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Old 10-29-2018, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Tip22v

there are a lot of options out there for redundant power, many of them less expensive than a Mercury SRS, for example, you could just use to LiFe receiver batteries plugged into a Spektrum Power Safe Receiver. Or if all servos are HV, you could use two Lipo batteries, lots of options there. I don’t have a Jeti radio but they have a dual battery setup as well.
With the Mercury on Spektrum, you just plug your four satellites, all servos and two batteries into the Mercury, which simplifies the number of separate components a bit. Mercury is nice, but again it’s pricey. I just bought a Demon Cortex and it was $250, the Mercury SRS is $409, but you get power distribution, so you just have figure out what works best for your situation. The more simple you keep it the better, but jets by their nature can more complex and it’s always to keep safety in mind. -Tom
Wow Tom, thank you so much for the help! I will be using the Graupner MZ-32 for this project and will get it much sooner than the airframe so I will have some time to learn its capabilities. That being said I am leaning towards the Mercury and just going that route since it packs so many features. I think for today I'll let my bank account rest since I have a long wait ahead of me. I very much like the idea of power distribution. My servos will be pre-installed Savox and I'm not sure if they are HV or not. I've done so much reading since placing my order I think my brain is getting cloudy on all of this at the moment.

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Old 10-29-2018, 11:36 AM
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Zach,
The servos are probably 1250, which are HV. The Mercury can be configured for 6v or 7.4v regulated output so either way you’ll be good. The Mercury can be used with or without GPS, I’m using GPS with all of mine.. With GPS, the gain on the gyro is automatically adjusted for aircraft speed. I’m not sure it’s worth the additional cost or not. Good luck with your build, don’t by be afraid to ask more questions, there is a lot of collective expertise on this thread to help. -Tom
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Originally Posted by Tip22v
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The servos are probably 1250, which are HV. The Mercury can be configured for 6v or 7.4v regulated output so either way you’ll be good. The Mercury can be used with or without GPS, I’m using GPS with all of mine.. With GPS, the gain on the gyro is automatically adjusted for aircraft speed. I’m not sure it’s worth the additional cost or not. Good luck with your build, don’t by be afraid to ask more questions, there is a lot of collective expertise on this thread to help. -Tom
So I had to wait 24 hours to post again and kinda forgot where my brain was yesterday on all of this lol. So one question I have is do you use the gyro during all phases of flight including take off and landing? I've definitely decided on getting the Mercury SRS but reliability came into my mind. Are there failures on these units that you guys know of?
My new Graupner is on it's way and will be here on Monday. I'm tempted to install it on one of my edf jets so I can acclimate myself to its programming prior to using it for the mini t1. Does anyone else here use the Graupner transmitter while flying this airframe? I appreciate all the advice given so far and Tom thank you for all the feedback. For my next trick I need to find someone in Fort Worth to help me get my turbine waiver lol.

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Anybody know if the mercury srs will output telemetry when used with spektrum sats? I’m waffling between mercury and the new power safe system.

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Originally Posted by airborn900
Anybody know if the mercury srs will output telemetry when used with spektrum sats? I’m waffling between mercury and the new power safe system.

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Yes but you need the Spektrun Telemetry Module. I just finished setting up a Mercury SRS with the igyro on a buddies plane.
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Originally Posted by airborn900
Anybody know if the mercury srs will output telemetry when used with spektrum sats? I’m waffling between mercury and the new power safe system.

Thanks

Ryan
Yes but you need the Spektrum Telemetry Module. I just finished setting up a Mercury SRS with the igyro on a buddies plane.
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[QUOTE=ZachU;12474772]So I had to wait 24 hours to post again and kinda forgot where my brain was yesterday on all of this lol. So one question I have is do you use the gyro during all phases of flight including take off and landing? I've definitely decided on getting the Mercury SRS but reliability came into my mind. Are there failures on these units that you guys know of?
My new Graupner is on it's way and will be here on Monday. I'm tempted to install it on one of my edf jets so I can acclimate myself to its programming prior to using it for the mini t1. Does anyone else here use the Graupner transmitter while flying this airframe? I appreciate all the advice given so far and Tom thank you for all the feedback. For my next trick I need to find someone in Fort Worth to help me get my turbine waiver lol.

Zach[/QUOTE
I fly the gyro on for all phases of flight, but I don’t fly in “hold” mode, just rate mode.
Never heard of any failures but it would be best to move that part of the discussion to another forum specifically for the Mercury SRS, you will get more accurate info there and we’ll be better able to keep this forum on the subject of the T1 mini. -Tom
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[QUOTE=Tip22v;12474805]
Originally Posted by ZachU
So I had to wait 24 hours to post again and kinda forgot where my brain was yesterday on all of this lol. So one question I have is do you use the gyro during all phases of flight including take off and landing? I've definitely decided on getting the Mercury SRS but reliability came into my mind. Are there failures on these units that you guys know of?
My new Graupner is on it's way and will be here on Monday. I'm tempted to install it on one of my edf jets so I can acclimate myself to its programming prior to using it for the mini t1. Does anyone else here use the Graupner transmitter while flying this airframe? I appreciate all the advice given so far and Tom thank you for all the feedback. For my next trick I need to find someone in Fort Worth to help me get my turbine waiver lol.

Zach[/QUOTE
I fly the gyro on for all phases of flight, but I don’t fly in “hold” mode, just rate mode.
Never heard of any failures but it would be best to move that part of the discussion to another forum specifically for the Mercury SRS, you will get more accurate info there and we’ll be better able to keep this forum on the subject of the T1 mini. -Tom
Yeah no worries I thought about that after I replied. Thanks for the information regardless.
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[QUOTE=ZachU;12474807]
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Yeah no worries I thought about that after I replied. Thanks for the information regardless.
Keep us posted on your build progress, you will love this jet
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Will do and thanks Tom!
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So I had to wait 24 hours to post again and kinda forgot where my brain was yesterday on all of this lol. So one question I have is do you use the gyro during all phases of flight including take off and landing? I've definitely decided on getting the Mercury SRS but reliability came into my mind. Are there failures on these units that you guys know of?
My new Graupner is on it's way and will be here on Monday. I'm tempted to install it on one of my edf jets so I can acclimate myself to its programming prior to using it for the mini t1. Does anyone else here use the Graupner transmitter while flying this airframe? I appreciate all the advice given so far and Tom thank you for all the feedback. For my next trick I need to find someone in Fort Worth to help me get my turbine waiver lol.
ZachU, the original mercury srs that came out with the 6-axis gyro had some issues only with some units. Make sure you have the 3-axis unit. Here is the link of the issues people were having.

Problem with Mercury SRS gyro with 18MZ - Mercury SRS - PowerBox-Systems | Support-Forum

The case of the Mercury says 6-axis on both the real 6-axis and the newer 3-axis systems. Hope this helps.

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Anyone have one delivered recently to the states with the new china tariffs? Thought I saw a warming on the pacific jets website saying a possible 25% tariff would be the responsibility of the buyer.
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I have another Mini on order, what really sucks is that I already paid for it, so now I don't have any choice but to pay the extra $500 or loose the 2k I already shelled out. I guess it's just a waiting game now to see if the tariffs will actually apply to these jets. If we do have to pay the tariff do we pay PacficRCJets, or would we get a bill from the US Customs Department? -Tom
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Originally Posted by tulz161
Anyone have one delivered recently to the states with the new china tariffs? Thought I saw a warming on the pacific jets website saying a possible 25% tariff would be the responsibility of the buyer.
That.... sucks...
Old 11-01-2018, 11:22 AM
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My Mini T1 is for sale if anybody is interested, PM me.
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Originally Posted by Tip22v
I have another Mini on order, what really sucks is that I already paid for it, so now I don't have any choice but to pay the extra $500 or loose the 2k I already shelled out. I guess it's just a waiting game now to see if the tariffs will actually apply to these jets. If we do have to pay the tariff do we pay PacficRCJets, or would we get a bill from the US Customs Department? -Tom
I have a plane ordered coming from China soon. While concerning, I'm not losing sleep over it. I have heard no one getting dinged for a plane. I am going to stay optimistic until I hear of someone that has gotten hit with the tax.
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I have a friend just got a T1 couple of weeks ago, don't recall him saying anything about getting hit with any tariff taxes.
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That’s encouraging. Thanks, Tom
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I don't know when the tariffs started, but I got mine in the last week of August. No tariffs.
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Finally got to Maiden my Mini today. I flew one 5 minute flight. I used a slight bit more then 1/2 a tank.
Ailerons needed no trim.
Elevators , Flaps up, Elev raised 2 mm above the outboard side where it was level with the tip.
Flaps approach, 1 mm up from the tip
Flaps landing, 1 mm down. this is below the 2 mm up for level flight with no flap.Looks like 3 mm dn from flap up level flight.
Curious if these numbers are close to those flying around the 190 + Balance point.
Plane flew very well, rock solid, stable.
Landing a little faster then I would have liked.Just landed a little beyond where I wanted to.
All in all very easy maiden..
Stan
Easy to see why this is such a popular airplane.
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Originally Posted by Westwindpilot86
ZachU, the original mercury srs that came out with the 6-axis gyro had some issues only with some units. Make sure you have the 3-axis unit. Here is the link of the issues people were having.


The case of the Mercury says 6-axis on both the real 6-axis and the newer 3-axis systems. Hope this helps.

Steven
Steven,

Wow! Thank you for that link. Really concerning. Not sure how I will proceed after reading that. To keep on topic here I will converse off this thread at a later date. You guys rock for being so helpful. I'm through week 1 of possibly 12, waiting for my jet to arrive lol.
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ZachU,
only if you have the early mercury's would there be any concern. If you have a newer mercury I wouldn't hesitate to fly with it using the gyro.
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IThanks for the link. I too am having second thoughts about using the Mercury in the smaller T1 mini, the smaller the jet the closer it will be mounted to he turbine, and thus more susceptible to turbine noise. None of my three are the newer version. -Tom
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I'm flying this jet with a simple R12 receiver...and one additional R3 on the side of the fuel tank...the mercury PB would be better in something like the T-1 or T-3....keeping it simple and lighter is the key...
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Luckily, I have some time to figure this out. I am getting my new Graupner MZ-32 today instead of Monday so I am going to do some reading over the weekend. I looked at some of their telemetry modules and may just go that route with a cortex and some sort of battery redundancy. I like the idea of keeping this jet light and I think I could potentially get a lot of features without the mercury.

Who else on this thread is still running the k70 on the mini T-1? What kind of top end speed are you getting and do you regret not going with a k85?

Zach


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