RA5C Vigilante
#1
Thread Starter
My Feedback: (28)
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 81
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RA5C Vigilante
Does anyone make a kit for the RA5C Vigilante? I know Phil Knuckles of Ace Hobbies in FL used to make one, but his phone number is disconnected. Also, RCM has plans for the A3J , predecessor of the RA5C, but a pain to convert.
Anyone have any assistance? Thanks.
Bob McCormack
Anyone have any assistance? Thanks.
Bob McCormack
#4
My Feedback: (24)
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Daytona Beach
Posts: 6,102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RA5C Vigilante
Bob,
Phil Nuckles sold the molds to Tim Davis in Jacksonville. He has been kitting the RA5C Vigilante and together with Phil have made mods to the plans for turbine power. Phil currently has a turbine version under construction.
If you are interested in a Vigi I suggest you get in touch with Tim. I dont have his # here at work but you should be able to contact him via email or PM here: http://www.rcuniverse.com/member.php...nfo&userid=560
Todd
Phil Nuckles sold the molds to Tim Davis in Jacksonville. He has been kitting the RA5C Vigilante and together with Phil have made mods to the plans for turbine power. Phil currently has a turbine version under construction.
If you are interested in a Vigi I suggest you get in touch with Tim. I dont have his # here at work but you should be able to contact him via email or PM here: http://www.rcuniverse.com/member.php...nfo&userid=560
Todd
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Tucson, AZ,
Posts: 149
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: RA5C Vigilante
Hey love2flyrc, that link does not work any more. Any idea how I can get in touch with Tim Davis. I am really interested in building a model of the Vigi.
Thanks,
Sean
Thanks,
Sean
#7
My Feedback: (24)
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Daytona Beach
Posts: 6,102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: RA5C Vigilante
Sean,
Nobody is quite sure what happened to these molds, Phil has been trying to buy the molds back from him but....Tim kinda flaked out and wont tell anyone where the molds wound up. Phil does have another fuse so I believe he is in the process of making new molds off of it.... I suggest you contact Phil at 386-761-9780 and get your name on the list
Todd
Nobody is quite sure what happened to these molds, Phil has been trying to buy the molds back from him but....Tim kinda flaked out and wont tell anyone where the molds wound up. Phil does have another fuse so I believe he is in the process of making new molds off of it.... I suggest you contact Phil at 386-761-9780 and get your name on the list
Todd
#8
My Feedback: (4)
RE: RA5C Vigilante
greg pulcini built the one at florida jets this year from the american modeling kit. he may pop on and elaborate but nothing fit and while tim was helpful at first he stopped returning greg's attempts to contact him. there is not a whole lot on greg's that he did not have to re-make or seriously modify. again tim and greg pop on here now and again so they may elaborate..
if phil is working on it again, i would wait on his then.
if phil is working on it again, i would wait on his then.
#9
Senior Member
My Feedback: (3)
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Nashville,
TN
Posts: 310
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: RA5C Vigilante
There was a rumor that Jetmart USA had the molds and was going to kit it in the future. Maybe they can give you an update. If anybody gets details, please post it.
#10
My Feedback: (207)
RE: RA5C Vigilante
Hi all,
The Vigi was origionally built by Phil Nuckles and then I purchased the design and rehashed it to bring it up to todays standards removable hatches ,exhaust nozzles,canopy,construction plans,interior layout ,external tanks and so on. I sold a handful 5 if my memory serves me correct. Barely recouped cost . I also was playing with several other INTENSE twin designs. I think the vigi had 13 molds just for glass parts.Theese planes had a HUGE amount of parts involved. As for parts not fitting -mine went togather ok and so did a friends??? And considering $800-$900 for a full 1/10th scale kit compare to BVM size and price. You get what you pay for. The plane was well worth the cost by far.
I never built kits to make a living my full time company does that, just as a hobby and something to keep my hands busy. I like to tinker in the shop .Anyways when you are producing 3-5 kits per month it turns into a job. Within a few years I sold 100 or so kits and realized I no longer flew and did not have fun always building parts and helping other . The calls at 3:00 in the am from overseas were no fun either. So I backed off and build kits when I feel like it then sell at one time specials. And I fly alot more now.
The rumors that Ronnie at Jet Mart having all of my designs are CORRECT. Except for a 12lb class sport jet and buckeye I am working on them. He may chime in he is on here also aka "Skybouncer". Ronnie is a good friend of mine and has several designs, you might be impressed with how many 25-27. He will be making a large showing soon. If you call and ask nicely he might send you one.
The Vigi was origionally built by Phil Nuckles and then I purchased the design and rehashed it to bring it up to todays standards removable hatches ,exhaust nozzles,canopy,construction plans,interior layout ,external tanks and so on. I sold a handful 5 if my memory serves me correct. Barely recouped cost . I also was playing with several other INTENSE twin designs. I think the vigi had 13 molds just for glass parts.Theese planes had a HUGE amount of parts involved. As for parts not fitting -mine went togather ok and so did a friends??? And considering $800-$900 for a full 1/10th scale kit compare to BVM size and price. You get what you pay for. The plane was well worth the cost by far.
I never built kits to make a living my full time company does that, just as a hobby and something to keep my hands busy. I like to tinker in the shop .Anyways when you are producing 3-5 kits per month it turns into a job. Within a few years I sold 100 or so kits and realized I no longer flew and did not have fun always building parts and helping other . The calls at 3:00 in the am from overseas were no fun either. So I backed off and build kits when I feel like it then sell at one time specials. And I fly alot more now.
The rumors that Ronnie at Jet Mart having all of my designs are CORRECT. Except for a 12lb class sport jet and buckeye I am working on them. He may chime in he is on here also aka "Skybouncer". Ronnie is a good friend of mine and has several designs, you might be impressed with how many 25-27. He will be making a large showing soon. If you call and ask nicely he might send you one.
#11
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Johnstown,
CO
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: RA5C Vigilante
Phil, himself, responding to forums.
Yes, I did sell my molds and plans to Tim Davis, with the understanding that if he would no longer
be manufacturing the kits, I would have first refusal to them. When I understood that he did
no longer wished to kit them, I called and left messages on his answering machine many times, for him to contact me. No luck! I even drove to his home in Jax to try to buy the stuff back, but his excuse was that someone had them in GA or SC, and he would drive up and bring them back. He promised to call back in a couple weeks. Well, that was in October. Huh! Well, I will be making a new and improved model, since I now have access to a CNC machine for making new molds. I have been working for a full-size kit plane company which manufactures an all-composite aircraft. Since we have the capability of making molds and kits, we will be using the maching for pushing out some gorgeous jets in the near future. I have people in the shop that are willing to help me get these out the door. We will keep you up-to-date on our progress.
Thanks for the interest!
Yes, I did sell my molds and plans to Tim Davis, with the understanding that if he would no longer
be manufacturing the kits, I would have first refusal to them. When I understood that he did
no longer wished to kit them, I called and left messages on his answering machine many times, for him to contact me. No luck! I even drove to his home in Jax to try to buy the stuff back, but his excuse was that someone had them in GA or SC, and he would drive up and bring them back. He promised to call back in a couple weeks. Well, that was in October. Huh! Well, I will be making a new and improved model, since I now have access to a CNC machine for making new molds. I have been working for a full-size kit plane company which manufactures an all-composite aircraft. Since we have the capability of making molds and kits, we will be using the maching for pushing out some gorgeous jets in the near future. I have people in the shop that are willing to help me get these out the door. We will keep you up-to-date on our progress.
Thanks for the interest!
#13
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Johnstown,
CO
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: RA5C Vigilante
This is Phil Nuckles (jetsrfun), in answer to your question. I designed an RA5C based on a subject found in a little museum in Pueblo, Colorado. I had an article published in Flying Models on January 1997. It was based on a Byron fan unit; I still have the first proto type with over a 100 flights at meets. Its retired now! I have been working on a new version for turbine but this is still in the development stage.
Greg Pulcini, located in Texas, has been flying a turbine version on my original kit with mods for almost two years.
I'm located in the Daytona Beach area and own a hobby shop called Ace Hobbies. Our e-mail is [email protected] if you need more info.
Greg says its a great flyer and very forgiving, one of the few jets that actually has a glide slope if the turbine shutsdown.
Hope this info helps a little, Phil.
Greg Pulcini, located in Texas, has been flying a turbine version on my original kit with mods for almost two years.
I'm located in the Daytona Beach area and own a hobby shop called Ace Hobbies. Our e-mail is [email protected] if you need more info.
Greg says its a great flyer and very forgiving, one of the few jets that actually has a glide slope if the turbine shutsdown.
Hope this info helps a little, Phil.
#14
My Feedback: (24)
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Fond du Lac,
WI
Posts: 2,234
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: RA5C Vigilante
Bob:
Here is a photo of Greg Pulcini on the right at MAB 2005 with his gorgeous Vig........
Seems to fly with no bad habits.....I think he is still using a RAM for power......looks super sweet in the air...the all-flying tail is super-cool.....
Tom
Here is a photo of Greg Pulcini on the right at MAB 2005 with his gorgeous Vig........
Seems to fly with no bad habits.....I think he is still using a RAM for power......looks super sweet in the air...the all-flying tail is super-cool.....
Tom
#15
Senior Member
My Feedback: (2)
RE: RA5C Vigilante
jetsrfun replied ...
I had an article published in Flying Models on January 1997. It was based on a Byron fan unit; I still have the first proto type with over a 100 flights at meets. Its retired now!
I had an article published in Flying Models on January 1997. It was based on a Byron fan unit; I still have the first proto type with over a 100 flights at meets. Its retired now!
My best to Sharon. Cheers.
Mike
#17
Senior Member
My Feedback: (2)
RE: RA5C Vigilante
Greg Pulcini had his jet at Reese Tech Center (T-38 Jet Rally) few years ago. And he had it test flown by John Redman on the sticks. That first take-off stopped everyone's heart! John managed to get Greg's plane all trimmed out and landed it in one piece.
#18
My Feedback: (3)
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calhoun , GA
Posts: 95
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: RA5C Vigilante
Hi Everybody, just dropped in to answer the questions.
MOLDS:
Yes i do have all the molds for the A-5
KITS OF THE A-5
No plans yet to kit this aircraft, I just dont see enough sales to justify kitting it, unless theirs at least a dozen wanting it.
There will be one... maybe two flying next season.
IT WILL BE LISTED ON THE WEBSITE AS A CUSTOM BUILT AIRCRAFT ONLY AT THIS TIME.
THANKS ALL, Ronnie
Jet -Mart USA
770-548-3155 cell
MOLDS:
Yes i do have all the molds for the A-5
KITS OF THE A-5
No plans yet to kit this aircraft, I just dont see enough sales to justify kitting it, unless theirs at least a dozen wanting it.
There will be one... maybe two flying next season.
IT WILL BE LISTED ON THE WEBSITE AS A CUSTOM BUILT AIRCRAFT ONLY AT THIS TIME.
THANKS ALL, Ronnie
Jet -Mart USA
770-548-3155 cell
#20
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Johnstown,
CO
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi Jo:
I designed the RA5C version of the Vigilante back in 1993 and sold kits of my version.
I obtained a Squadron Publications technical book and used this as a reference for my design; Also there was a full size version at a small museum in Pueblo Colorado that I used for reference. I made the original drawings and produced molds from a plug that I built. I still have the proto type model which has several fights on it as a ducted fan version using the old Byron unit.
I have designed a new variation for turbine use but do not have kits available at this time.
It is a great flying aircraft and good for entry level turbine flying.
Please feel free to contact me at anytime for further info.
PhilN Johnstown, Colorado
I designed the RA5C version of the Vigilante back in 1993 and sold kits of my version.
I obtained a Squadron Publications technical book and used this as a reference for my design; Also there was a full size version at a small museum in Pueblo Colorado that I used for reference. I made the original drawings and produced molds from a plug that I built. I still have the proto type model which has several fights on it as a ducted fan version using the old Byron unit.
I have designed a new variation for turbine use but do not have kits available at this time.
It is a great flying aircraft and good for entry level turbine flying.
Please feel free to contact me at anytime for further info.
PhilN Johnstown, Colorado
#21
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: willow springs , IL
Posts: 1,216
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes
on
14 Posts
Hi Phil,
I had a plastic model of a Vigilante when I was a kid and always thought it was a cool plane. I ordered a set of your plans. I am assuming a wooden plane can be built from them. I was thinking of modeling it with the tail cone missing as it would be if it had to drop its weapon. With the center open I would build it for a single turbine in the center. I am very interested in seeing your plans but it will be four or six weeks for delivery.
Thanks,
Joe Felonk
I had a plastic model of a Vigilante when I was a kid and always thought it was a cool plane. I ordered a set of your plans. I am assuming a wooden plane can be built from them. I was thinking of modeling it with the tail cone missing as it would be if it had to drop its weapon. With the center open I would build it for a single turbine in the center. I am very interested in seeing your plans but it will be four or six weeks for delivery.
Thanks,
Joe Felonk
#22
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: willow springs , IL
Posts: 1,216
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes
on
14 Posts
Is anyone familiar with the Koku Fan / Bunrin Do Books. Does their # 121 of the Vigilante have bulk heads and stations in it? They are written in Japanese but from what I understand they are a very good source of documentation.
Last edited by jofunk; 02-19-2014 at 05:07 PM.
#23
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: willow springs , IL
Posts: 1,216
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes
on
14 Posts
Hi Bob,
I see you looking at this thread that you started in 2002. Did you ever build a Vigilante. I am looking for any info I can find on an RC Vigilante.
Joe Felonk
P.S. I don't mean to hijack your thread.
I see you looking at this thread that you started in 2002. Did you ever build a Vigilante. I am looking for any info I can find on an RC Vigilante.
Joe Felonk
P.S. I don't mean to hijack your thread.
#24
Joe, I did a little searching and was unable to find any station # or production prints but did find the drawing below. For a lot of scale info, this download may help http://depositfiles.com/files/f78yktny1
I assume you are thinking of another large build like the Panther?
I assume you are thinking of another large build like the Panther?
#25
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: willow springs , IL
Posts: 1,216
Likes: 0
Received 25 Likes
on
14 Posts
Hi Scott,
Vladimir will decide the final size because he wants to do one also. I am sure it will be on the large side. I have this book with a side view with a bunch of info,but no front view of all those stations and production breaks. Somewhere there is the sister to this page.
Joe
Vladimir will decide the final size because he wants to do one also. I am sure it will be on the large side. I have this book with a side view with a bunch of info,but no front view of all those stations and production breaks. Somewhere there is the sister to this page.
Joe