Morris Hobbies Turbine Jet ARF?
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RE: Morris Hobbies Turbine Jet ARF?
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Morris Hobbies is just a distributor for this airframe.
Morris Hobbies is just a distributor for this airframe.
No disrespect to grbaker but,
So what, does that make it ok? If they know there is an ethical issue here why don't they refuse to sell this airframe. "Just a distributor" is bogus excuse in my mind.
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RE: Morris Hobbies Turbine Jet ARF?
Bart,
The guys at Morris don't know that the jet is a copy of Mick Reeves' Super Reaper. They were approached by the factory to buy a product and they felt there was a market for a cheap ARF jet. So far from what they received, there seems to be a good market for this $439 dollar jet. And the factory obviously doesn't care they copied someone else design, they are just in it to make a profit. I was even told that a few turbine manufacturers were trying to get them to offer a combo deal with one of their turbines.
Unless someone is familar with the Super Reaper already, they will not recognize that it is a copy. It's all about profit and the moral issue.....do I buy an original at a higher price or a copy at a cheaper price.
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The guys at Morris don't know that the jet is a copy of Mick Reeves' Super Reaper. They were approached by the factory to buy a product and they felt there was a market for a cheap ARF jet. So far from what they received, there seems to be a good market for this $439 dollar jet. And the factory obviously doesn't care they copied someone else design, they are just in it to make a profit. I was even told that a few turbine manufacturers were trying to get them to offer a combo deal with one of their turbines.
Unless someone is familar with the Super Reaper already, they will not recognize that it is a copy. It's all about profit and the moral issue.....do I buy an original at a higher price or a copy at a cheaper price.
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RE: Morris Hobbies Turbine Jet ARF?
I agree that there is a market for cheap. It's proven every day.
I would think Mick Reeves would have let Morris know by now IF he's truly concerned about it as has been posted above. I can't say that Mick has contacted Morris and I doubt anyone here can either. If Mick is not concerned then so be it, and there's no issue here at all.
If he has contacted Morris then there is an issue. Stealing intellectual property is still stealing regardless of the discount, and even if your a "middle man". I think it's an easy moral call, it's just a matter of putting aside "the bottom line" to do what's right. Profit (or saving some bucks for that matter) doesn't justify bad behavior.... Enron, Martha, etc.
Lastly I'm sure everyone has heard this before.... "But your Honor, I didn't know that driving the get away vehicle was the same a robbing the bank." Yes, an extreme example but it should drive home my point.
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I would think Mick Reeves would have let Morris know by now IF he's truly concerned about it as has been posted above. I can't say that Mick has contacted Morris and I doubt anyone here can either. If Mick is not concerned then so be it, and there's no issue here at all.
If he has contacted Morris then there is an issue. Stealing intellectual property is still stealing regardless of the discount, and even if your a "middle man". I think it's an easy moral call, it's just a matter of putting aside "the bottom line" to do what's right. Profit (or saving some bucks for that matter) doesn't justify bad behavior.... Enron, Martha, etc.
Lastly I'm sure everyone has heard this before.... "But your Honor, I didn't know that driving the get away vehicle was the same a robbing the bank." Yes, an extreme example but it should drive home my point.
Regards,
Bart
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RE: Morris Hobbies Turbine Jet ARF?
No disrespect to grbaker but,
So what, does that make it ok? If they know there is an ethical issue here why don't they refuse to sell this airframe. "Just a distributor" is bogus excuse in my mind.
So what, does that make it ok? If they know there is an ethical issue here why don't they refuse to sell this airframe. "Just a distributor" is bogus excuse in my mind.
I agree with you 100%. I guess I should have elaborated that Morris Hobbies is not the only "guilty" party. These kits haev been sold on ebay either by another distributor or by the manufacturer.
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RE: Morris Hobbies Turbine Jet ARF?
As a happy owner and builder of the Mick Reeves Super Reaper, this thread prompted me to check on Micks site, glad I did there is a new Super Reaper Mk 2 available that I wasn't aware of.
Looks good at £250 ........
Pic from Micks Website
John
Looks good at £250 ........
Pic from Micks Website
John