New Futaba toys at Jetpower
09-12-2018, 05:09 AM
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New Futaba toys at Jetpower
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Just got this from a friend, will be shown at Jetpower, anyone care to speculate what are friends are Futaba are up to?
09-12-2018, 06:46 AM
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I don't like it. This will place both receivers "at the same spot" in large planes. The idea of having separate receivers is that you can place one of them in (f.ex) the tail to get better reception when the other receiver is blocked (by pipe, tank etc)
09-12-2018, 06:53 AM
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There is a more obvious question. Why are Futaba introducing a 32 Channel RX when non of their current line up of Transmitters can go above 18 channels?
There is a more obvious question. Why are Futaba introducing a 32 Channel RX when non of their current line up of Transmitters can go above 18 channels?
09-12-2018, 07:46 AM
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I use the Powerbox PowerExpander and 2 inexpensive (or less expensive) Futaba R7003SB receivers for that...
Bob
09-12-2018, 10:11 AM
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The 8024 box looks like a standard extruded alu profile. It looks like they just "stuffed" 2 receivers into the profile (and whats with the 2 nylon screws on the side of the box?)
Will be interesting to get hands on them at JetPower!
Will be interesting to get hands on them at JetPower!
09-12-2018, 10:12 AM
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Well, they can easily by using "multiprop", that way you can get more channels than the 18 (I know as I have made powerboxes that took advantage of that)
09-12-2018, 11:35 AM
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Ripmax is a big German distributor for Futaba and they came up with some of their own stuff/mods to Futaba stuff in coordination with Futaba. I'm confused however as I thought they went under here a year or so ago. In any event, their hardware was not available here due to import/distribution agreements with Futaba from what I understand.
http://www.ripmax.com/
Old guy brainfart; it was Robbe who had problems.
http://www.ripmax.com/
Old guy brainfart; it was Robbe who had problems.
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09-12-2018, 12:05 PM
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I would not assume just because Ripmax have their name on it that it will only be available in Europe. I suspect this is a Futaba product and Ripmax are just sticking their name on it. Ripmax neither have the resources of expertise to develop this kind of kit. So I would expect you will see it worldwide.
My first thought when I saw the number of channels on the 24/32 rx was is this Futaba tipping their hand to a 18MZ replacement. but if it is , their marketing department needs shooting.
My first thought when I saw the number of channels on the 24/32 rx was is this Futaba tipping their hand to a 18MZ replacement. but if it is , their marketing department needs shooting.
09-12-2018, 01:50 PM
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I would not assume just because Ripmax have their name on it that it will only be available in Europe. I suspect this is a Futaba product and Ripmax are just sticking their name on it. Ripmax neither have the resources of expertise to develop this kind of kit. So I would expect you will see it worldwide.
My first thought when I saw the number of channels on the 24/32 rx was is this Futaba tipping their hand to a 18MZ replacement. but if it is , their marketing department needs shooting.
My first thought when I saw the number of channels on the 24/32 rx was is this Futaba tipping their hand to a 18MZ replacement. but if it is , their marketing department needs shooting.
Also, I agree with Carsten, not as much benefit if the receivers are right next to each other. The other products (PDS10 and PDS18) appears to be mux boxes, taking 2 SBus2 inputs and outputting one, in addition to the PWM servo outputs.
To date, the only devices I could find that do something like this are the powerbox "SRS" enabled products (I use the iGyro SRS)
09-12-2018, 10:57 PM
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Why would you use a single RF link RC system without any RF backup on a large jet?
As always in aeronautics, the chain principle prevails.
The whole system is only as good as its weakest link.
09-12-2018, 11:17 PM
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My first thought when I saw the number of channels on the 24/32 rx was is this Futaba tipping their hand to a 18MZ replacement.
The 18MZ & WC have been able to give 32 channels since the day it was introduced - very easily, so nothing new here.
Ripmax neither have the resources of expertise to develop this kind of kit.
I think you will find that this has been developed by Ripmax.de, as they now have the guy working in the German company, that used to be the designer of ACT equipment in Europe.
He is the source behind all of these products.
Will it be available worldwide - most likely not.
Ripmax.de already produce a lot of Futaba oriented items, that are not even available to the UK market !
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The 18MZ & WC have been able to give 32 channels since the day it was introduced - very easily, so nothing new here.
Ripmax neither have the resources of expertise to develop this kind of kit.
I think you will find that this has been developed by Ripmax.de, as they now have the guy working in the German company, that used to be the designer of ACT equipment in Europe.
He is the source behind all of these products.
Will it be available worldwide - most likely not.
Ripmax.de already produce a lot of Futaba oriented items, that are not even available to the UK market !
modtron
Oxford UK
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09-13-2018, 02:24 AM
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It may have the capacity as any device that uses spread specktrum technology does can but they don't let you use it. The 18MZ is getting long in the tooth and you can get as good if not better bang for your buck elsewhere. BTW I own an 18MZ and I love it. But lets be honest it is the most expensive high end radio on the market but does it deserve its RRP ?
It makes little sense from a business model point of view to develop a product and not sell it to the widest market possible, especially right now, when the modelling business is still struggling and many good names are shutting their doors due to the difficult trading environment. But if Ripmax want to take careful aim at their own foot with a submachine gun and pull the trigger who am I to tell them not to.
It may have the capacity as any device that uses spread specktrum technology does can but they don't let you use it. The 18MZ is getting long in the tooth and you can get as good if not better bang for your buck elsewhere. BTW I own an 18MZ and I love it. But lets be honest it is the most expensive high end radio on the market but does it deserve its RRP ?
It makes little sense from a business model point of view to develop a product and not sell it to the widest market possible, especially right now, when the modelling business is still struggling and many good names are shutting their doors due to the difficult trading environment. But if Ripmax want to take careful aim at their own foot with a submachine gun and pull the trigger who am I to tell them not to.
09-13-2018, 03:39 AM
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A great product for electronically challenged people like me 😀
09-13-2018, 06:24 AM
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Levi it’s not you, I’m a computer geek and still have issues with current PB UI and the instructions are about as useful as Futabas. I gave up on Futaba instructions years ago, I have messed around with their stuff for so long it just makes sense.
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09-13-2018, 12:22 PM
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High guys,
the Boss of Ripmax Germany is Klaus Westerteicher. He is also the Boss of the Company ACT Europe (another RC System).
The new Ripmax/Futaba Receiver looks very simular to an old one of ACT with the ACT RC-System. It seems that they had changed the internal Receivers to Futaba only. But please look here:
https://www.acteurope.de/shop/produc...oducts_id=3031
Best regards,
Karsten
the Boss of Ripmax Germany is Klaus Westerteicher. He is also the Boss of the Company ACT Europe (another RC System).
The new Ripmax/Futaba Receiver looks very simular to an old one of ACT with the ACT RC-System. It seems that they had changed the internal Receivers to Futaba only. But please look here:
https://www.acteurope.de/shop/produc...oducts_id=3031
Best regards,
Karsten
09-14-2018, 07:08 AM
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Here's something really interesting from Futaba the all new servos HPBLS A700 and CB700 with 74 and 49kg.cm torque respectively in the same servo box as the standard size servo:
HOBBYNET-JAPAN
https://www.facebook.com/FutabaRC.JP...7500736745895/
and declared consumption is allegedly 5 times lower. Haven't seen anything that strong in the market before.
Tassos
HOBBYNET-JAPAN
https://www.facebook.com/FutabaRC.JP...7500736745895/
and declared consumption is allegedly 5 times lower. Haven't seen anything that strong in the market before.
Tassos
09-14-2018, 08:35 AM
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Here's something really interesting from Futaba the all new servos HPBLS A700 and CB700 with 74 and 49kg.cm torque respectively in the same servo box as the standard size servo:
HOBBYNET-JAPAN
https://www.facebook.com/FutabaRC.JP...7500736745895/
and declared consumption is allegedly 5 times lower. Haven't seen anything that strong in the market before.
Tassos
HOBBYNET-JAPAN
https://www.facebook.com/FutabaRC.JP...7500736745895/
and declared consumption is allegedly 5 times lower. Haven't seen anything that strong in the market before.
Tassos