Where did the experts go
09-08-2016, 09:02 AM
#51
I used to come here a lot. Did a lot of build threads, painting tutorials etc. I've been here very little lately for a few reasons.
First of all, I'm bored with the site. While there are still a number of posts happening, I'm bored with it being so much of the same. Even new jets coming out, they are more of the same. There is little new that interests me. It's either way to big or looks like a pregnant fish. When it comes to the new products to put into jets, it's just not my thing. I'm old school in nature and flying jets that don't require all the flashy glitzy stuff that is coming out. I have stuck with the tried and true methods for decades and anytime I've tried the newest latest and greatest I've experienced some kind of issue. Not to say there is nothing good out there new, far from it, the technology is evolving at a tremendous rate and some incredible product is coming out but it's nothing I need or want.
Secondly, I got put off when I would spend hours writing tutorials on painting and yet if I put up a post saying that yes, I would paint jets, or put up pictures of more of my stuff as examples, it would get closed or outright removed and I'd be told that I can't post graphical ad's unless I was a paying advertiser, in the meantime, other people would pop up on this site, never offering a word of advice and every single post they made was advertising for their paint services.
Third, just tired of the manufacture bashing. Yes we are playing with high dollar toys and I guess there is no reason we should expect less than perfect, but the fact that somebody crashes an airplane these days and then comes on here wanting a free airplane pisses me off. I've been flying on my own since I was 5 years old, 1982. I've been through good kits and bad kits, I've been through the first ARF's that were overpriced and fell apart, I've been through the fly by night manufactures, I've been through the long term manufactures and at some point all of us have something fail. I've always accepted it's part of the game. I had RAM turbine after RAM turbine blow up on me. If there was no warranty, even if the engine had no hours, I sucked it up as part of the risk. Sucked bigtime but I've always felt we are accepting a risk with anything we buy.
Finally, I started noticing some of the original posters on here stopped posting, the ones who have a plethora of experience. I'm sure they too quit posting or slowed way down because they got tired of the armchair experts telling them they are doing it wrong, or getting into arguments when they have zero experience.
The entire hobby has changed and while I still enjoy the flying aspect the overall hobby is not as enjoyable as it used to be. Every event I go to, you can see the people there have divided into groups. It's not the same social hobby it used to be. The jet crowd is still probably the best for being social at events though.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the hobby still, but I guess it's why all the jets I have are at least 10 years old now, there is little out there that excites me in the way of new products. Or if a new jet is released that I like, it's usually way to big. I'm not interested in jets that I need a toy hauler to take anywhere that burns 2 gallons of fuel every flight.
Just my thoughts.
First of all, I'm bored with the site. While there are still a number of posts happening, I'm bored with it being so much of the same. Even new jets coming out, they are more of the same. There is little new that interests me. It's either way to big or looks like a pregnant fish. When it comes to the new products to put into jets, it's just not my thing. I'm old school in nature and flying jets that don't require all the flashy glitzy stuff that is coming out. I have stuck with the tried and true methods for decades and anytime I've tried the newest latest and greatest I've experienced some kind of issue. Not to say there is nothing good out there new, far from it, the technology is evolving at a tremendous rate and some incredible product is coming out but it's nothing I need or want.
Secondly, I got put off when I would spend hours writing tutorials on painting and yet if I put up a post saying that yes, I would paint jets, or put up pictures of more of my stuff as examples, it would get closed or outright removed and I'd be told that I can't post graphical ad's unless I was a paying advertiser, in the meantime, other people would pop up on this site, never offering a word of advice and every single post they made was advertising for their paint services.
Third, just tired of the manufacture bashing. Yes we are playing with high dollar toys and I guess there is no reason we should expect less than perfect, but the fact that somebody crashes an airplane these days and then comes on here wanting a free airplane pisses me off. I've been flying on my own since I was 5 years old, 1982. I've been through good kits and bad kits, I've been through the first ARF's that were overpriced and fell apart, I've been through the fly by night manufactures, I've been through the long term manufactures and at some point all of us have something fail. I've always accepted it's part of the game. I had RAM turbine after RAM turbine blow up on me. If there was no warranty, even if the engine had no hours, I sucked it up as part of the risk. Sucked bigtime but I've always felt we are accepting a risk with anything we buy.
Finally, I started noticing some of the original posters on here stopped posting, the ones who have a plethora of experience. I'm sure they too quit posting or slowed way down because they got tired of the armchair experts telling them they are doing it wrong, or getting into arguments when they have zero experience.
The entire hobby has changed and while I still enjoy the flying aspect the overall hobby is not as enjoyable as it used to be. Every event I go to, you can see the people there have divided into groups. It's not the same social hobby it used to be. The jet crowd is still probably the best for being social at events though.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the hobby still, but I guess it's why all the jets I have are at least 10 years old now, there is little out there that excites me in the way of new products. Or if a new jet is released that I like, it's usually way to big. I'm not interested in jets that I need a toy hauler to take anywhere that burns 2 gallons of fuel every flight.
Just my thoughts.
09-08-2016, 12:02 PM
#53
Went the same place as plans, builders, sanders, painters, hobbyshop engineers. How many kits are manufactured now....a few BVM, Avonds..not many. Everyone gets a mostly build airplane out of the box, and assembles it. Some guys even take a look at how they were built and "fix" Chinese design flaws...even on the "premium" kits. We dont have builders any more and thus fewer and fewer experts. Want to experience a great thrill...get a Avonds F-16 and build it less than 20#, fly it on a small motor...it is a great flying jet. Want to experience the ultimate...build an Avonds Fuga. Smell glue again, see balsa dust and experience the thrill of real modelling.
09-08-2016, 02:26 PM
#55
I still like the site.
Come here most days...Ignore the BS and usually learn something.
Come here most days...Ignore the BS and usually learn something.
09-10-2016, 03:48 AM
#60
Went the same place as plans, builders, sanders, painters, hobbyshop engineers. How many kits are manufactured now....a few BVM, Avonds..not many. Everyone gets a mostly build airplane out of the box, and assembles it. Some guys even take a look at how they were built and "fix" Chinese design flaws...even on the "premium" kits. We dont have builders any more and thus fewer and fewer experts. Want to experience a great thrill...get a Avonds F-16 and build it less than 20#, fly it on a small motor...it is a great flying jet. Want to experience the ultimate...build an Avonds Fuga. Smell glue again, see balsa dust and experience the thrill of real modelling.
one thing i do not miss too much, is, breathing all that balsa dust.
do miss the old days of the southwest fan fly.
09-14-2016, 07:20 PM
#62
Wasn't on here long, but I'm out. Many good guys, but the 10% stupid blowhard jackasses ruin it. Guys who ridicule safety, basic aeronautics, logic, and fuel system setup, and have to argue about everything. I feel bad for folks like olnico who try to educate these curmudgeon morons.
Enough. Life is too short and better spent learning, building, and flying.
Enough. Life is too short and better spent learning, building, and flying.
Last edited by TTRotary; 09-14-2016 at 07:48 PM.
09-15-2016, 03:54 AM
#63
I used to come here a lot. Did a lot of build threads, painting tutorials etc. I've been here very little lately for a few reasons.
First of all, I'm bored with the site. While there are still a number of posts happening, I'm bored with it being so much of the same. Even new jets coming out, they are more of the same. There is little new that interests me. It's either way to big or looks like a pregnant fish. When it comes to the new products to put into jets, it's just not my thing. I'm old school in nature and flying jets that don't require all the flashy glitzy stuff that is coming out. I have stuck with the tried and true methods for decades and anytime I've tried the newest latest and greatest I've experienced some kind of issue. Not to say there is nothing good out there new, far from it, the technology is evolving at a tremendous rate and some incredible product is coming out but it's nothing I need or want.
Secondly, I got put off when I would spend hours writing tutorials on painting and yet if I put up a post saying that yes, I would paint jets, or put up pictures of more of my stuff as examples, it would get closed or outright removed and I'd be told that I can't post graphical ad's unless I was a paying advertiser, in the meantime, other people would pop up on this site, never offering a word of advice and every single post they made was advertising for their paint services.
Third, just tired of the manufacture bashing. Yes we are playing with high dollar toys and I guess there is no reason we should expect less than perfect, but the fact that somebody crashes an airplane these days and then comes on here wanting a free airplane pisses me off. I've been flying on my own since I was 5 years old, 1982. I've been through good kits and bad kits, I've been through the first ARF's that were overpriced and fell apart, I've been through the fly by night manufactures, I've been through the long term manufactures and at some point all of us have something fail. I've always accepted it's part of the game. I had RAM turbine after RAM turbine blow up on me. If there was no warranty, even if the engine had no hours, I sucked it up as part of the risk. Sucked bigtime but I've always felt we are accepting a risk with anything we buy.
Finally, I started noticing some of the original posters on here stopped posting, the ones who have a plethora of experience. I'm sure they too quit posting or slowed way down because they got tired of the armchair experts telling them they are doing it wrong, or getting into arguments when they have zero experience.
The entire hobby has changed and while I still enjoy the flying aspect the overall hobby is not as enjoyable as it used to be. Every event I go to, you can see the people there have divided into groups. It's not the same social hobby it used to be. The jet crowd is still probably the best for being social at events though.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the hobby still, but I guess it's why all the jets I have are at least 10 years old now, there is little out there that excites me in the way of new products. Or if a new jet is released that I like, it's usually way to big. I'm not interested in jets that I need a toy hauler to take anywhere that burns 2 gallons of fuel every flight.
Just my thoughts.
First of all, I'm bored with the site. While there are still a number of posts happening, I'm bored with it being so much of the same. Even new jets coming out, they are more of the same. There is little new that interests me. It's either way to big or looks like a pregnant fish. When it comes to the new products to put into jets, it's just not my thing. I'm old school in nature and flying jets that don't require all the flashy glitzy stuff that is coming out. I have stuck with the tried and true methods for decades and anytime I've tried the newest latest and greatest I've experienced some kind of issue. Not to say there is nothing good out there new, far from it, the technology is evolving at a tremendous rate and some incredible product is coming out but it's nothing I need or want.
Secondly, I got put off when I would spend hours writing tutorials on painting and yet if I put up a post saying that yes, I would paint jets, or put up pictures of more of my stuff as examples, it would get closed or outright removed and I'd be told that I can't post graphical ad's unless I was a paying advertiser, in the meantime, other people would pop up on this site, never offering a word of advice and every single post they made was advertising for their paint services.
Third, just tired of the manufacture bashing. Yes we are playing with high dollar toys and I guess there is no reason we should expect less than perfect, but the fact that somebody crashes an airplane these days and then comes on here wanting a free airplane pisses me off. I've been flying on my own since I was 5 years old, 1982. I've been through good kits and bad kits, I've been through the first ARF's that were overpriced and fell apart, I've been through the fly by night manufactures, I've been through the long term manufactures and at some point all of us have something fail. I've always accepted it's part of the game. I had RAM turbine after RAM turbine blow up on me. If there was no warranty, even if the engine had no hours, I sucked it up as part of the risk. Sucked bigtime but I've always felt we are accepting a risk with anything we buy.
Finally, I started noticing some of the original posters on here stopped posting, the ones who have a plethora of experience. I'm sure they too quit posting or slowed way down because they got tired of the armchair experts telling them they are doing it wrong, or getting into arguments when they have zero experience.
The entire hobby has changed and while I still enjoy the flying aspect the overall hobby is not as enjoyable as it used to be. Every event I go to, you can see the people there have divided into groups. It's not the same social hobby it used to be. The jet crowd is still probably the best for being social at events though.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the hobby still, but I guess it's why all the jets I have are at least 10 years old now, there is little out there that excites me in the way of new products. Or if a new jet is released that I like, it's usually way to big. I'm not interested in jets that I need a toy hauler to take anywhere that burns 2 gallons of fuel every flight.
Just my thoughts.
09-17-2016, 07:23 AM
#67
They went to http://www.giantscalenews.com/ I think?
09-17-2016, 01:13 PM
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