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Old 12-13-2017, 08:56 AM
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Hi Lior

As I wrote before I am a newcomer to the jet scene. Up to now I flew big gas engine models and an electric (12S) Pilatus PC-21.
At least in the gas engine models we always are aware of the vibrations and the equipment is chosen to withstand these problems. To you and all the other jet pilots this is of non importance, I know...
I saw that you use one single receiver with the DPSI Mini Magic and the Cortex Black Demon Gyro. In Europe quite a lot of jet people fly the Powerbox Mercury SRS equipped with two receivers e.g. Futaba R7008SB. In this case redundancy is assured.
In one way I would like to have things as secure as possible (2 receivers) but the whole also as easy as possible,
With the DPSI one only receiver can be used, with the Powerbox Mercury two (SRS)
Which gyro is easier in programming? What would you suggest?

Thank you for your suggestions and best regards from Switzerland, Daniel
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can one of you owners reply with the length of pushrods needed for the surfaces. i wish to buy nice ones from booma rc or such but need to know what size to get for each surface.

I FOUND THE ANSWER IN THE MANUAL I DOWN LOADED
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Old 12-14-2017, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Swissy
Hi Lior

As I wrote before I am a newcomer to the jet scene. Up to now I flew big gas engine models and an electric (12S) Pilatus PC-21.
At least in the gas engine models we always are aware of the vibrations and the equipment is chosen to withstand these problems. To you and all the other jet pilots this is of non importance, I know...
I saw that you use one single receiver with the DPSI Mini Magic and the Cortex Black Demon Gyro. In Europe quite a lot of jet people fly the Powerbox Mercury SRS equipped with two receivers e.g. Futaba R7008SB. In this case redundancy is assured.
In one way I would like to have things as secure as possible (2 receivers) but the whole also as easy as possible,
With the DPSI one only receiver can be used, with the Powerbox Mercury two (SRS)
Which gyro is easier in programming? What would you suggest?

Thank you for your suggestions and best regards from Switzerland, Daniel
I have found the Cortex to be much easier to setup and much better to fly.
and the single Rx setup works very well for me - i have flown both single and dual receiver setups for many years, and find the single works very well.
i really like this setup - well priced, reliable and very effective.
Old 12-16-2017, 02:14 PM
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Hello guys.

Shaul measured his crow mix and here are the numbers:

Ailerons at root go up 12.5mm.
Full flaps at root 70mm
Elevator compensation at root 7mm
Old 12-22-2017, 02:00 AM
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Hi guys,

How much weight do you need in the plane to have correct CG ?

Best regards
Old 12-22-2017, 05:30 AM
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That would depend on component selection, where you put batteries etc.
Old 12-22-2017, 05:48 AM
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Of course...but what did YOU put in ?

For me : 300 g in the nose (no pilot, no black plastic cockpit, 2 x 2S 3000 for réception near steering wheel, 4000 mah for turbine, 2 x 400 mah for brakes and train, king tech 120 and powerbox Mercury).
Old 12-22-2017, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by darkhan
hi guys,

how much weight do you need in the plane to have correct cg ?

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Old 12-22-2017, 04:54 PM
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Balanced by battery location, NO extra weight needed.
Old 12-23-2017, 12:56 AM
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Ok thanks. What’s your total weight UAT full / tank empty ?
13.5 kg for mine.
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Hi all
Can you tell me what size of Intairco-Hopper I should use for a Kingtech 14kg Turbine? (175 ml or 250 ml)
Don't know if there is enough space to put it next to the front gear in 90° angle to flight direction...
Thanks, Daniel
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Hallo Daniel 175ml reicht.gruss chris
Old 01-18-2018, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Swissy
Hi all

Can you tell me what size of Intairco-Hopper I should use for a Kingtech 14kg Turbine? (175 ml or 250 ml)
Don't know if there is enough space to put it next to the front gear in 90° angle to flight direction...
Thanks, Daniel

My Odyssey has a 100ml FCT UAT. so i guess for you probably 175ml.
Old 01-18-2018, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Swissy
Hi all
Can you tell me what size of Intairco-Hopper I should use for a Kingtech 14kg Turbine? (175 ml or 250 ml)
Don't know if there is enough space to put it next to the front gear in 90° angle to flight direction...
Thanks, Daniel
When it comes to UATs no such thing as too big....(except of course where space is concerned)
I was running aCheetah and put a 250ml in
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Old 02-01-2018, 06:30 AM
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How slow can the odyssey land?? are there any videos featuring slow landings?
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It can land very slow. It’s very stable
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Pattern planes (odyssey type) are very predictable and stable, however, when it comes to slowing down certain airframes, it might be a bit difficult, and from many videos I have seen Odyssey has a tendency to float and needs quite some runway. Unfortunately I do not have the luxury on having a long runway where I fly. Our field is located on top of a hill at 1400m altitude it is 120 meters paved runway surrounded by rocky/sandy valley scenery .
I have no problem flying my Boomerang Intro and XL as well as HSD Super Viper. Thought though it was time for a change and maybe for a change the Odyssey could be a candidate??
Under above circumstances Landing speed and possibility is the only criteria to chose adequate jet.

Regards,
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Originally Posted by extra 300
Pattern planes (odyssey type) are very predictable and stable, however, when it comes to slowing down certain airframes, it might be a bit difficult, and from many videos I have seen Odyssey has a tendency to float and needs quite some runway. Unfortunately I do not have the luxury on having a long runway where I fly. Our field is located on top of a hill at 1400m altitude it is 120 meters paved runway surrounded by rocky/sandy valley scenery .
I have no problem flying my Boomerang Intro and XL as well as HSD Super Viper. Thought though it was time for a change and maybe for a change the Odyssey could be a candidate??
Under above circumstances Landing speed and possibility is the only criteria to chose adequate jet.

Regards,
this is a very accurate description actually.
its a very clean airfrmae and as such doesnt slow down very fast - crow mix helps, and its possible to fly it on 120m, but it will take moderately good piloting skills to keep it 100% safe.
Old 02-19-2018, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by i3dm
That is actually a great question and i am very happy you asked!

The T1 / Odyssey are in fact different from the UF.
The UF is designed to withstand extreme loads, and flys completely different then these two. Faster and heavier. A 2.4m odyssey weighs nearly the same as a 2.1m UF!

The T1 and Odyssey are more of the modern style sport jets, for more "floating", slower precise aerobatics.
While both are quite capable of flying fast, they are not a UF in that sense. The odyssey is faster than the T1 though.

With that being said, the flying i do with both is where i feel comfortable, part of the UF speed experience is that i never felt comfortable flying slow aerobatics with it (did like the high speed stuff!), while with these the more graceful flying feels right at home. So naturally this ia where my flying style goes when i fly them, and im very happy with this transition.

Another reason for at least the Odyssey flying being a bit more cautious in these videos is that these are just the first 2 maiden flights, of a new model i dont know well yet, and is not yet 100% tuned (CG, control throws) to my liking. So once i get a few more flights in, i will surely make more videos, of higher speed flying also.

Bottom line, they are all great models, the odyssey is much bigger than the UF, feels much lighter, and easier.
If you want to fly like a scolded cat, get a UF and if you want a larger, easier floatier sport jet with great capabilities (significantly cheaper too) get the Odyssey.

About the 2 piece fuselage, while i didnt build mine as a 2 piece design, im sure that if you do, it will be very easy to assemble.
The 2 piece fuse assembles together with 6 M6 screws and you can build the entire fuel system on the back fuse, with only electrical wiring connectors at the joint.

Thank you for the feedback, i do appriciate it very much, and look forward to enjoying this new exciting jet and sharing the results
I'm considering this or the T1. Which do you prefer? Either one noticeably stronger than the other?

Thanks!
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stronger in what sense?
Old 02-21-2018, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by i3dm
stronger in what sense?
Just overall more robust. I used to have an Ultra Flash and I know neither of these are in that category but is either one closer than the other?

Do you have a preference between the Odyssey and the T-One?
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models are very different in almost every way.
i enjoy them both.
structurally the odyssey is probably a bit more robust since its not made of airex sandwich.
the airex is what makes the T1 so light giving it its great flight qualities.

both are really good models. just different. you cant go wrong with either.
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Would you say that Odyssey is more of a pattern style plane? I am looking for something that can handle speed, is locked in, and grooves/rails. Something that is most like the Flash or Bandit.
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Originally Posted by IFlyEm35
Would you say that Odyssey is more of a pattern style plane? I am looking for something that can handle speed, is locked in, and grooves/rails. Something that is most like the Flash or Bandit.
Short answer: YES.
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Just putting mine togather and want to reduce ballast with a forward air trap. Question is do you calculate the C of G with the trap filled?

Cheers Dave


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