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Old 11-07-2018, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mauryr View Post
What's that plate you taped over the main tank?
I cover it in the video but SM cut a random hole in the tank in an odd location so I had to seal the hole.
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Old 11-08-2018, 02:23 AM
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Fender have you measured the fuel capacity?
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Old 11-08-2018, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Levi Wags View Post
Fender have you measured the fuel capacity?
Not yet its on the list, I forgot to do that on the Tomcat but not this time I will post the results once done. My saddle tanks are different than the early versions so it maybe different than those tanks.
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by IFLYBVM2 View Post
Thanks to Fender for taking the time to do the thread, and we all know it takes serious time to upload the pics and do the text.
I know I am just repeating what everyone else already knows, but it is ridiculous to have to fix this many things on a fully painted, multi thousand dollar jet. SM should be ashamed to ship product in this condition.
Just my 2 cents-
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I have said this for years and years!
It’s not just SM it’s all of them. To be fair, all of them in varying degrees, but yes it’s a huge problem in the hobby industry. Manufacturers don’t go all the way because everybody that buys the product doesn’t mind tinkering and building planes. You can’t hold them to a basic standard of finish and quality because there’s isn’t strong enough opposition.

The only reason I wrote this is because I was looking at the servo covers in the photos and they don’t fit! The screws don’t have enough flange area so they are pushed out to the edges. The screws are not even counter sunk!
Then I read the comment above and I’m glad I’m not alone calling this crap out.

I have the 1/6 SM F-16 I bought in bare white to finish and I noticed the same issue, servo covers are a joke.

Anyway, for whatever it’s worth, I urge people to voice their displeasure and buy something else if you can. Manufacturers will listen if their sales take a hit.

Last note; I’m a huge fan, I want one of these F-18, it’s large, looks to be pretty scale in outline, flies very scale, etc., but for $6 THOUSAND DOLLARS for just the plane it has to be made right and well proven by the manufacturer not customers R&D.

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Old 11-08-2018, 06:52 PM
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Chris, the hatches are made of real thick fiber glass and are a bit heavy for just a hatch. The backwards servo mounts were a bigger issue, I fixed it all and got them in. I used and drill bit to put a little counter sink to the hatches but you are correct due to the servo mounts and the small area for the screws you have to be careful or you will break the edge.
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Old 11-09-2018, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FenderBean View Post
Yes I had great experience with them (Tailormade decals), Try his Facebook page to get a hold of him. He mainly does email but I did talk to him some there.
Thanks FenderBean, I was able to place my order with TailorMadeDecals for the Hornet maintenance stencils grey rub-ons.
There reply emails were in my spams..
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:34 AM
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Hey Chris, it is interesting to compare the quality you see with the RC gliders out of Europe and compare it to what we get in the jet arena. For $3K AU you get an awesome piece of engineering, absolute precision manufacturing and glass/ carbon work, knife edge trailing edges that are dead straight, etc. Compare that to what we get served up for 3 times the price....

I too love this F18 but am waiting for many of the bugs to get sorted first.
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Old 11-09-2018, 09:41 AM
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You are exactly right. Pay 5-10k for a chinese arf then wait 6 months receive it. Throw away the hardware, Pipe, airlines, fuel plumbing, re-engineer the thing, repair ****ty glue joints, fix paint issues, decals dont match side to side, and on and on. Some are improving but NONE are worth the money they demand. Oh yeah, need a part, good luck, wait another 2-3 months to get any support. Then go test fly....cg numbers way off, air leaks from gear and door cylinders. It's a shame there are so few real kits left.
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:51 PM
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I have bought and sold more jets than I have built solely because I review them and I’m pissed at how poor they are made, mainly, or they don’t look right. I’m not interested in participating at this level of the hobby just to redesign and R&D someone’s product. I want to fly jets so like everyone else I just suck it up and cherry pick them. I can’t do sport jets they just don’t hold my interest or I’d flying a heck of a lot more often.
Oh well, back to the thread....

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Old 11-10-2018, 05:00 PM
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Didnt do much today, I had to take the wife car shopping. I did finish the tanks and need to hurry up and install the main tank so I dont have to look at the patch job, my OCD can't take it lol
I also fitted the stab servos in the tail, a bit of grinding to get them in and just like the F-14 I will be beefing up the servo screw areas. They use the typical soft ply for this and the rudder mounts so it needs so extra love.
I want to note this stab drive arm needs to be aligned with the shaft of stab both vertically and horizontally. The last picture is all the hardware for the rudders, I'm ditching the brass clevises SM provides for my typical dubro ball ends. Video is uploading as well on youtube, pay no attention to the paint chip in my eyebrow and focus problems lol




Critical area, be sure to align horizontally and vertically




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Rudder setup, I will be ditching SMs brass clevises and using my typical dubro ball ends
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Old 11-11-2018, 05:46 PM
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Small update, I spent all afternoon putting in the two stab servos, I glued in some extra wood on the backside of the servo screws and I used longer servo screws as well. I used some carbon fiber servo holders to help give a super strong hold.

I had to add something between the servo and the ply to lift the servo so the arm would clear the outer skin, I initially use some small ply blocks but realized I had more carbon plates and used them instead. Super secure and no worry of the servos screws not holding, I even ran some CA in the holes like always to top it off.

Next I trial fit the stabs to see how much area I needed to trim to allow for max throw up and down(see picture below) I will add the metal insert to the stab tomorrow, I switched gears after the stab servos took so long and removed the landing gear. That was a pain and there is a trick to it, it will not come out hole and some of the bolts/locknuts are rough getting out. I took a couple pictures before I started the process and finished cutting out all the SM's airline. Tomorrow I will work on the rudder servos and possibly changing out the air cylinders on the main doors. I am switching to ultra precision like I did on the F-14, I have tried everything with stock cylinders from SM and they always leak. Save yourself the head ache.

Also I noticed a lot of the screws and bolts on the gear loose so if you don't remove it at least check them all. I have to paint mine so it needed to remove them for the paint.
new video on youtube as well, cheers and happy Veterans Day!





















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Old 11-12-2018, 01:37 PM
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Thanks for the great photos and details
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It's my pleasure, enjoying sharing the experience! Just a small update today with another video, Texas went full winter today and its just a bit cold in my trailer to work much. I did start the rudders, im sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooo glad the servo box cut outs for the ruder servos were the correct size. Having to custom fit with them in the current location would have been impossible, so win for me! Please take not to the how I put the control arm on the metal shaft, if you reverse this it will not give enough throw because the arms will hit the screws behind it. These screws/locknuts are for the rudder mount brackets. I am going to use the heavy duty futaba arms, they are not metal but I cant break them by hand so they will do, im also using four carbon fiber servo plates to act like washers for the servos screws. I did this on the Stabs as well
Thats about it for today, hands got too cold so I called it, I did want to show you guys the AWESOME decals/paint mask I got from tailor made. Lots of detail, from the gear decals, pylons, tanks, missiles and cockpit to the standard markings. I wasnt expecting SO much, I highly recommend them and will use them from now on!




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Not sure why the bottom few turned sideways, top few are water slides and the bottom are rub ons








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Nice graphics set!
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Nice graphics set!
Thanks, a lot more than I expected for sure
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Old 11-12-2018, 07:06 PM
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I like all the data plates/placards. I crawled around a parked Hornet a few times just shooting those pics, C's and E's. There are some interesting subtle graphics once you're up close.
I'm looking forward to your finished jet Fender!
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Thanks I’m hoping the repaint goes well and the colors turn out right.
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Not much to report on the F-18 build since I am about at work stoppage until I get paint and a couple other items. I did manage the other day to get into the fuse and pull the gear door cylinders and mounts. I am changing over to Ultra Precision, why you may ask well every SM stock cylinder I have had has ended up leaking and two I fly what I sell because these cylinders are the best I have found. I think the next project I want to try JMP cylinders because they have a built in feature that prevents doors from slamming. I also pulled the gear out, and man what a pain! I am going to do a tear down, paint and detail. Hard to do much without a normal shop so bare with me, plus im having to do resumes and trying to focus fixed wing training some.



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RCU is being stupid again on picture upload, so pictures may be out of order when I can get them to upload. Finished up the rudders by switching out the metal bearing ends for dubro heavy duty ball ends and metal arms instead of the others I was going to use. Moved on to the control horns on the wings and cutting the servo arm openings in the hatches. Im going to mod the stock control horns by using the two of the stock carbons on each aileron and using two of my own arms for the flaps with a ball end between the two. I also have to remove the stock, mount/arm for the aileron gap cover. They mounted it so close to the hinge it doesnt work well and binds, im uploading videos showing more on it.







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Notice i installed the horn so its just below the center line of the leading edge. (Mod Alert) The prevents have to butcher the trailing edge of the wing for rod clearance. (Mod Alert)

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Nice work Keith
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Originally Posted by FenderBean View Post
Notice i installed the horn so its just below the center line of the leading edge. (Mod Alert) The prevents have to butcher the trailing edge of the wing for rod clearance. (Mod Alert)

You have to butcher the wing no matter how you do it anyway. I remember I had to Dremel half the rear wing cap to get the linkages to work. Was not a great feeling cutting up a new plane to make work.
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How is that brass ball held into the CF horn?
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