New Sport Jet: T-One Models Mini Fortune / Mini T1
#77
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Mini t1
Cool, Snarky, Fast, Sierra Hotel ! All superlatives to describe the Mini T-1. Easily fits in a Mini SUV and five minutes after arriving at the field she is ready for fuel. 10 minute flights with the K-70. Nothing but pure enjoyment, and after 14 flights she looks as good as it did right out of the box. Need I mention it lands as easily as a Giant Ugly Stik! Perfect airplane for an old man.........
Stan from Tucson here.
I can get mini in the jolly Roger scheme a little afraid it would be hard to see.
you have had just about all the schemes what do you think of being able to see it being it is small to start with.
Stan
#78
Hi Stan,
As discussed on the telephone this morning; at our age I've found the VF-84 scheme to be rather difficult to see. For that reason I rarely fly my 120 size Phantom anymore. Dirk has a bunch of designs for the Mini that stand out and present a clean profile. Good luck partner.
Chris
As discussed on the telephone this morning; at our age I've found the VF-84 scheme to be rather difficult to see. For that reason I rarely fly my 120 size Phantom anymore. Dirk has a bunch of designs for the Mini that stand out and present a clean profile. Good luck partner.
Chris
#79
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Getting closer to finishing my mini T-1, I have a question though, I’m about to put the servos in the wing and tail (Savox 1250) with the mounts that come with the kit you cannot use the rubber mounting grommets, is everyone hard mounting their servos and having no issues?
#85
Nice flying! I'm planning to go with a K-85 in mine too, have the K85, still waiting on the airframe. Can you post some pictures of your K-85 installation? I saw some photos of another jet with a K-70 where he had to trim the bulkhead to get the turbine bracket to fit, just trying to figure out if I will need to trim the bulkhead to mount the K-85. -Thx Tom
#89
Exhaust Pipe Clearance
emart,
Do you have any photos of your tailpipe exit with respect to the fuselage? Irrespective of the engine is there a minimal protrusion pass the fuselage desired to keep heat out of the fuselage after shutdown?
Cheers
Desert Fox 1
Do you have any photos of your tailpipe exit with respect to the fuselage? Irrespective of the engine is there a minimal protrusion pass the fuselage desired to keep heat out of the fuselage after shutdown?
Cheers
Desert Fox 1
#93
Emart, assuming the two batteries in the picture are for your radio, where did you place your turbine and retract/brakes batteries? UPS is delivering my mini today, so stoked! Thx, Tom.
#94
Tip22 correct the 2 1300 mah are the Rx packs the 2200 3 cell turbine pack is underneath the Rx packs...For the brakes and retracts I just took a lead from one of the Rx packs to feed the controller
Ed
Ed
#95
Thx Ed, I'm hoping to be able to do something similar with my placement, but it all depends on the CG. Seems like there is significant variation with regards to where folks are placing their batteries to get to 200mm range. -Tom
#96
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to get to 200mm i had to put my packs way back, 2 rx packs above the front of turbine, and ecu pack on front of fuel tank.
i do not understand how others balance with packs up front in nose. no feasible explaination for this variation in weight spread on the jet.
#97
Short of there being significant differences in the weight of the airframe itself, which is highly unlikely, it seems there can only be two possible explanations:
One is that folks are not actually balancing their aircraft the same way which means some folks think their at 200mm when maybe they are really farther forward than that. This could be explained by pilots having different interpretations of what nose heavy really feels like in flight so everyone thinks their jet is flying great the way it is. I use a XICOY CG computer, but it's only as accurate as the measurements I put in e.g. distance from front wheel to rear wheels. It would be interesting if a couple of folks with significant variation in battery placement both used the same type of CG computer with the same exact dimensions, that way we could take the human factor out of the equation to better understand why this is happening. I'm in the process of building mine, would love to compare Xicoy readings with someone when I get it finished.
Two: I've seen some variation from photos on where folks are mounting their turbines. Perhaps some folks are mounting slightly forward, whereas others might be mounting farther back. Also, the K70 is a few oz lighter than the K-60 and K85 so that might explain some of it as well (althought Loir, I believe you are using a K60, which is heavier than a K70 so that would not explain your situation). I'm not sure if this slight variation would affect the CG enough to require batteries to move that much but it's certainly worth considering. Another possibility is the other equipment being installed e.g. servos, servo harness and placement of things like the UAT receiver etc. I'm using the pre made wiring harness from PacificRC and I noticed it is not very light.
One is that folks are not actually balancing their aircraft the same way which means some folks think their at 200mm when maybe they are really farther forward than that. This could be explained by pilots having different interpretations of what nose heavy really feels like in flight so everyone thinks their jet is flying great the way it is. I use a XICOY CG computer, but it's only as accurate as the measurements I put in e.g. distance from front wheel to rear wheels. It would be interesting if a couple of folks with significant variation in battery placement both used the same type of CG computer with the same exact dimensions, that way we could take the human factor out of the equation to better understand why this is happening. I'm in the process of building mine, would love to compare Xicoy readings with someone when I get it finished.
Two: I've seen some variation from photos on where folks are mounting their turbines. Perhaps some folks are mounting slightly forward, whereas others might be mounting farther back. Also, the K70 is a few oz lighter than the K-60 and K85 so that might explain some of it as well (althought Loir, I believe you are using a K60, which is heavier than a K70 so that would not explain your situation). I'm not sure if this slight variation would affect the CG enough to require batteries to move that much but it's certainly worth considering. Another possibility is the other equipment being installed e.g. servos, servo harness and placement of things like the UAT receiver etc. I'm using the pre made wiring harness from PacificRC and I noticed it is not very light.
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#98
I balanced mine inverted on my finger tips ,, to get it close, bigger jets I use a CG machine then I fly pull a 45 vertical roll inverted and see how it performs I like rear CG so very little down elevator is needed for inverted flight
Ed
Ed
#99
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Short of there being significant differences in the weight of the airframe itself, which is highly unlikely, it seems there can only be two possible explanations:
One is that folks are not actually balancing their aircraft the same way which means some folks think their at 200mm when maybe they are really farther forward than that. This could be explained by pilots having different interpretations of what nose heavy really feels like in flight so everyone thinks their jet is flying great the way it is. I use a XICOY CG computer, but it's only as accurate as the measurements I put in e.g. distance from front wheel to rear wheels. It would be interesting if a couple of folks with significant variation in battery placement both used the same type of CG computer with the same exact dimensions, that way we could take the human factor out of the equation to better understand why this is happening. I'm in the process of building mine, would love to compare Xicoy readings with someone when I get it finished.
Two: I've seen some variation from photos on where folks are mounting their turbines. Perhaps some folks are mounting slightly forward, whereas others might be mounting farther back. Also, the K70 is a few oz lighter than the K-60 and K85 so that might explain some of it as well (althought Loir, I believe you are using a K60, which is heavier than a K70 so that would not explain your situation). I'm not sure if this slight variation would affect the CG enough to require batteries to move that much but it's certainly worth considering. Another possibility is the other equipment being installed e.g. servos, servo harness and placement of things like the UAT receiver etc. I'm using the pre made wiring harness from PacificRC and I noticed it is not very light.
One is that folks are not actually balancing their aircraft the same way which means some folks think their at 200mm when maybe they are really farther forward than that. This could be explained by pilots having different interpretations of what nose heavy really feels like in flight so everyone thinks their jet is flying great the way it is. I use a XICOY CG computer, but it's only as accurate as the measurements I put in e.g. distance from front wheel to rear wheels. It would be interesting if a couple of folks with significant variation in battery placement both used the same type of CG computer with the same exact dimensions, that way we could take the human factor out of the equation to better understand why this is happening. I'm in the process of building mine, would love to compare Xicoy readings with someone when I get it finished.
Two: I've seen some variation from photos on where folks are mounting their turbines. Perhaps some folks are mounting slightly forward, whereas others might be mounting farther back. Also, the K70 is a few oz lighter than the K-60 and K85 so that might explain some of it as well (althought Loir, I believe you are using a K60, which is heavier than a K70 so that would not explain your situation). I'm not sure if this slight variation would affect the CG enough to require batteries to move that much but it's certainly worth considering. Another possibility is the other equipment being installed e.g. servos, servo harness and placement of things like the UAT receiver etc. I'm using the pre made wiring harness from PacificRC and I noticed it is not very light.
my CG is pretty neutral meaning very little down elevator for inverted flight and the nose is EMPTY.
batteries way back.
#100
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Started on my Mini T1. Loving this kit so far. All the turbine installs I've seen on this thread have had the pipe/turbine distance all over the map. In order to get the ideal pipe placement, I wanted the turbine right on the former. So I notched the mounting bracket. This allowed for an, IMO, ideal pipe gap and the pipe at the right point at the back. I'm also hoping that putting the turbine this far back will keep me from having to put the batteries in the middle of the jet like Lior did.
Last edited by DrScoles; 01-23-2018 at 08:33 PM.