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Old 09-06-2019, 07:21 AM
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I was able to finally use some “real” paint.

My local Napa Auto Parts will put automotive type paint in a spray can and all the paints (except for the last base coat!) were awesome to work with! Quick dry, super hard and easy to mask! Waaayyy better than rustoleum.

I have been reluctant to buy a paint gun because I HATE cleaning paint and I will not paint indoors, too much nastiness to breath in.

I was using the paint cans thinking they would be more reliable than rustoleum paint cans, well that was a pipe dream. As I applied the last color, the can started sputtering and spitting after only a few seconds! Uh! What a pain.

Sorry for the rant! Tell me, what do you guys/gals think about this gun? Is it an appropriate gun to paint our models?

https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-co...inum-case.html
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:44 AM
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Hey man. Hope you have been well.. That gun should be fine for you..Have a look, disposable liner system. makes the clean up sooo much better and faster. and always use the little water traps.

https://www.eastwood.com/3m-pps-larg...-pk-of-25.html
https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-ai...ir-filter.html

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Old 09-06-2019, 10:17 AM
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Sata Mini guns and Iwatas are the guns of choice.-On the other hand I have bought a number of the Harbor Freight HVLP touch up guns when they are on sale for under 20 bucks and they have worked OK-Also they are damm near disposable at that price
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Old 09-06-2019, 12:58 PM
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Rav I have tried the Harbor gun and it did not last. I purchased a Iwatas and have been so happy with it. I wished I would have done it along time ago. The other guns I have used start to spit. If you are interested I can get you the model #. Dan
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I have an old Devilbiss large size....and a new 2000’s era Mini Sata gun, over the winter I think I will invest into a grex airbrush for the small work/touch up....
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Badger 2000 are the best for small job and easy to clean
Devilbliss definitively excellent
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We spend thousands of dollars on these jets and then buy cheap crap to finish them. I've never understood that. No a good gun wont make you a good painter but a cheap gun almost promises a crappy paint finish.
I've done a couple of articles on guns here over the years.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-jets-120/10519362-advice-paint-guns.html

Post 15 in this one

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-jets-120/11158944-paint-gun-recomendation.html
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Originally Posted by LGM Graphix View Post
We spend thousands of dollars on these jets and then buy cheap crap to finish them. I've never understood that. No a good gun wont make you a good painter but a cheap gun almost promises a crappy paint finish.
I've done a couple of articles on guns here over the years.

Advice on paint guns

Post 15 in this one

paint gun recomendation

So well said ! Pay cheap = pay double ...plus repainting a model=disaster. For me only SATA mini jet HVLP . And yes price does reflect end painting result .
I strongly suggest you buy the electronic versions of the JetPower Magazine with the articles of Ralf Schneider "how to paint" . An amazing source of know-how.

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I use a McDonald’s straw with a siphon attachment and a Walmart cheap 12volt tire inflator. I also visit Starbucks and take the wooden stirring sticks and use them to mix my Michael’s water based paints. I clear my projects with an egg tempura type top coat. Worked great for the masters for over 200-300 years. Save thousands omitting automotive paints, sprayers etc.
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Originally Posted by ledd4u View Post
I use a McDonald’s straw with a siphon attachment and a Walmart cheap 12volt tire inflator. I also visit Starbucks and take the wooden stirring sticks and use them to mix my Michael’s water based paints. I clear my projects with an egg tempura type top coat. Worked great for the masters for over 200-300 years. Save thousands omitting automotive paints, sprayers etc.

Bwahahahahahahaha!!!

And I bow to the power Jeremy! I know you KNOW your stuff. I will get a good gun (likely what you recommend) and I’ll talk to local body shop suppliers to make sure I have local support.

Thank you everyone for your advice!! This is why I love RCU!
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Originally Posted by DelGatoGrande View Post
So well said ! Pay cheap = pay double ...plus repainting a model=disaster. For me only SATA mini jet HVLP . And yes price does reflect end painting result .
I strongly suggest you buy the electronic versions of the JetPower Magazine with the articles of Ralf Schneider "how to paint" . An amazing source of know-how.

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If you want a good system doesn't break your wallet get the 3M gun you can even dispose the tips after paint if you want or clean and reuse this is what i used and comes with all the tips you will need I have a $800 Sata and this will paint as good

3M 16580 Accuspray Spray Gun System with Standard PPS

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Where are all the custom painters and what might be a reasonable charge? Thanks. Chic
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HVLP all the way!
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I am unable to find a Sata gun online. Apparently Sata doesn’t allow online purchasing?
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Amazon has them but there are fakes out there. Going to a local body shop dealer is the smartest way though. While I've never needed parts for a SATA local support is always a great thing.
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I'll be stopping at my shop today. I think I have a brand new mini jet that I'd be willing to sell. Some circumstances in my life have lead to a need to sell a couple of things. I'll post back once I confirm the model
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Hi Raf,

In my experience Sata is hard to find online, but they are worth the effort to find. I have had a sata minijet 2 for a long time, it works great. A harbor freight jamb gun for primer is nice to have too
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Talk about a "GREAT" painter, LGM Graphix is a fabulous painter. Had him repair and paint a clear canopy for a jet model.. He lives in Canada, I live in Alexandria, VA and it turned out to be the best money I spent on that jet. Wish he lived south of the northern border. I have a complete jet for him to paint. Chic
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Raf- Are you going to show up with whatever it is you are painting? Just asking for a friend-Scotty
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Raf- Are you going to show up with whatever it is you are painting? Just asking for a friend-Scotty

Scotty! I wish! There is no way I can have my mibo finished by next month!

Jeremy, let me know if you want to sell your gun!
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I'll be stopping at my shop today. I think I have a brand new mini jet that I'd be willing to sell. Some circumstances in my life have lead to a need to sell a couple of things. I'll post back once I confirm the model

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Don't forget you also need to have a decent compressor and make sure you have a filter to eliminate water and oil. I have a 30 gallon one, seems to be reasonably adequate. I've shot paint with smaller ones, you can do it but, you're constantly stopping your work and waiting for the tank to fill.
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Thank you to Jeremy for sending me his Sata. I’m just awaiting a part to be able to use it.

My local place sold me a gun with a 1.8 tip (not a Sata) for $150. Apparently the 1.8 tip is good for primer and clears. Also, this gun should be good enough to start practicing with.

And OMG am I glad I did. I bought a gun mounted pressure regulator and water trap and some paints to get my feet wet, sort to speak.

You painters have reached a whole new level of respect, AGAIN!

I initially put lacquer thinner in the cup and started messing around just spraying stuff. And talk about flash back to tuning a 2 stroke engine with a low, mid and high needle setting!

I had to adjust every thing that I could adjust (pressure, paint supply, other needles that I don’t know the name of) to try to make some spray come out in a decent pattern. Ugh.

I thought I’d just put all the adjustments in their middle ranges and I’d get close, I mean RIGHT?!

Not even close!! I had to adjust every parameter to get a spray pattern that would lay down decent paint, ie not too thick, not too thin.

Finally, I just put water in the cup and adjusted to my heart’s content.

About 30 minutes in, I was pretty happy. Time for more thinner and then paint.

After a little more adjustment, I was throwing paint. So far so good. Hold for results.

Again, learning how to paint is WAY cool and much respect to painters.
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Hey Raf.. You are definitely approaching it the right way now. Like you, I started with aerosols, and then cheapie guns with no filters or proper regulators. Ended up with a Sata Minijet!
The clean up is not so bad. You just have to factor it in before you start. You get quick at it after a few cycles.

Looking forward to seeing what you can do to the A-10
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