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Old 07-20-2005, 08:37 AM
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Which filler do most people like to use when finishing their jets.

I have heard that Icing Finishing Putty is good, are there other favourites out there?

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Old 07-20-2005, 10:09 AM
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I used to use Evercoat, now I use Split Second...VERY light
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Matt, where can we get Split Second? Thanks.
Old 07-20-2005, 12:13 PM
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Hi Mark,

I got it from my regular PPG jobber. I wanted evercoat and once I told her what I was doing, she really pushed the split second.

Let me look at the can tonight to figure out who makes it

BTW what did you do to mess up that hydrogen sensor so bad ?? ;-)
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I found it here, along with a bunch more to choose from.

[link]http://www.sarbco.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=s&Product_Code=35293&Category_Code=filler[/link]

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Old 07-20-2005, 02:03 PM
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Yep that is the stuff. There may be something better, but I have had very good luck with this stuff. The consistency is like whipped cream, and about that light. I am not kidding, it is VERY light.
Old 07-20-2005, 02:46 PM
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is it lighter than Pirannha putty?
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Yeah, that ECO sensor issue is driving a BUNCH of guys at the Cape simply nuts. It is VERY weird! Thanks for th info Paul.
Old 07-20-2005, 07:36 PM
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Most likely someone is going to go in the fuel cell, replace the sending unit, It's will be the last item to be replaced. Did not they have problems in this area before
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Old 07-20-2005, 08:00 PM
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Yeah, first tanking test had issues a few months ago, but they replaced some stuff in the Orbiter's point sensor box and thought they fixed the issue. Then, second tanking test using ET-120 (the original return to flight External Tank) was fine. Then we rolled back, replaced the tank (for other reasons, mainly ice debris minimization), and then on July 13th we had the issue with ET-121 on the pad. Bummer. But it’s not a fuel cell; it is the ECO (Engine Cut Off) sensors at the bottom of the liquid hydrogen tank. If you have to enter the tank, it’s a REALLY HUGE deal, and likely will not be done on the pad. That means another rollback and we therefore can not launch in the July window. Gotta wait until September. A HUGE bummer after waiting 2.5 years and working like dogs in heat.

But just to be absolutely certain that this remains jet related: have you guys seen the Air Force jets with the radar tracked cameras that will image STS-114 on ascent with hi-res video? Very cool. They might even have filler on them!
Old 07-21-2005, 01:37 PM
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Split Second.....I assume it uses a hardener and must be worked fast........how's the shrinkage compare w/ Ice? Tx

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Split Second.....I assume it uses a hardener and must be worked fast........how's the shrinkage compare w/ Ice? Tx

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Could that filler be used for fiberglass repair?
Old 07-21-2005, 03:52 PM
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Could that filler be used for fiberglass repair?
Yes, but only to smooth the surface AFTER you have made a proper glass and resin repair/ glass and CA repair or you can use carbon fiber or Kevlar for added strength. the "Bondo" repair will have NO strength.
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Terry that's axactly what I mean. I've used microballons and epoxy before, but it just peels out upon sanding. I want something that will adhere well to the fiberglass (unlike epoxy).
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It will stick like glue, if you do the repair as I stated. No peal out at all. Micro ballons and epoxy is one of the worst repairs you can do. Takes too long for set up time for one thing. And has no structural integretity. Iceing and the others are ready to sand down in 15 Minutes OR LESS. Most are ready in 5 minutes. GREAT STUFF. Been using them for 20 years.
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Sold!
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i guess you guys thought I was kidding but seriously is it lighter than Pirannha Putty?

it's sold at the PPG dealers and comes in a giant tooth paste looking tube with appropriate tube of hardener

I like it. sets quick and sands smooth. however, I'm always looking for a better mouse trap.

cheers

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Hi Buck,

I was not ignoring you, I just have not heard of that product. I have used a few grades of Evercoat glazing putty, and then this USC Split Second stuff. I have never seen anything as light as this stuff.

I am like you, always looking for new stuff, take advantage of other people's experimentation!!
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no worries amigo.

Bags turned me onto it. works great but the lighter the better.

take care

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The compound needs to be catalyzed. Two reasons first:better adhesion to the glass/primer, second: faster working time. Like Matt says if its like whipping cream then it will be easy to feather which is a multi-step process. I would not recommend it for filling a wing/ fuse gap, especially if the wings are removable, tends to be brittle.

Then there's the conversation about weight-- most guys are using 30 pounds of thrust on the 25 pound airframe so the light weight bondo conversation is funny.

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Old 07-23-2005, 12:02 AM
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I would not recommend it for filling a wing/ fuse gap, especially if the wings are removable, tends to be brittle.
Agreed, I use Hysol 9460F for filling wing and hatch gaps, that stuff is so tough, you can sand an edge you can shave with.

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Hi
Can you help me find out to buy it in Europe?

Regards

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Hi
Can you help me to find out it in Europe?

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Bondo #801 works great also, feathers great with wet sanding paper

Auto Zone and Advance Auto sells it.

http://www.jamestowndistributors.com...ct.do?pid=5963

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