j.duncker

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I am looking for help on choosing a Starfighter kit/plan build for a Wren 54 Supersport.

Is there anyone out there who has built one for a small turbine who would like to comment.

TQA

Topgun2mo

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I would take a hard look at Avonds stuff.

SJN

There is this smaller one from Krumpp:

http://www.krumpp-modellbau.de/
http://www.krumpp-modellbau.de/jets.htm

He says it has flown with a KJ-66 turbine.

SJN

But you be the judge if it is large enough

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tp777fo

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I have been flying an Aeroflot (Philip Avonds design manufactured by Aeroloft) for about 5 years. The Avonds design is absolutely amazing. The model deviates very slightly from scale in the intake area and the wing airfoil is not scale. As for flying the thing is very fast and absolutely rock stable! Mine weighs 20# and is powered by a Ram 750. Landings are slower than expected for a wingless airplane. I can be flown safely off of 450-500' runways that are paved. I used Robart sport retracts with gear doors but PA offers a scale gear package for the kit. The kit is very easy to build and the fuse comes apart to help transport, the wings are not removable. The Aeroloft version has panel lines but you must buy the turbine tailpipe and bypass extra. The Avonds kit comes complete with bypass and tailpipe but does not have panel lines. It is however about 3-4 pound lighter thant he Aeroloft. There are other 104 kits out there that are stated to fly well but this one is very scale, easy to build and you will be extremely pleased with the airplane performance. Hope this helps.

DRMRJON

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The Aeroloft version WAS a good kit when they 1st put it out there, but beware of Aeroloft kits! They are a knockoff of the Avonds kit, it is not the real deal. There have been so many kits pulled from the molds Aeroloft uses that the quality has gone out the window ( I know this from 1st hand experiance ). And Aerolofts support is no where close to what it should be !!!!!!! Long story short, get the Avonds kit! It may take a while to get to you, but Aeroloft takes forever also.

Chris Z

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Get the real deal,
go with the Avonds F-104, it's quality is unmatched and Philip supports everything 110%!
Send him an email with questions or check out his website. http://www.avonds.com/index.htm
Tell him Chris sent you,
Chris

Vincent

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CJM has a mid size 104 that would be perfect for the wren ss. I built both the Avonds and Aeroloft versions. The Aeroloft fuse with the panel lines is a bit heavier but very scale looking.
V..

volkan

Thorjet have F104 plans:
http://www.thorjet.co.uk/plan_f104_cat_plan.htm

Shaun Evans

I'd go with the Avonds vs. the CJM.

Stig Andersen

I have built and flown the F-104G from Avonds, and I was amazed with the performance of the plane on a SimJet 1200. I would love to build another F-104 some time, and I'm sure it will be a Avonds kit again.

Jetset

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Volkan,
Nice 104 in that picture! Looks great!
SJN,
I went to that website and found a pictur that I thought looked pretty cool! Part F104, part 5jet!

Myles

SJN

yep...they ruined the f-104 completly

erbroens

[quote ] yep...they ruined the f-104 completly [/quote]

well... they have the merit that they are still flying it!