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Old 02-03-2017, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LA jetguy
Exactly as Digital Pilot and others have said. I set the brakes on during startup and when standing on taxi way waiting to take on the runway. With my transmitter (Jeti DS16/24) i have created a cycling sequencer associated with a switch (parking brakes) which pulses a second of off to re set the brake again...

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A shorter cycle time could be set up to act like an ABS brake
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Old 02-03-2017, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob_B
A shorter cycle time could be set up to act like an ABS brake
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Sort of but in order to provide the real benefit of an ABS system it would need to be able to detect which wheel(s) were locked and control each brake separately to prevent swerving, etc. If it can't do that I don't think it would be any better than simply reducing the braking force since it's proportional. Of course if you use a switch instead of proportional control for your brakes then pulsing them on/off rapidly could be beneficial.
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The main goal is to avoid flat spotting the tires.
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Knock knock...
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Old 02-03-2017, 08:24 AM
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Cool same here.
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Here are some flight photos of my Viper.

I will be putting my smoke tank in series to the main tank for additional fuel. That is the vent of the main will be connected to the pickup of the smoke tank and the vent of the smoke tank to the outside. Even though the vent of the smoke tank is already connected to the outside, its of the smaller diameter. So I will use the bigger vent. To save a little weight I will remove the smoke pump the valve and the smoke injector..LOL

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Old 02-03-2017, 09:55 AM
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David have you weighed the model?
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No... I have not but i will but it on Gaspar CG machine this weekend and will weight it..
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Originally Posted by Bob_B
The main goal is to avoid flat spotting the tires.
Since they are proportional and I use a slider to control brakes I simply adjust them so they just fully lock at max brake setting and apply enough brake to slow the model effectively but not lock up the wheels when set at 50% brake. this allows me to simply land and then move the brake slider to 50% and the airplane stops smoothly without locking up the wheels. I used a Function Curve on the brakes to get these settings but as you say, pulsing the brakes on/off with a sequencer would prevent the wheels from locking up / flat spotting as well. Lots of ways to do things.
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David

ok so to clarify the hds super viper jet brakes anr just on/ full blake and off or i can put them on a back lever un my dx9 and brake proporcionaly?
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Originally Posted by oukenfold
David

ok so to clarify the hds super viper jet brakes anr just on/ full blake and off or i can put them on a back lever un my dx9 and brake proporcionaly?
You can put the brakes on a proportional lever... but keep in mind that the brakes will time out after 40 sec. then you have to pull the lever back and re apply brakes again... don't worry too much about it.. it's not a big deal

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Originally Posted by LA jetguy
No... I have not but i will but it on Gaspar CG machine this weekend and will weight it..
Will appreciate if you can show a pic of the CG measurements on your CG machine too, other than weight. eg nose to mains distance etc. TIA.
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Looks like there won't be any smoke on my Viper. I'll be using the smoke tank for fuel too. Too bad as it looks like a nice little smoke system.
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Originally Posted by cycross
Will appreciate if you can show a pic of the CG measurements on your CG machine too, other than weight. eg nose to mains distance etc. TIA.
Here you go.... The weight is with no battery and UAT full

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Old 02-04-2017, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by causeitflies
Looks like there won't be any smoke on my Viper. I'll be using the smoke tank for fuel too. Too bad as it looks like a nice little smoke system.
Today I flew 6 flights of 7 minutes and 1/3 of the main tank was still full. 80% of the time I was full throttle... But yes I enjoy smoke with a little food coloring....
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I hope to get that much time on my thirsty old P-60.
Old 02-05-2017, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by LA jetguy
Here you go.... The weight is with no battery and UAT full

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Thanks a bunch David!
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Originally Posted by LA jetguy
Here you go.... The weight is with no battery and UAT full

David

Your numbers are quite a bit different than mine. For example I have 720mm Front to Main while you have 760. A 40mm difference is alot and I'm wondering if we perhaps measured differently or if I simply messed up..Did you measure from the front axle to one of the wheel axles on the diagonal or to the center of the axles along the center line ? In other words if you look at the landing gear as forming an isosceles triangle, did you measure the Altitude or one of the side of the triangle.
I measured the Altitude, along the center line of the aircraft and if you measured along the diagonal that could explain the difference in out measurements.
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hello guys do someone here know if this accesory the XICOY TELEMETRY ADAPTER SPEKTRUM http://www.dreamworksrc.com/catalog/...apter-Spektrum works with the new kingtech k60g2? i have the spektrum dx9 and tm1000 module but i am first turbine jet person, and i do not know about ecus version? can some one help thanks.
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Old 02-05-2017, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by oukenfold
hello guys do someone here know if this accesory the XICOY TELEMETRY ADAPTER SPEKTRUM http://www.dreamworksrc.com/catalog/...apter-Spektrum works with the new kingtech k60g2? i have the spektrum dx9 and tm1000 module but i am first turbine jet person, and i do not know about ecus version? can some one help thanks.
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No telemetry for the new G2 ECU yet. Its in the works.
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Originally Posted by wfield0455
Your numbers are quite a bit different than mine. For example I have 720mm Front to Main while you have 760. A 40mm difference is alot and I'm wondering if we perhaps measured differently or if I simply messed up..Did you measure from the front axle to one of the wheel axles on the diagonal or to the center of the axles along the center line ? In other words if you look at the landing gear as forming an isosceles triangle, did you measure the Altitude or one of the side of the triangle.
I measured the Altitude, along the center line of the aircraft and if you measured along the diagonal that could explain the difference in out measurements.
Wayne... I tape a long masking tape on the table and place the nose wheel on the tape with the nose axle in the middle of the tape. Then I measure from the axle of the main "STRAIGHT" to the center of the masking take. I don't cross diagonally from main to nose gear... Maybe thats the difference...

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The difference of the gear straight vs fully compressed is about 40mm.
The measurement should be made while on the scales.

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Originally Posted by causeitflies
The difference of the gear straight vs fully compressed is about 40mm.
The measurement should be made while on the scales.
Well maybe not quite, I was looking at the T-1 gear. Getting these threads mixed up.
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Originally Posted by LA jetguy
Wayne... I tape a long masking tape on the table and place the nose wheel on the tape with the nose axle in the middle of the tape. Then I measure from the axle of the main "STRAIGHT" to the center of the masking take. I don't cross diagonally from main to nose gear... Maybe thats the difference...

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That's how I measured too except I use a laser level to project a line between the main axles and run a tape measure down the center from the nose wheel axle and the laser marks the reading. Don't know how we got such different values. Still the CG machine reads perfectly and lifting at the CG matches.

The gear on the Super Viper doesn't come close to bring fully compressed with a full fuel load let alone fuel only in UAT.. I'll have yo put it together again and double check. Maybe I messed up the coversion from inces to mm but if seem to balance perfectly both ways...

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Originally Posted by wfield0455
That's how I measured too except I use a laser level to project a line between the main axles and run a tape measure down the center from the nose wheel axle and the laser marks the reading. Don't know how we got such different values. Still the CG machine reads perfectly and lifting at the CG matches.

The gear on the Super Viper doesn't come close to bring fully compressed with a full fuel load let alone fuel only in UAT.. I'll have yo put it together again and double check. Maybe I messed up the coversion from inces to mm but if seem to balance perfectly both ways...
Wayne.. I'm traveling now... next time I'm in the hanger I will re measure the Viper and let you know


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