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SM 1/5 F-86 "Black Angel" FliteMetal Weatronic 10-22 Gizmo Receiver Build Thread

Old 03-29-2016, 04:03 PM
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Default SM 1/5 F-86 "Black Angel" FliteMetal Weatronic 10-22 Gizmo Receiver Build Thread

An oldie but goodie. This kit is one of the very first kits SkyMaster built. Originally sold to Sung Kim maybe 6-7 years ago, it sat in Master Builder Henry Ngyuen's shop un-completed. I just acquired.

First job plan the radio install. I cut a hatch in the scale location.
I still need to install air fill valves, as well as one or two smaller pressure gauges.

FliteMetal is moving forward as well. I like to start with the smaller panels, and do rivet work on each part, as I go. My Scheme

David S
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Old 03-29-2016, 04:32 PM
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That's gonna be awesome .... can't wait to see it progress! JS
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Looking good, Dave! Are you going with external linkages on the rudder or ailerons?
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If you can, recommend you use the patch antennas. They provide an even better coverage.
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Hi David,

I'm really looking forward to your build. I don't know if these pictures will be any help but shows some of a build I did around five years ago.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3151924&type=3

Cheers, Alex
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David,

Do you have one of the new Weatronic BAT transmitters or are you using a DV module with the 10-22 rx?

Craig
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Originally Posted by Edgar Perez
If you can, recommend you use the patch antennas. They provide an even better coverage.
Edgar,

Yes, patch antennae is the plan. I have one installed at the top of the nose intake pointing down and forward. The nose will be painted, as the nose intake on the real jet is composite, so no FliteMetal to obstruct the reception. The second antennae I plan to install at the rear top of the cockpit, pointing up and back. The canopy frame will also be painted. The antennae will be located above the FM fuse radiating thru the clear canopy.

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Originally Posted by CraigG
David,

Do you have one of the new Weatronic BAT transmitters or are you using a DV module with the 10-22 rx?

Craig
Craig,

I'm using the Bat 60. On the waiting list for the 64.I saw the Bat 60 for the first time at BITW last year. Woody, from Ultimate Jets had a booth. Though, admittedly I had been talking about it with Oli some time before. Picked it up at tha AMA Show in Jan. Awesome radio! Now with the PowerBox involvement, I'm really excited.

David S
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Originally Posted by Alex48
Hi David,

I'm really looking forward to your build. I don't know if these pictures will be any help but shows some of a build I did around five years ago.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3151924&type=3

Cheers, Alex
Alex,

Thanks for the link. I will definitely use them for reference.

David S
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Originally Posted by dubd
Looking good, Dave! Are you going with external linkages on the rudder or ailerons?
Dantley,

The jet has been set up for internal, work done by Henry Ngyuen, but I am leaning towards going external on the ailerons, maybe the rudder, as well. What's been your experience? I'm open to input.

David S
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Originally Posted by David Searles
Dantley,

The jet has been set up for internal, work done by Henry Ngyuen, but I am leaning towards going external on the ailerons, maybe the rudder, as well. What's been your experience? I'm open to input.

David S
I started with external on the rudder based on feedback from Dustin at BVM. On my second flight my ailerons fluttered (internal linkage) at medium speed, so I converted to an external linkage and never had another issue, even at high speed. Have you decided on an engine? I suggest something in the 180 range. I had a 160 in mine and it was anemic. It could barely maintain level flight with gear, flaps, and speed brakes out.

BTW - The scheme you've selected looks awesome!
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It's going to be a fantastic model.
And awsome scheme. Enjoy flight metalling!
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Originally Posted by David Searles
Craig,

I'm using the Bat 60. On the waiting list for the 64.I saw the Bat 60 for the first time at BITW last year. Woody, from Ultimate Jets had a booth. Though, admittedly I had been talking about it with Oli some time before. Picked it up at tha AMA Show in Jan. Awesome radio! Now with the PowerBox involvement, I'm really excited.

David S
I picked up my BAT 60 from Woody after I saw it at Mississippi Afterburner last year. Perfect radio and rx combination for my A-10. A good choice for you F-86 also!

Craig
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Originally Posted by dubd
I started with external on the rudder based on feedback from Dustin at BVM. On my second flight my ailerons fluttered (internal linkage) at medium speed, so I converted to an external linkage and never had another issue, even at high speed. Have you decided on an engine? I suggest something in the 180 range. I had a 160 in mine and it was anemic. It could barely maintain level flight with gear, flaps, and speed brakes out.

BTW - The scheme you've selected looks awesome!
Do you have pics of your linkages you could post? Where is your c/g and surface throw measurements would be appreciated. Do you fly with the wing tanks? Thinking about ordering them as they weren't with this kit.

I'm planning on a 40lb Jet Central Rhino for power. Was thinking about the JB220 but they are back ordered for months. Saw one used on RCU, but someone else got it before I could.
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Lookin' good Dave!!
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I love it when I see a before and after sequence.
People often ask about crinkles and wrinkles...



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Hi David: Sent you a PM re: JB220. I have two of them for sale, NIB, never run or mounted.

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Originally Posted by Tom Antlfinger
Hi David: Sent you a PM re: JB220. I have two of them for sale, NIB, never run or mounted.

Tom
Thanks! PM returned.
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So.....great timing....I'm seriously considering using flite metal on a project I have on my bench. Is Flite Metal similar to the Aluminum tape they sell at the hardware store, or is it more "stretchable" or heat treateable?
Not trying to undermine the product in any way, just trying to understand how it is applied so I can "plan" accordingly. I really want to do this!

Thanks,
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"Similar" yes. There are a couple different types available, at Home Depot, for example, that I use for small panels/sections, as it only comes in 3"" width. One is very similar to FliteMetal. For large fuselage and wing sections, I've found nothing better though than FliteMetal. The FliteMetal is much more workable for stretching around curves etc.

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Wondered same. using tape, the panels would limited in size to about 2"x 2". tape sticks well but in the heat of the sun? Whereas David shows a large panel applied with FM and imagine it does well in the heat based on other models. Looks great.
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These were all done with the Nashua tape I picked up from Home Depot. Works great and gives a nice contrast to the larger FM panels, as the material is slightly different.


Finished with FM
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That's actually the tape I use for small sections. I use it a lot to cover gear door gaps at the hinged edge. Cut it to a "flexible seal plate" shape, install, simulate little rivets and then paint over it.

Cool, looks like Flite Metal it is.

David
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It's been a while, but here's the latest. Need to install lighting pkg and finish nose paint.

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