FAA requiring outside markings now
02-13-2019, 02:00 PM
#1
Thread Starter
FAA requiring outside markings now
https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=93045
Sheesh. I'll find a label machine that can make tiny numbers and paste it on the bottom of the fuse somewhere. This is ridiculous.
Sheesh. I'll find a label machine that can make tiny numbers and paste it on the bottom of the fuse somewhere. This is ridiculous.
02-13-2019, 02:04 PM
#2
https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=93045
Sheesh. I'll find a label machine that can make tiny numbers and paste it on the bottom of the fuse somewhere. This is ridiculous.
Sheesh. I'll find a label machine that can make tiny numbers and paste it on the bottom of the fuse somewhere. This is ridiculous.
Dumb!
Bob
02-13-2019, 02:13 PM
#3
The FAA believes this action will enhance safety and security by allowing a person to view the unique identifier directly without handling the drone.
Also I find it astonishing that they would make this ruling in the name of safety and security, yet on the same day propose a rule to allow drones to fly over people. Contradictory much?
Last edited by Auburn02; 02-13-2019 at 02:16 PM.
02-13-2019, 02:22 PM
#4
I just read the email, the rule has not changed since it was first introduced.
Way ahead of you guys, Ive been using a lable maker for over a decade to make my name, phone number, AMA number and other labels for all my drones ( model airplanes ) have my FAA registration number in size 5 then cut all around the number to make it even smaller, then it is placed under the left stab, right in that corner, easy to see and never touched by anything, even when I clean them.
The FAA has been all over my carrier, work and play since the late 80s, this sucks but doesn't bother me as much any more.
Moving forward.
Way ahead of you guys, Ive been using a lable maker for over a decade to make my name, phone number, AMA number and other labels for all my drones ( model airplanes ) have my FAA registration number in size 5 then cut all around the number to make it even smaller, then it is placed under the left stab, right in that corner, easy to see and never touched by anything, even when I clean them.
The FAA has been all over my carrier, work and play since the late 80s, this sucks but doesn't bother me as much any more.
Moving forward.
Last edited by CARS II; 02-13-2019 at 03:42 PM.
02-13-2019, 02:41 PM
#5
Thread Starter
It has changed. The new rule says the number must be outside the model now. Before that wasn't required. Only inside. New rule doesn't go into affect until FEB 25.
I'll put mine on the bottom somewhere. As if anyone is going to ask anyway. It's ridiculous.
I'll put mine on the bottom somewhere. As if anyone is going to ask anyway. It's ridiculous.
Last edited by AndyAndrews; 02-13-2019 at 02:46 PM. Reason: eh
02-13-2019, 02:53 PM
#7
dry erase marker for events = ) maybe a decal that requires magnification glass to read LOL Government is just stupid, the people that caused this by breaking the rules will never follow this even if the some how learn about. Typical over reaction to everything these days.
Last edited by FenderBean; 02-13-2019 at 02:56 PM.
02-13-2019, 05:05 PM
#12
I tell people I'm a Registered Drone Offender, we are all guilty by association anyway, might as well get a laugh.
Its not going to get any better for us in my opinion. The people in charge at the top levels of the drone industry and law are all very well placed and connected to industry. Its like a mob dividing up the territories and agreeing on who gets what and where and when. I see no benefit to us regardless of the FAA/AMA relations. They will dictate to us what we will get to do, have and where and when its just a matter of time. They will impose technical requirements and mark my words if that doesn't include the ability to down our planes for any reason. We already comply in the form of not transmitting at very high power therefore we are passive and I have lost a couple planes to police activity in my immediate vicinity due to their radio coms. The cops that take breaks at our field to write reports know it and leave us alone if we have a few members flying. But, in the future they will have the ability to just knock our planes down due to deconflicting airspace or directed weapons to deny radio control. There are devices in the works to create a sphere around an aircraft flying through airspace that will cause the drone to change altitude, speed and direction. So imagine your at your field flying and a plane or helicopter comes near enough to activate this function while you're flying your expensive plane. Then it has to change altitude or attempt to deconflict and it crashes. Thats it, its your problem.
Directed radio wave weapons/jammers are real now too. I worked on the housing for one patterned after an AR so like a rifle. An officer can just pull this out of the trunk and knock down your plane for any reason they see fit. Then ask questions later...
Im not fear mongering, this is real and real close too. Im just pissed at the drone products, consumers and companies bear no responsibilities for ruining our hobby of 80 years! They made millions and never cared about the side effects this would have on the laws, the hobby, or the future.
The Genie is out fo the bottle now, I hope we can have another 80 years of this hobby.
Its not going to get any better for us in my opinion. The people in charge at the top levels of the drone industry and law are all very well placed and connected to industry. Its like a mob dividing up the territories and agreeing on who gets what and where and when. I see no benefit to us regardless of the FAA/AMA relations. They will dictate to us what we will get to do, have and where and when its just a matter of time. They will impose technical requirements and mark my words if that doesn't include the ability to down our planes for any reason. We already comply in the form of not transmitting at very high power therefore we are passive and I have lost a couple planes to police activity in my immediate vicinity due to their radio coms. The cops that take breaks at our field to write reports know it and leave us alone if we have a few members flying. But, in the future they will have the ability to just knock our planes down due to deconflicting airspace or directed weapons to deny radio control. There are devices in the works to create a sphere around an aircraft flying through airspace that will cause the drone to change altitude, speed and direction. So imagine your at your field flying and a plane or helicopter comes near enough to activate this function while you're flying your expensive plane. Then it has to change altitude or attempt to deconflict and it crashes. Thats it, its your problem.
Directed radio wave weapons/jammers are real now too. I worked on the housing for one patterned after an AR so like a rifle. An officer can just pull this out of the trunk and knock down your plane for any reason they see fit. Then ask questions later...
Im not fear mongering, this is real and real close too. Im just pissed at the drone products, consumers and companies bear no responsibilities for ruining our hobby of 80 years! They made millions and never cared about the side effects this would have on the laws, the hobby, or the future.
The Genie is out fo the bottle now, I hope we can have another 80 years of this hobby.
02-13-2019, 08:19 PM
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Did I miss something? It says on the outside and visible without handling the drone, I haven't seen anything that says anything about it having to be a printed label, so what about writing it in black marker on the side of one of the tires? Black sharpies have a slight purple tint and when the light hits it right it's visible. Kinda the same idea as putting white reflective decals on the sides of white police cars, visible in certain light and complies with the letter of the law for marked vehicles.
02-14-2019, 04:07 AM
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Here's my simple solution to the FAA UAS registration requirement:
I used my "Brother" label maker set to the smallest size, and affixed the label to the outer surface of the aft wing spar just ahead of the flap. The example shown is on my "FLY NAVY:" KingCat, but can be used on a variety of airframes.
Flaps "UP" and it is out of sight.....flaps "DOWN" and it is displayed as the FAA requires it.
Coating the balsa spar with 5 minute epoxy makes the balsa slick enough for the label to adhere.
Last edited by Harley Condra; 02-14-2019 at 04:13 AM.
02-14-2019, 06:47 AM
#16
Meh.
I havent put an FAA number on any of my models. I’m not flying over people. I fly my toy plane out in the middle of nowhere and I’m in the market for a new flying field.
If if my new field makes me, then maybe I’ll make up some FAA number and put it on.
I havent put an FAA number on any of my models. I’m not flying over people. I fly my toy plane out in the middle of nowhere and I’m in the market for a new flying field.
If if my new field makes me, then maybe I’ll make up some FAA number and put it on.
02-14-2019, 06:59 AM
#17
I'm guilty of not doing it on all of mine, but not out of protest or anything. Just not something I ever think about except when I see these threads and I'm nowhere near a label maker and/or the models.
As for a flying field enforcing it, our club decided early on that we/they are not associated with the FAA, only the AMA - we ensure members comply with AMA regs, it's between the members and the feds if they want to comply with the FAA or not. Any club that tries to police that sounds like a real fun bunch.
As for a flying field enforcing it, our club decided early on that we/they are not associated with the FAA, only the AMA - we ensure members comply with AMA regs, it's between the members and the feds if they want to comply with the FAA or not. Any club that tries to police that sounds like a real fun bunch.
02-14-2019, 07:30 AM
#18
Same here.
I dont check the tags on your trailer, thats between you and the state and I don't check your FAA registration.
You need AMA to fly at the club and as a CD and club officer that's what I keep up with because the lease with the city requires insurance.
I dont check the tags on your trailer, thats between you and the state and I don't check your FAA registration.
You need AMA to fly at the club and as a CD and club officer that's what I keep up with because the lease with the city requires insurance.
02-14-2019, 07:49 AM
#20
Our club made that exact same decision. We are not agents for the FAA.
I have been dinged at a couple of fun flies for not having AMA on my model. Sometimes you have to look close to see it because it looks like part of the random color scheme. I have never been asked at any fun fly, or field I visited for FAA markings. I do have FAA on some but not all of my aircraft.
I will have to see what the smallest font that my vinyl cutter can do. Then cut it out of the same color as where it is going, or even cut them from clear. I then will have raised letters so they are visible.....
I have been dinged at a couple of fun flies for not having AMA on my model. Sometimes you have to look close to see it because it looks like part of the random color scheme. I have never been asked at any fun fly, or field I visited for FAA markings. I do have FAA on some but not all of my aircraft.
I will have to see what the smallest font that my vinyl cutter can do. Then cut it out of the same color as where it is going, or even cut them from clear. I then will have raised letters so they are visible.....
02-14-2019, 12:14 PM
#24
Some of the Scale Guys are talking about printing off Manufacture Data Plates (Grumman, North American, Chance Vought, etc. and printing the FAA number/AMA number onto the data plates. Place the plates inside the cowl or cockpit. Print the letters/numbers in small. There is no mention of a required font or size lettering. Kool. Chic
