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Old 03-27-2018, 01:21 PM
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Old 03-27-2018, 01:22 PM
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So I'm working on my game plan to paint my Airworld large cougar F9F this weekend if all goes well. I'm almost done burning in all the rivets.

So My boy wants it painted like a new never flown model of the kitty Hawk scheme, but I have several shiny jets, and when I go to the jet shows I don't see many weathered jets except for A10's.

So I was thinking really weathered as its a carrier based model, So I would use the Hair Spray and Salt tec along with the darker shadings for contrasts.What say you?Should our jets be shinny, or would weathering it make it stand out from some of the ARF's out there?
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Old 03-27-2018, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mikes68charger View Post
when I go to the jet shows I don't see many weathered jets except for A10's.

That's because 98% of model owners don't know how to do it! And just couldn't care to spend the time to do it. Personally it makes me sick to look at an all shinny post war era jet that's not weathered. Just another cookie cutter mass produced clone is what I see.

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Old 03-27-2018, 01:42 PM
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I don’t like weathering myself, isn’t an issue of ability just not what I think looks good to me.
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Old 03-27-2018, 04:10 PM
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I think weathering should be done in the "less is more" fashion. Even the "dirty" jets didn't look very dirty from a distance.
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Old 03-27-2018, 04:25 PM
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It should be slightly dirty in my opinion.
And the reason why you don't see many properly weathered model jets, is because it takes lots of time and skill to get it right. (less is more)
When most guys finish rigging their jets, it's time to fly. (Guilty of this myself)
Just my opinion-
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Old 03-27-2018, 05:24 PM
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Thanks guys. Itís hard because I like to push my self with each new build.

I saw some videos about useing Sea Salt that looks great
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Old 03-27-2018, 05:26 PM
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Old 03-27-2018, 05:50 PM
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Well,,,, If we are gonna get into this, how bout some of the experienced guys show some pix, or even a how to video of how to do it. I know we have all seen planes that have been overly weathered, and look terrible. The best I ever had was a Yellow F15, in the Kadena scheme, loved that plane, and who ever weathered it did it flawlessly.
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Old 03-27-2018, 07:49 PM
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While I agree that it is easy to over do weathering, some operational aircraft were definitely not cleaned regularly. My specialist subject, operational Vietnam F-100s, were often really really dirty.. Hard to underdo this sort of weathering.

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Old 03-27-2018, 08:36 PM
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I thinks that all scale models benefit from some kind of weathering

Some photos of my BVM Hun, and the full size for comparison..

The weathering is done mostly with artists oils, paints, and paint pigments. I mostly taught my self from tutorials here on RCU and magazine articles. Sean McHale did a really nice article in RCJI a few years back.

I wrote a thread about finishing my F-100 here. Scale finishing my BVM Hun








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Old 03-28-2018, 01:37 AM
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I like slight weathering.... the plane also gets looking better as it ages.

I never liked a scale warbird with automotive shiny finish, or with overdone weathering, giant unscale rivets, or panel gaps, etc.
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Old 03-28-2018, 02:36 AM
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Cool weathering Roger. Great work.

Mike do some research on the full scale bird you want to model, save a heap of photos to your IPad then copy what you see. You canít go wrong that way. Some people talk about over weathering and I agree to a certain point, however some jets are just filthy. Especially carrier birds, and Russians.
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Old 03-28-2018, 03:14 AM
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That F-100 is sick Roger. An excellent example of weathering done right.
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Mike,
​​​​​​I've had good luck using artist's chalk for weathering. Buy a multi-pack like the one pictured and scuff off whatever color or colors you want into "dust", then wipe in on joints, behind hinges, fuel caps, whatever, with a rag. Add more to make it darker, rub more to remove some and make it lighter. Experiment with colors. Just scuff up the shiny finish beforehand with 00 or finer steel wool. The big advantage is that you are not messing with paint, airbrushing, fumes, etc, and you can do sections at a time, whenever you want. That's how I did my A-10. When everything is how you like it, hit it with a very, very thin coat of flat clear. I used PPG Flex-N-Flat.
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That flex N Flat is as realistic as it gets.........
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Yeah, Roger's F-100 is bad azz.

I'm a fan of the "as delivered" look.

Usually, I weather my own jets with spilled smoke oil, fuel, my grimy mitts...etc, etc......
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Old 03-28-2018, 10:32 AM
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Yeah, just don't clean it and after a while , Voila ! real weathering


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Originally Posted by Bobneal1 View Post
Yeah, just don't clean it and after a while , Voila ! real weathering


LOL
I add a light weathering then do as stated above. Every year they look better and better.
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Originally Posted by CraigG View Post

Mike,
​​​​​​I've had good luck using artist's chalk for weathering. Buy a multi-pack like the one pictured and scuff off whatever color or colors you want into "dust", then wipe in on joints, behind hinges, fuel caps, whatever, with a rag. Add more to make it darker, rub more to remove some and make it lighter. Experiment with colors. Just scuff up the shiny finish beforehand with 00 or finer steel wool. The big advantage is that you are not messing with paint, airbrushing, fumes, etc, and you can do sections at a time, whenever you want. That's how I did my A-10. When everything is how you like it, hit it with a very, very thin coat of flat clear. I used PPG Flex-N-Flat.
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Using chalk is a great way to get started and experiment The effect is very subtle.. And it is not permanent. Until it is sealed in you can clean it all off with Perpsol.

I used a dry paint pigment powder, which sold in artists stores. A charcoal, white and red, and you can mix up any shade of oil, dirt, or hydraulic fluid you want..
You can also mix these pigments with turpentine, to make a wet wash. Rub this wash into the panel lines and rivets and then wipe it off again, (always in the direction of airflow) leaving a residue trapped in the panel lines and rivets. The result makes panel lines look much more convincing..

There is really no wrong way to do this. Just have a go and see what works..


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Proper weathering is the difference between it looking like a model or it looking real in flight. Can't stand clean warbirds unless they where like that in real life.

best and fastest clear is Eastwood 2k Matt clear in a can. It's 2 part and easy to use. I used it on the f84 and b2 I just built and love it.
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More weathering on birds I built.

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I’m funny that way I like mine to look like a model, that’s why don’t add pilots to the scale stuff or weather. I did so many models at a young age and I build things for what I like so never been one to build something for a contest like the scale masters

and score on the two part clear Matt source, been looking for the 18 repaint

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Old 03-29-2018, 01:15 AM
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i like war birds with weathering😊 ,i use for weathering oil paint and wax for polish from 3M.


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just a note for the ones you use weathering oil ...if you throw it all over , it will darken also your base colours= the complete plane will look darker and ugly IMHO.
I went the extra mile on my Mirage to protect the large areas that didnt need weathering.

If you notice all rivets and panel lines are visible ....but the plane dont look heavily covered in oil

http://www.petame.gr/forumv/attachme...6&d=1321034200

http://www.petame.gr/forumv/attachme...1&d=1321258877
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