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Old 03-05-2007, 06:47 PM
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I was looking at the jet powered glider Jason Sommes flew at Florida Jets. I was wondering if any others have tried this? I have a Wren MW54 that I thought I might put on a glider. I don't know much about gliders so I was wondering if anyone could give me some suggestions for a good glider for this size turbine.

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Old 03-05-2007, 08:15 PM
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im building/assembling a approx 1/4 scale LUNAK.....polish trainer/aero...built in the 50s/60s.....142in span....fullspan flaps/flaperon....18 in blade spoilers.....engine a p60/m44......lots of space in fuse for gear.....since tail/stab is approx 41/2 ft from jet nozzle.....some provision must be made for protection of leading edge of vert fin....im using heat wrap....a fiberglass/foil lined self adhesive tape avaible from summit racing....designed for nascar racing.....the guys at aeroworld used 050 aliminum cuff mounted on 1/4in standoffs....on there ask 21 demo(i think thats the model).....but it is kinda ugly to my eye.....either way engine is mounted on c/g on a pylon...mines scatched from fiberglas/epoxy.....over foam i carved /sanded....lots of filler....airworlds engine mounted is fabricated from alum sheet.....mine looks better but is heavier....more when i get further along on project....kellyps on your mt you will prob. have to shim thrust line upwards.....
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Maybe you like this one:

http://www.alsgallery.co.uk/pampa/abc

http://www.alsgallery.co.uk/pampa/abb

www.funsonic.de/images/salto-turbine-web.wmv
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Old 03-06-2007, 03:59 AM
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I have ordered an AirWorld Nimbus 4 for Wren 44 power. Its in customs in Sydney for collection tomorrow. Looks good , I''ll let you know how it goes !
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:06 AM
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David,

Haven't you got enough planes already - scrub that as enough never is.

All the best

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Hey Guys,
Check out the real deal at (Silentwingsairshows.com).
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yeah i ran into that one about a month back.....very impressive...and the v tail is perfect empanege(sp)for exaust gas kelly
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Hi David,

I saw in another thread that you were doing some soaring in NZ . Do you own a sailplane ? I have a Discus and was hoping to do a turbine version of that !

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Marc, I mentioned to a soaring friend your Discus and he wanted know if you had flown out of Clermont the week before FJ's.
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Hi Bob,

After a marathon driving session , I'm back home cursing the weather !! Those Discus pictures where taken on Wednesday in Clermont . A great strip for gliders and jets

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Hi Marc,

No I don't own a sailplane but am on the point of buying a new ASK 21 (possibly M ) for lease to my club IF they will get out of the Blanik mindset ! We badly need a decent two seater.

Actually I was flying a Duo Discus on the mountain soaring course at Omarama and had a fabulous time in wave in the DD and also had the "pleasure" of encountering severe turbulence in the rotor ! Climbing at 10 knts in uncannily smooth air in the wave is an amazing flying experience> I have been invited back by one of the instructors (also an ex VC10 pilot ) to enjoy his ASH 25, THAT should be fantastic. (see: www.soaring.co.nz "whats new")

Just off to Sydney to collect my Nimbus.

Envy you your Discus, (are you back on the 767?) back to the old but good Astir on Thursday.

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PS youre right , Ant, never can have too many !
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This photo of an ASK21 from the Airworld Modellbau site. Not sure of the powerplant. Interesting project. I fly mostly hotliners, but this thread has definitely caught my interest!
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David,

The NZ flying in the DD sounds fabulous . Maybe I'll have to make a trip out there ! Our club President is very progressive and worked very hard at convincing some of our members that we needed a good 2 seater as well . He prevailed and we received a new DG 505 last spring . Beautiful bird and so much nicer than the "Tin Can " L-23's an L-13's . We use it for cross country and aerobatics training .

Due to merger/seniority issues and Air Canada flirting with bancruptcy , I've been back on the 767 for a while now but will start 777 training in June [8D] I may be flying YVR direct SYD starting next December .

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David,

I will be flying the jet sailplane at the Australia International Airshow in Avalon (near Melbourne) March 20-25. It's on a container ship now making its way across the Pacific. I'm not sure of the weekdays, but for sure I'll fly the Friday night show (with pyro), Saturday and Sunday. I hope to be able to do some soaring while I'm there. If the recent 32,000' paraglider incident is any indication of the soaring conditions...

Here's a direct link to the latest jet sailplane video http://www.silentwingsairshows.com/v...oo_hot_low.wmv

and the night pyro show http://www.silentwingsairshows.com/video/nightshow.wmv

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Marc,

Sure you will love the 777. Did a couple of trips on it with my son in law, now a BA captain, like an overgrown 767 with lots of avionic updtaes and wheels which trail the right way !

When you have trip to SYD do let me know and it will be my pleasure to buy you lunch and show you a little of our fabulous city. during your slip.

You would enjoy soaring in NZ and they do have a DG 1000 thre as well as a DD.

Bob , not sure I can get to Avalon, but I wish you every succes with your displays, and a warm welcome in Australia (thats guaranteed ! ) Which engines are you using, my gliding club casts envious eyes on my Pegasus and JC 200 !

Collected the Nimbus today (including two right outer wing panels, it happens) beautifully done including flaps, retractable gear and 3 section ailerons (the DD has outboard ailerons which move up only) but the fuselage may be rather short for turbine power. I will do some temp measurements behind the L39 and let you know how it goes.

Picture is the DD in wave over NZ.

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Dave,

Great pic I have to say though not much of a crumple zone is there (just in case) don't forget the statistics.

Hopefully see you soon this year if your coming over.

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