Status of JR Propo ?
04-08-2018, 04:22 AM
#378
Jeti has tons of features, but their RF link is not nearly as robust as the JR DMSS protocol. I can say this after having several club members switch to Jeti, with a couple losing more than one model to unexplained " I ain't got it" type crashes. A quick switch back to their "old" JR equipment and all returned to normal. This is my opinion-your mileage may vary, as they say.
-Mike O.
-Mike O.
04-08-2018, 04:51 AM
#379
Jeti has tons of features, but their RF link is not nearly as robust as the JR DMSS protocol. I can say this after having several club members switch to Jeti, with a couple losing more than one model to unexplained " I ain't got it" type crashes. A quick switch back to their "old" JR equipment and all returned to normal. This is my opinion-your mileage may vary, as they say.
-Mike O.
-Mike O.
04-08-2018, 04:55 AM
#380
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Jeti has tons of features, but their RF link is not nearly as robust as the JR DMSS protocol. I can say this after having several club members switch to Jeti, with a couple losing more than one model to unexplained " I ain't got it" type crashes. A quick switch back to their "old" JR equipment and all returned to normal. This is my opinion-your mileage may vary, as they say.
-Mike O.
-Mike O.
04-08-2018, 05:14 AM
#381
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Jeti has tons of features, but their RF link is not nearly as robust as the JR DMSS protocol. I can say this after having several club members switch to Jeti, with a couple losing more than one model to unexplained " I ain't got it" type crashes. A quick switch back to their "old" JR equipment and all returned to normal. This is my opinion-your mileage may vary, as they say.
-Mike O.
-Mike O.
This is new to me
04-08-2018, 06:23 AM
#383
Jeti has tons of features, but their RF link is not nearly as robust as the JR DMSS protocol. I can say this after having several club members switch to Jeti, with a couple losing more than one model to unexplained " I ain't got it" type crashes. A quick switch back to their "old" JR equipment and all returned to normal. This is my opinion-your mileage may vary, as they say.
-Mike O.
-Mike O.
Last edited by luv2flyrc; 04-08-2018 at 06:39 AM.
04-08-2018, 08:19 AM
#384
There are no "unexplained" JETI crashes. There is a complete Telemetry/ RF log provided to EXPLAIN everything if the user sets it up!!!!! I would bet big bucks that the crashes weren't RF related.....Most crashes of any radio are dumb thumbs and the dumb thumber doesn't realize it and blames the radio.
04-08-2018, 11:04 AM
#385
I would not look for anything very soon. The bankruptcy court denied the sale of the JR PROPO trademark and the IP stuff was not sold either. So.... The new guys are going to have to get FCC certs all over again. I also heard that since there wasn't any engineering stuff they could get a hold of, that means a complete start over. The articles I've seen about it say that the new buyer has succeeded in attracting some former JR employees who might be able to help speed up that process.
04-09-2018, 05:15 PM
#388
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In my opinion James is excellent at Esprit.
But if you dont like Esprit then you can buy from Danny at Aeropanda who is also excellent.
The demise of JR is sad to me. My first JR was a Max 6 Computer FM with a Circus Circus Hobby sticker on the back. This was around 1989 or so. I knew I had made it to the “big time” when I bought my 10X! LOL! I flew JR until the big JR / Horizon split. I went with Spektrum because JR at that point became a red headed step child so to speak. No dancing partner. It was the beginning of the end in my opinion for JR.
Even after that I flew JR servos until 8711HV’s became unavailable. Still have them in one of my jets. Since then I’ve had to find a go to servo after having flown JR for 25 years.
The only thing constant is change so sad as it may be I like many of us have had to make some difficult decisions.
To each their own. I still fly prop planes with a DX9 but (was kinda forced to) switched to Jeti a year ago for my jets. The key is to be confident in the equipment you’re using and have a reason for that confidence ... not just blind faith. Systems now give us more redundancy, safety margins, and data than ever before. All the data can make you over analyze things at times. Ask me how I know! LOL! In the end our systems are more reliable than ever when chosen and applied correctly to the right application. I’m just sad that JR is no longer part of the picture.
Good luck to everyone in finding the right system for them.
JS
But if you dont like Esprit then you can buy from Danny at Aeropanda who is also excellent.
The demise of JR is sad to me. My first JR was a Max 6 Computer FM with a Circus Circus Hobby sticker on the back. This was around 1989 or so. I knew I had made it to the “big time” when I bought my 10X! LOL! I flew JR until the big JR / Horizon split. I went with Spektrum because JR at that point became a red headed step child so to speak. No dancing partner. It was the beginning of the end in my opinion for JR.
Even after that I flew JR servos until 8711HV’s became unavailable. Still have them in one of my jets. Since then I’ve had to find a go to servo after having flown JR for 25 years.
The only thing constant is change so sad as it may be I like many of us have had to make some difficult decisions.
To each their own. I still fly prop planes with a DX9 but (was kinda forced to) switched to Jeti a year ago for my jets. The key is to be confident in the equipment you’re using and have a reason for that confidence ... not just blind faith. Systems now give us more redundancy, safety margins, and data than ever before. All the data can make you over analyze things at times. Ask me how I know! LOL! In the end our systems are more reliable than ever when chosen and applied correctly to the right application. I’m just sad that JR is no longer part of the picture.
Good luck to everyone in finding the right system for them.
JS
Last edited by jsnipes; 04-09-2018 at 05:19 PM.
04-09-2018, 06:08 PM
#389
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RC Depot Dee Force Aviation (DFA) is very close to having FCC certification and CE. True that Jtec will have DFA products available and DFA will have products on EBAY for end of this month. DFA will also have a service center opening up soon in LA and a USA/English version of the online store is in the works. The old JR Japan engineers that were not being paid by JR Japan when a JR Japan employee stole funds from them are now working for RC Depot. All equipment will be compatible and the same quality or better than JR Japan of the past. Some servos will now have Japanese motors instead of Chinese ones, new redesigned gear train and better electronics. Like receivers go the old (new) multi channel ones from JRA had a odd and even receiver to get more than 12,14 or 16 channels. The new ones from DFA can be set up so that channels 1-6,1-7, and 1-8 are in one receiver if want more and not use XBUS type setup you just add another receiver for 7-12, 8-14 and 9-16. Anyway the information coming from JRA is false and isn't hear say either. JRA will say we are just going on Rc Depots word but trust me what JRA puts out there is false.
04-09-2018, 06:28 PM
#390
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In my opinion James is excellent at Esprit.
But if you dont like Esprit then you can buy from Danny at Aeropanda who is also excellent.
The demise of JR is sad to me. My first JR was a Max 6 Computer FM with a Circus Circus Hobby sticker on the back. This was around 1989 or so. I knew I had made it to the “big time” when I bought my 10X! LOL! I flew JR until the big JR / Horizon split. I went with Spektrum because JR at that point became a red headed step child so to speak. No dancing partner. It was the beginning of the end in my opinion for JR.
Even after that I flew JR servos until 8711HV’s became unavailable. Still have them in one of my jets. Since then I’ve had to find a go to servo after having flown JR for 25 years.
The only thing constant is change so sad as it may be I like many of us have had to make some difficult decisions.
To each their own. I still fly prop planes with a DX9 but (was kinda forced to) switched to Jeti a year ago for my jets. The key is to be confident in the equipment you’re using and have a reason for that confidence ... not just blind faith. Systems now give us more redundancy, safety margins, and data than ever before. All the data can make you over analyze things at times. Ask me how I know! LOL! In the end our systems are more reliable than ever when chosen and applied correctly to the right application. I’m just sad that JR is no longer part of the picture.
Good luck to everyone in finding the right system for them.
JS
But if you dont like Esprit then you can buy from Danny at Aeropanda who is also excellent.
The demise of JR is sad to me. My first JR was a Max 6 Computer FM with a Circus Circus Hobby sticker on the back. This was around 1989 or so. I knew I had made it to the “big time” when I bought my 10X! LOL! I flew JR until the big JR / Horizon split. I went with Spektrum because JR at that point became a red headed step child so to speak. No dancing partner. It was the beginning of the end in my opinion for JR.
Even after that I flew JR servos until 8711HV’s became unavailable. Still have them in one of my jets. Since then I’ve had to find a go to servo after having flown JR for 25 years.
The only thing constant is change so sad as it may be I like many of us have had to make some difficult decisions.
To each their own. I still fly prop planes with a DX9 but (was kinda forced to) switched to Jeti a year ago for my jets. The key is to be confident in the equipment you’re using and have a reason for that confidence ... not just blind faith. Systems now give us more redundancy, safety margins, and data than ever before. All the data can make you over analyze things at times. Ask me how I know! LOL! In the end our systems are more reliable than ever when chosen and applied correctly to the right application. I’m just sad that JR is no longer part of the picture.
Good luck to everyone in finding the right system for them.
JS
04-09-2018, 06:43 PM
#391
DFA is doing this correct. They are partnering with US Companies to bring product in. They are developing new product, utilizing the trustworthy engineers acquired from JR Japan. They are building a US Team of pilots. They are attending the Big Trade shows in some form.
And of course they are having to put up with opposition to what they are doing by companies who chose to lie about what they are doing, while those misleading companies don't even have facts to back their claims up.
DFA is the answer to the bankrupt JR brand that we all loved.
Glad to have them on board.
And of course they are having to put up with opposition to what they are doing by companies who chose to lie about what they are doing, while those misleading companies don't even have facts to back their claims up.
DFA is the answer to the bankrupt JR brand that we all loved.
Glad to have them on board.
04-09-2018, 09:06 PM
#392
One of the things about the 8x11 line of JR line of servos is that they were tried and tested. Sure, there might have been room for improvement but they had an excellent reputation for reliability and overall performance. Hopefully, if the new company has the correct ex-JR employees on board (do we know exactly which ones are remaining with the new company?) then we might see some good new products. However, until the brand is proven then to me I will have to treat it like a new company making new servos.
If they could re-introduce a couple of the old JR servos first (exactly as they were) then it would show that they have the technical information (tooling?) and expertise to do so. If they can’t then it’s just another manufacturing company employing some of the old JR staff. In the mean time there is a host of other reputable companies filling the void and gaining popularity with their new offerings.
I have my fingers crossed and having a chance that someone may be able to re-introduce JR quality servos is clearly better than no chance at all, but I won’t just assume they are the same. They will have to prove themselves first.
04-09-2018, 09:19 PM
#393
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Any JR product made after after march can not be sold anywhere. As far as I know there was six engineers working for JR Japan and Rc Depot has six now from JR Japan. Treat them as new if you want but I have full confidence in their products. The not proven thing comes from JRA who is upset they don't have anything to sell and customers saw through the lies. Its a hobby and use what brand you want. I will be using DFA every chance I can.
04-11-2018, 09:15 AM
#399
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Have you ever flown a plane and crashed and said that was stupid? two or three of there guys flying aerobatics crashed their plane trying something and crashed their plane. Also remember Japanese culture is a little different from the U.S. just as the UK is different from us here.