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Old 10-15-2016, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jgwright
Yes pictures of the kit on facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3992504&type=3

Mine came extremely well packaged in double thickness cardboard and plenty of bubble wrap. No damage at all in transit.

Nice slow flying video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vR3rYkokzc John
i dont see room for spars in the wings, and i dont really get the huge hinge gap cutout - can you explain?
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Originally Posted by i3dm
i dont see room for spars in the wings, and i dont really get the huge hinge gap cutout - can you explain?
The wing is a one piece wing. Both halves are joined together with a ply braces and a fibreglass bandage. I am making the ply braces either side of the wheels wells so the retracts plate can span between them making much stronger retract mounts. The cut outs front and rear allow the wing to be plugged into the front of the cut out in the fuselage and secured by 2 screws at the rear. It is exactly the same as the AMD Hawk for those that had one.

The flaps and ailerons need facing with balsa on the wing and aileron side and also need some shielding depending on how you intend to hinge them. No problem to fill in the gap. I am not decided on hinging method yet. I like glass fibre tongues and a pull out wire hinge so they can be removed at any stage. This requires inset balsa blocks to be inserted.

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Old 10-15-2016, 07:31 AM
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This Evo fits the criteria of the op ... Anyone know of a build thread for it?

What was the price shipped

Thx in advance
Old 10-15-2016, 07:34 AM
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They should offer an ARF version for us lazies
It really is a nice jet.
Old 10-15-2016, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by erh7771
This Evo fits the criteria of the op ... Anyone know of a build thread for it?

What was the price shipped

Thx in advance
http://www.rc-network.de/forum/showt...von-PAF/page2?

Not the best thread as he made mistakes in joining the wing. Came out very heavy, too heavy retracts. Huge intercontinental fuel tank 2.7litres.

The plane needs a top hatch and I will make one on mine and infill the large opening underneath with proskin to add back stiffening. Dubro 1.5 Litre tank fits nicely. Would be great with a MW44.

Delivered price to the Uk was 620 euro. I didn't order the fuel tank or pipe or the cnc cut parts. The instructions come with a set of full size drawings of the CNC parts.

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Old 10-15-2016, 12:50 PM
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Hi John,
I looked at the sting years ago and even tried contacting them but got no response. I can only speak/type English so perhaps that was the problem. I like almost everything about it except the inlets. I'd really want to make those less squared off looking.
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Peter speaks good english, probably just busy. He is often away at flying events.

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Old 10-16-2016, 07:27 PM
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Back in the day,D/L Aeromodel had a very nice Cyclone airframe for turbines that would work well with today's smaller engines. They also had a very nice MB339 kit that was also sold by another distributor as well under their own name. Construction was similar to the BVM kits of the day and very reasonably priced, good flyers. I too, think there is still a large market potential for that size airframe, especially scale models.
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Originally Posted by GJr.
Back in the day,D/L Aeromodel had a very nice Cyclone airframe for turbines that would work well with today's smaller engines. They also had a very nice MB339 kit that was also sold by another distributor as well under their own name. Construction was similar to the BVM kits of the day and very reasonably priced, good flyers. I too, think there is still a large market potential for that size airframe, especially scale models.

I had a cyclone 2. Loved that jet! Shame they aren't around anymore.
Old 10-19-2016, 11:55 AM
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Cyclones were a great jet. The Panthere was another.
Old 10-19-2016, 02:20 PM
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Jeremy,
I flew a DL Aero Cyclone for 7 years-4 as a glow DF and converted to a turbine for the last 3. This was the first production model by Yves and was originally built by a fellow jet modeler for a review in RCJI. He flew it for a while until he had a flameout and crashed into a tree- this was the "speed" version with the short wing. I bought the hulk for a song and repaired it with the longer sport wings. It was powered by a Dynamax fan originally with a K&B 82 DF engine and later with a BVM 91R. Many great flights in the northeast USA and southern CA with this combo. I then did a turbine conversion for a FTE-500 and flew it for several more seasons. It was a shoehorn fit and space for fuel was at a premium. I ended up with 5 tanks, including a belly (ventral) tank for a total of 48 oz or about 6 minutes plus reserve. This conversion was flown in New England and Ontario at many jet rallies. The belly (ventral) tank was its downfall, when your raised the nose for a landing flare the fuel sloshed rearward for a tail heavy CG followed by a snap roll. I just got tired of repairing it and moved on. Many fond memories though on this Cyclone and it would be a great sport jet especially with the newer, lighter and more fuel efficient turbines. Yves was also great to deal with and sorry to see him leave the hobby/sport.
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Old 10-20-2016, 08:10 AM
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Cool Spectre

Another plane I always liked was the Trim Aircraft Spectre.
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Old 10-20-2016, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetset
Another plane I always liked was the Trim Aircraft Spectre.
Yup, I had a spectre too. Sold it before I flew it though to help fund a super bandit. After flying my super bandit I wish I'd kept the spectre!
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Originally Posted by LGM Graphix
Yup, I had a spectre too. Sold it before I flew it though to help fund a super bandit. After flying my super bandit I wish I'd kept the spectre!
Oh really eh?
Old 10-20-2016, 12:47 PM
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20 flights so far and it's going well.
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Old 10-21-2016, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetset
Oh really eh?

Yeah, I quickly sold my super bandit. My least favourite jet I've owned. People think that's weird but I didn't like it at all.
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Old 10-23-2016, 10:20 AM
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I think I remember seeing pics of your Spectre YEARS ago. Wicked paintjob!
Old 06-05-2017, 08:37 AM
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Still no new sleek, small, sport jets. I see the Fortune is coming out with a 60 size and Sebart came out with an Avanti this size but still nothing sleek.
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I'm refurbishing an Aggressor 2 to turbine but if I ever come across another one, I'm going to turn it into a plug and mold a few planes for myself.. The jet is just to cool not to have a few of them!
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I'm interested in your aggressor conversion. I want to do that to the old viper I picked up. What engine, tank and pipe are you using?
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I have a 1 litre tank I plan on using. Engine I am 50/50 on the K45 or K60, probably K60 though.. Pipe not sure but the pipe in my Starfire looks about right so I will measure it and see what there is out there.
Viper would be so cool too. can't beat these old BVM jets for style!

Retracts and wheels are Hobbyking as was the 1 litre tank

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Originally Posted by Jetset
I have a 1 litre tank I plan on using. Engine I am 50/50 on the K45 or K60, probably K60 though.. Pipe not sure but the pipe in my Starfire looks about right so I will measure it and see what there is out there.
Viper would be so cool too. can't beat these old BVM jets for style!

Retracts and wheels are Hobbyking as was the 1 litre tank
I run a 40oz tank with my K45. I get 5 minutes from gear up to gear down so about 6 minutes in the air. I am trying to fit a 50oz tank in my Phoenix Models Preceptor.
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The funny thing is, the current Bandit ARF will fly REALLY WELL on the P-70.
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Originally Posted by Doug Cronkhite
The funny thing is, the current Bandit ARF will fly REALLY WELL on the P-70.
I agree, I just don't like how bandits fly. Been there. Plus it's still a very expensive airplane. A flash will fly well on a P70 as well, I just think the flash is butt ugly.


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