
The FAA registration site still requires a credit card that they debit for $5. The FAA then credits the $5 back a week or so later. . This is outrageous. If the FAA is not going to charge us, then they should not require credit information on such a poorly designed site.
Be *very* careful what card you use if you register! How long do you think it'll be before this FAA database gets announced as having been "hacked"? I predict it's only a matter of when, not if.
http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/ama...ked-questions/
comment:
Roger McClurg January 11, 2016 at 12:41
The FAA registration site still requires a credit card that they debit for $5. The FAA then credits the $5 back a week or so later. . This is outrageous. If the FAA is not going to charge us, then they should not require credit information on such a poorly designed site.
Be *very* careful what card you use if you register! How long do you think it'll be before this FAA database gets announced as having been "hacked"? I predict it's only a matter of when, not if.
This seems rather unlikely since when I log into my account, my credit card information isn't there. They didn't even reveal my credit card information other than the last 4 digits on the confirmation I received to confirm payment. I find it difficult to see how they will show someone else information that isn't in the database. Just because you pay with a credit card doesn't mean they store your card information.
As for their database being hacked, that's always a possiblity. Of course if they don't store card information there, and I'm almost certain they don't, I don't see a lot of motivation to go to the trouble..
As for someone buying a bunch of stuff using your card information, if your credit card company doesn't immediately remove all such charges to your card immediately upon being notified they are fraudulent, you need a new credit card company..