Bavarian Demon Cortex PRO is here!!
#226
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Joachim,
Thanks for the check.
Yes, I am positive that I am running RX1 into port B/ out of port 6 to the CB200 (and port A in/ port 5 out for the RX2 when connected). I am running 3 R3/RSW receivers (one as a switch) to the CB200, with all units updated with the latest Jeti released s/w. DS-16 Tx is running v4.22 LUA.
I have the Xicoy ECU TM adapter plugged into the CB200 EXT port and a Jeti MGPS plugged into the CB200 Port 15, configured for TM input.
With this configuration, when both Rx's are connected via the gyro, only the EXT port sensor is visible via Jetibox 1, although all sensor data is passed through and can be displayed. In this configuration, Jetibox 2 does not connect to any sensor.
As regards to the Pro firmware, I have never had the beta s/w - I downloaded the version from your website last week after the formal update was announced.
Appreciate any further advice.
Paul
Thanks for the check.
Yes, I am positive that I am running RX1 into port B/ out of port 6 to the CB200 (and port A in/ port 5 out for the RX2 when connected). I am running 3 R3/RSW receivers (one as a switch) to the CB200, with all units updated with the latest Jeti released s/w. DS-16 Tx is running v4.22 LUA.
I have the Xicoy ECU TM adapter plugged into the CB200 EXT port and a Jeti MGPS plugged into the CB200 Port 15, configured for TM input.
With this configuration, when both Rx's are connected via the gyro, only the EXT port sensor is visible via Jetibox 1, although all sensor data is passed through and can be displayed. In this configuration, Jetibox 2 does not connect to any sensor.
As regards to the Pro firmware, I have never had the beta s/w - I downloaded the version from your website last week after the formal update was announced.
Appreciate any further advice.
Paul
I'm not sure it should work as you expect and I don't think that has anything to do with the Cortex. I believe JB2 is a virtual Jetibox used to communicate to devices directly attached to the EXT port of the secondary receiver.In the past when I have used dual path with the secondary receiver configured to use PPM to communicate with the primary I could use JB2 to communicated to telemetry devices connected to the secondary receivers EXT port. Without a device directly connected to the secondaries EXT port it did nothing. With a CB200 and both R3s communicating via EX Bus you can't have a telemetry device connected directly to the secondary R3 so I don't think JB2 should talk to anything. If I'm wrong about this, hopefully someone will correct me but this is my understanding.
#227
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Joachim,
Problem solved - I had my RX2 connections swapped at the Gyro. Correcting that allows the JetiBox JB1 sensor selection as per normal. Sorry for the confusion. I have the model now set up with both RX1 and RX2 connected tot he CB200 via the gyro.
Wayne,
I did some testing to understand how the Jetibox works.
I set up what I call a fixed configuration, and then I changed the RX and gyro connections to it to see the results, just looking at the Jetibox emulation on the DS-16.
Fixed Configuration
CB200
Xicoy ECU TM Adaptor connected to CB200 EXT Port
Jeti MGPS sensor connected to CB200 Port 15, configured for TM input
Variations
1) Single R3/RSW Rx connected to CB200 RX1 Port, no Gyro. Results; ECU & GPS data received by DS-16. Single JB only/ JB1-JB2 option not available – ECU & GPS available on MX page. MX Page – pressing down initially connects to CB200 page, press right to get to sensor list. Subsequent MX page navigation (down) goes direct to sensor list
2) Single R3/RSW Rx connected to CB200 RX1 Port via Cortex Pro Gyro ports B in/6 out.Results; ECU & GPS data received by DS-16.Single JB only/ JB1-JB2 option not available – ECU & GPS available on MX page.MX Page – press down initially connects to CB200 page, press right to get to sensor list. Subsequent MX page navigation goes direct to sensor list
3) Dual R3/RSW Rx connected to CB200 RX1 & RX2 Ports, no Gyro.Results; ECU & GPS data received by DS-16.JB1 available – ECU & GPS NOT available on MX page. Displays ‘Mx Connecting’.JB2 available – ECU & GPS available on MX page.MX Page – press down initially connects to CB200 page, press right to get to sensor list. Subsequent MX page navigation goes direct to sensor list
4) Dual R3/RSW – RX1 connected to CB200 RX1 Port via Cortex Pro Gyro ports B in/6 out, RX2 direct to CB200 RX2.Results;ECU & GPS data received by DS-16. JB1 available – ECU & GPS available on MX page. JB2 available – ECU & GPS available on MX page. MX Page – press down initially connects to CB200 page, press right to get to sensor list. Subsequent MX page navigation (down) goes direct to sensor list
5) Dual R3/RSW – RX1 connected to CB200 RX1 Port via Cortex Pro Gyro ports B in/6 out, RX2 connected to CB200 RX2 Port via Cortex Pro Gyro ports A in/5 out.Results; ECU & GPS data received by DS-16.JB1 available – ECU & GPS available on MX page.JB2 available – ECU & GPS NOT available on MX page. Displays ‘Mx Connecting’
Problem solved - I had my RX2 connections swapped at the Gyro. Correcting that allows the JetiBox JB1 sensor selection as per normal. Sorry for the confusion. I have the model now set up with both RX1 and RX2 connected tot he CB200 via the gyro.
Wayne,
I did some testing to understand how the Jetibox works.
I set up what I call a fixed configuration, and then I changed the RX and gyro connections to it to see the results, just looking at the Jetibox emulation on the DS-16.
Fixed Configuration
CB200
Xicoy ECU TM Adaptor connected to CB200 EXT Port
Jeti MGPS sensor connected to CB200 Port 15, configured for TM input
Variations
1) Single R3/RSW Rx connected to CB200 RX1 Port, no Gyro. Results; ECU & GPS data received by DS-16. Single JB only/ JB1-JB2 option not available – ECU & GPS available on MX page. MX Page – pressing down initially connects to CB200 page, press right to get to sensor list. Subsequent MX page navigation (down) goes direct to sensor list
2) Single R3/RSW Rx connected to CB200 RX1 Port via Cortex Pro Gyro ports B in/6 out.Results; ECU & GPS data received by DS-16.Single JB only/ JB1-JB2 option not available – ECU & GPS available on MX page.MX Page – press down initially connects to CB200 page, press right to get to sensor list. Subsequent MX page navigation goes direct to sensor list
3) Dual R3/RSW Rx connected to CB200 RX1 & RX2 Ports, no Gyro.Results; ECU & GPS data received by DS-16.JB1 available – ECU & GPS NOT available on MX page. Displays ‘Mx Connecting’.JB2 available – ECU & GPS available on MX page.MX Page – press down initially connects to CB200 page, press right to get to sensor list. Subsequent MX page navigation goes direct to sensor list
4) Dual R3/RSW – RX1 connected to CB200 RX1 Port via Cortex Pro Gyro ports B in/6 out, RX2 direct to CB200 RX2.Results;ECU & GPS data received by DS-16. JB1 available – ECU & GPS available on MX page. JB2 available – ECU & GPS available on MX page. MX Page – press down initially connects to CB200 page, press right to get to sensor list. Subsequent MX page navigation (down) goes direct to sensor list
5) Dual R3/RSW – RX1 connected to CB200 RX1 Port via Cortex Pro Gyro ports B in/6 out, RX2 connected to CB200 RX2 Port via Cortex Pro Gyro ports A in/5 out.Results; ECU & GPS data received by DS-16.JB1 available – ECU & GPS available on MX page.JB2 available – ECU & GPS NOT available on MX page. Displays ‘Mx Connecting’
Last edited by JSF-TC; 05-05-2017 at 04:20 PM.
#228
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May I dare to say: " As usual"
But honestly: I am not really familiar with the way the Jetibox stuff works. You should ask this to Jeti best.
Glad that all works to your expectation now. Enjoy.
But honestly: I am not really familiar with the way the Jetibox stuff works. You should ask this to Jeti best.
Glad that all works to your expectation now. Enjoy.
#229
I'm using MKS servos on all surfaces of my Ultra Flash except the elevators which are JR8411's. The MKS have a freq of 333hz, while the JR's are 250hz. Should I set the Cortex to 200hz or 333hz?
#230
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Jim, et al, on the CB200, the Ext 2/3 ports are actually servo ports too, and are on the full power bus, so they are good for tapping power, but could have PW, 0/1 or ExSN on the sig wire.
The RX ports have a current limit and a small shotkey diode to protect the receiver in the basic design.. This is why the Jeti manual says don't plug anything into a satellite receiver. this is also why you see a small drop in receiver voltage vs the ACCU 1/2 voltage. Those ports were never designed for a load.
Thus the recommended patch power cable.. If it were me, I would pull the signal wire.. takes 2 sec. I do the same thing with the standard cortex, I place an additional power wire on it when running the loom cable and big servos..
Whats important in the Pro 2 things. 1. NEVER EVER plug power or anything into the programming port, other than what the manual calls for.. 2. Additional Power to the Pro is provided via the Servo ports 1-6, which are on a common bus..thus the recommendation to put power into port 4 in the pass through setup. If you are running it on a Y cord that actually has a servo connected to the output, even though the cortex isn't outputting a PW signal, I would not want the signal wire getting anything from the Pro.
Disclaimer: Danny or Johchim could correct my statements because they know far more than I do about it.
The RX ports have a current limit and a small shotkey diode to protect the receiver in the basic design.. This is why the Jeti manual says don't plug anything into a satellite receiver. this is also why you see a small drop in receiver voltage vs the ACCU 1/2 voltage. Those ports were never designed for a load.
Thus the recommended patch power cable.. If it were me, I would pull the signal wire.. takes 2 sec. I do the same thing with the standard cortex, I place an additional power wire on it when running the loom cable and big servos..
Whats important in the Pro 2 things. 1. NEVER EVER plug power or anything into the programming port, other than what the manual calls for.. 2. Additional Power to the Pro is provided via the Servo ports 1-6, which are on a common bus..thus the recommendation to put power into port 4 in the pass through setup. If you are running it on a Y cord that actually has a servo connected to the output, even though the cortex isn't outputting a PW signal, I would not want the signal wire getting anything from the Pro.
Disclaimer: Danny or Johchim could correct my statements because they know far more than I do about it.
Did anyone chime in on this? I am curious if I need to add the power patch cable or not....
#232
#233
Thread Starter
IF the cortex pro is set up as a pass through from the receivers to the CB200, you will need to put power in it on port 4 from a servo port on the CB200. You will notice the receiver voltage will be raised up a little bit to equal the pack voltage because you are wiring around the diodes on the RX ports.. that is ok.. I pulled the signal wire off the jumper, but it will work if you don't.
The receiver power ports on the CB200 are current limited, so the extra current of the cortex can tax the ports..
I just set one up last week.. put a Y cord on one of the outputs of the CB200, and plugged into port 4 of the cortex..
Be real careful here and make sure you get the right pins because there is a little gap behind the port that could let you get one pin off.. If you do, then you fry the cortex.. watch closely.. that little gap is where the bind pin goes sideways behind ports 4/5/6..
it works peachy well..
goose
#234
Thread Starter
With the new software and Bin files, the Pro shows up in the device explorer
you will need to pay close attention to which rx is A and which is B.. because the inputs are reversed in the PRO.. B is the primary receiver. and will need to be bound that way
you will need to pay close attention to which rx is A and which is B.. because the inputs are reversed in the PRO.. B is the primary receiver. and will need to be bound that way
#238
My Feedback: (40)
You tell the Pro what switch you are using to control the gain/Off in the last step of the setup sequence. Before you do the setup, figure out which channel and switch you plan to use and make sure it has at least 25% "throw". After you go through moving/setting the ailerons, elevator and rudder, the instructions tell you to move/activate the switch you have selected. That's it. Later, you will adjust the gain and off position using the travel function for that channel.
The process is a little different if you use your transmitters "gyro" function but you still need to "teach" the Pro what switch you plan to use.
Page 6 & 7 in the full manual address this.
Craig
#242
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I have it almost done... I am using a switch and the gyro setup, the switch goes -100, 0, 100 and I get programming to the end.... where it flashes green.
Now it only stays green and the gyro works the surfaces right, but the switch has no effect to turn it red or amber....
Now it only stays green and the gyro works the surfaces right, but the switch has no effect to turn it red or amber....
i used the gyro option in the jeti.
check alsomservo settings to check if its not
proportional
#247
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Can somebody please enlighten me on how to do a firmware update? I have downloaded and installed the "bavarianDEMON_ACP_V1.1_Win.exe" from the Bavarian Demon website. The USB cable is plugged in the "Prog" port. When I power up the Cortex the light blinks red first and then changes its color to blue. But then nothing happens and the software always states to "connect a device".
I have also tried a regular Cortex and plugged the USB cable in the right port with the white lead facing the "Cortex logo". Again same result. Light blinks red and then changes the color to amber but the software doesn't find the device.
I have also tried it on 2 different computers and I want to stress I am absolutely no newbie when it comes to computers. Unfortunately the manual does not give any information on how to connect the USB cable to the pro. So what am I doing wrong?
Any ideas?
Thomas
I have also tried a regular Cortex and plugged the USB cable in the right port with the white lead facing the "Cortex logo". Again same result. Light blinks red and then changes the color to amber but the software doesn't find the device.
I have also tried it on 2 different computers and I want to stress I am absolutely no newbie when it comes to computers. Unfortunately the manual does not give any information on how to connect the USB cable to the pro. So what am I doing wrong?
Any ideas?
Thomas
Last edited by bluelevel; 06-06-2017 at 01:31 PM.
#248
You need to use the cable that comes with the Pro (or any 'standard' USB cable). There is only one USB port on the Pro; the single socket on the top.
The cable used on the standard Cortex will not work on the Pro.
The software for the Pro will not work with the standard Cortex.
The cable used on the standard Cortex will not work on the Pro.
The software for the Pro will not work with the standard Cortex.
#250
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OK guys, thanks to your help and this forum I was able to update the software of the Cortex Pro and also to wire it correctly. I got this figured out now, but already have the next question. I find it very positive to be able to adjust the gains and most other functions right through the radio, but why is the gain adjustable between "3" and "20"? This makes the comparison the old percentages of the old Cortex pretty difficult. Also, how do I adjust the flight mode switch not to interfere with the gain set in the radio? The old Cortex understood "-30%" travel as 30% normal/dampening gain, but how will that work with the Pro???
Sorry for my stupid questions, but the manual s*cks big time and the transition from the old to the new Cortex is harder than I thought.
Thomas
Sorry for my stupid questions, but the manual s*cks big time and the transition from the old to the new Cortex is harder than I thought.
Thomas