A380
03-22-2007, 08:17 PM
#51
RE: A380
David
I think he is making a joke, and wants this political banter to stop. I know I do. The aircraft is one I know I will never fly on (I know one is never to say I'll never )
. The plane IMHO is just a mass people mover only viable on LONG haul routes,my trips are usually just with in the contiguous United States . I wish airbus all the luck of the Irish, with the 380. I believe there are only a few airports here(US)able to support the 380 ,LAX/ORD/JFK/DFW/ ??????
Semper Fi
Joe
I think he is making a joke, and wants this political banter to stop. I know I do. The aircraft is one I know I will never fly on (I know one is never to say I'll never )
. The plane IMHO is just a mass people mover only viable on LONG haul routes,my trips are usually just with in the contiguous United States . I wish airbus all the luck of the Irish, with the 380. I believe there are only a few airports here(US)able to support the 380 ,LAX/ORD/JFK/DFW/ ??????
Semper Fi
Joe
03-22-2007, 10:15 PM
#52
RE: A380
ORIGINAL: David Gladwin
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In despair,
David Gladwin
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In despair,
David Gladwin
Actually, just leave that FAT F$%@ER parked on the hot LA ramp for a few hours and you'll be digging it out!
Ah, back to fixing my busted ***** landging gear from Fl Jets... D#$% crosswind!
Bob
03-22-2007, 10:16 PM
#53
RE: A380
Sorry Beave,
Releasing the the brakes after the chocks are in is and has been STANDARD PRACTICE on every jet that I have flown to date. Here at US Airways,.............the world's LARGEST Airbus operator, it is emphasized that it be done quickly to avoid degradation of the hydraulic fluid in the brake pucks..............But what do I know ?
So does anybody else think that the A-380 looks funky on landing??....I think that I might have missed some good stuff, since some posts were deleted.
Tailwinds,
John [8D]
Releasing the the brakes after the chocks are in is and has been STANDARD PRACTICE on every jet that I have flown to date. Here at US Airways,.............the world's LARGEST Airbus operator, it is emphasized that it be done quickly to avoid degradation of the hydraulic fluid in the brake pucks..............But what do I know ?
So does anybody else think that the A-380 looks funky on landing??....I think that I might have missed some good stuff, since some posts were deleted.
Tailwinds,
John [8D]
03-22-2007, 11:31 PM
#55
RE: A380
Sorry John,
But my rinky dinky little airline, which happens to be a lot LARGER than US Airways stresses that you set the brake upon arrival and leave it that way. Of course I suppose the brakes on BOEING jets must be superior to the 3rd world brands because we can "set 'em and forget 'em".
Ahhh...such price is glory. BTW...I have been 121 flying for almost 30 years and never seen a company that had you unset the parking brake after arrival, that is very foolish.
Beave [8D]
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But my rinky dinky little airline, which happens to be a lot LARGER than US Airways stresses that you set the brake upon arrival and leave it that way. Of course I suppose the brakes on BOEING jets must be superior to the 3rd world brands because we can "set 'em and forget 'em".
Ahhh...such price is glory. BTW...I have been 121 flying for almost 30 years and never seen a company that had you unset the parking brake after arrival, that is very foolish.
Beave [8D]
>
ORIGINAL: cactusflyer
Sorry Beave,
Releasing the the brakes after the chocks are in is and has been STANDARD PRACTICE on every jet that I have flown to date. Here at US Airways,.............the world's LARGEST Airbus operator, it is emphasized that it be done quickly to avoid degradation of the hydraulic fluid in the brake pucks..............But what do I know ?
So does anybody else think that the A-380 looks funky on landing??....I think that I might have missed some good stuff, since some posts were deleted.
Tailwinds,
John [8D]
Sorry Beave,
Releasing the the brakes after the chocks are in is and has been STANDARD PRACTICE on every jet that I have flown to date. Here at US Airways,.............the world's LARGEST Airbus operator, it is emphasized that it be done quickly to avoid degradation of the hydraulic fluid in the brake pucks..............But what do I know ?
So does anybody else think that the A-380 looks funky on landing??....I think that I might have missed some good stuff, since some posts were deleted.
Tailwinds,
John [8D]
03-22-2007, 11:42 PM
#56
RE: A380
Beave, How much profit did your little operation make last year?
Our Busses have brake fans to cool the pads at the gate and during taxi. I'll have to query mi vatos at other rinky dink airlines (NWA AAA, SWA,UAL,DAL) about releasing the parking brakes.....I guess all those wheel chocks are obsolete......Hmmmm The policy is universal for all our fleet types....Airbus and Boeing............'Never seen one get away from us at the gate....I guess they are just happy planes that need minimal restraint.
F-22 Raptor,
I'm one of those Americans doing my best to save the planet from global warming....I fly Wren Turbines...they are very efficient.
Taikwinds,
John
Our Busses have brake fans to cool the pads at the gate and during taxi. I'll have to query mi vatos at other rinky dink airlines (NWA AAA, SWA,UAL,DAL) about releasing the parking brakes.....I guess all those wheel chocks are obsolete......Hmmmm The policy is universal for all our fleet types....Airbus and Boeing............'Never seen one get away from us at the gate....I guess they are just happy planes that need minimal restraint.
F-22 Raptor,
I'm one of those Americans doing my best to save the planet from global warming....I fly Wren Turbines...they are very efficient.
Taikwinds,
John
03-23-2007, 12:22 AM
#58
RE: A380
Here are some pics of the ORD visit. Note the hardwood galley floor, espresso makers, lav with a view, etc. Please ignore the dorks I work with that are in some of the pics.
03-23-2007, 12:36 AM
#60
RE: A380
Yup, we have specific gates in the system that require that the brakes remain set with chocks in place and of course in the frozen "stuff" as well. But to say that releasing the brakes is foolish, [
] well we just have to disagree. I just do what they tell me and "they" sign the checks..............BLACK is good!
But just to address an earlier post by rhklenke, the chocks are always used on big jets (little jets too) when they are parked. Sometimes we chock ALL the wheels..................
Adios,
John
] well we just have to disagree. I just do what they tell me and "they" sign the checks..............BLACK is good!But just to address an earlier post by rhklenke, the chocks are always used on big jets (little jets too) when they are parked. Sometimes we chock ALL the wheels..................
Adios,
John
03-23-2007, 01:18 AM
#61
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RE: A380
ORIGINAL: cactusflyer
Releasing the the brakes after the chocks are in is and has been STANDARD PRACTICE on every jet that I have flown to date. Here at US Airways,.............the world's LARGEST Airbus operator, it is emphasized that it be done quickly to avoid degradation of the hydraulic fluid in the brake pucks..............But what do I know ?
Releasing the the brakes after the chocks are in is and has been STANDARD PRACTICE on every jet that I have flown to date. Here at US Airways,.............the world's LARGEST Airbus operator, it is emphasized that it be done quickly to avoid degradation of the hydraulic fluid in the brake pucks..............But what do I know ?
03-23-2007, 04:21 AM
#62
RE: A380
Clearly we can't agree about parking brake setting procedure, but any time you guys want to argue I'll take quality, against quantity, anytime, anywhere. My airline dual rated all of its pilots on 757/767 and our operating procedures were standard for both types. 767s had steel brakes , the 757 carbon, but we operated to a common principle that was good for both. I also worked for an airline which had an operational environment (Mach 2 and FL600 ) which UAL and AA despite their size, never got anywhere near, with a 100 % safety record in that environment, so what would we/they know ? Obviously, if I believe some comments, I have threaded my career through 3 rubbish operations, but neither of which have EVER furloughed a pilot !! So, what does being the world's biggest airline (UAL or AA, take your pick ) benefit anyone, I'd MUCH rather work for an airline which has a first class operation, is and has been consistently profitable , safe, and delivers a guaranteed pension (I am retired and OUR pension fund is fully funded and pays an index linked, but minimum 5%, annual pension increase ). There IS more than one way of skinning a cat, or even setting or releasing the parking brake !!
......but the bottom line is DON'T knock the A380 JUST because its European , it WILL be a success, it may just take time, but I just can't wait to climb into my flat bed ex SYD and enjoy a few drinks, nice meals with an flight chef, and a video or three until LHR appears looked after by a beautiful young stewardess, European or Asian who CARES about personal service AND fills my wine glass or coffee cup before its even half empty/full , and yes, having given up with staff travel I pay my own fare........................... and if that is on Etihad, Thai, Malysaian, or QF, all A380 customers, that is UAL/AA/BAs loss.
Give the A380 a fair go and stop knocking it, it is a magnificent aerospace/ engineering achievement. !
Regards,
David Gladwin.
......but the bottom line is DON'T knock the A380 JUST because its European , it WILL be a success, it may just take time, but I just can't wait to climb into my flat bed ex SYD and enjoy a few drinks, nice meals with an flight chef, and a video or three until LHR appears looked after by a beautiful young stewardess, European or Asian who CARES about personal service AND fills my wine glass or coffee cup before its even half empty/full , and yes, having given up with staff travel I pay my own fare........................... and if that is on Etihad, Thai, Malysaian, or QF, all A380 customers, that is UAL/AA/BAs loss.
Give the A380 a fair go and stop knocking it, it is a magnificent aerospace/ engineering achievement. !
Regards,
David Gladwin.
03-23-2007, 05:26 AM
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"Give the A380 a fair go and stop knocking it, it is a magnificent aerospace/ engineering achievement. ! "
I agree but have to add: Airbus aircraft provide a better passenger experience. They are quiter to fly in, quiter around the airport environment and best of all its sponsored by a the EU tax system and not the warmongering bomb the hell out of the world for profit american military industrial complex, to quote USA president EISENHOWER
I agree but have to add: Airbus aircraft provide a better passenger experience. They are quiter to fly in, quiter around the airport environment and best of all its sponsored by a the EU tax system and not the warmongering bomb the hell out of the world for profit american military industrial complex, to quote USA president EISENHOWER
03-23-2007, 07:38 AM
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RE: A380
ORIGINAL: VLAMGAT
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the warmongering bomb the hell out of the world for profit american military industrial complex, to quote USA president EISENHOWER
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the warmongering bomb the hell out of the world for profit american military industrial complex, to quote USA president EISENHOWER
Jeeze, I haven't fixed those landing gears on my RC MODEL JETS yet - gotta' get back to work...
Bob
03-23-2007, 07:50 AM
#65
RE: A380
ORIGINAL: VLAMGAT
"Give the A380 a fair go and stop knocking it, it is a magnificent aerospace/ engineering achievement. ! "
I agree but have to add: Airbus aircraft provide a better passenger experience. They are quiter to fly in, quiter around the airport environment and best of all its sponsored by a the EU tax system and not the warmongering bomb the hell out of the world for profit american military industrial complex, to quote USA president EISENHOWER
"Give the A380 a fair go and stop knocking it, it is a magnificent aerospace/ engineering achievement. ! "
I agree but have to add: Airbus aircraft provide a better passenger experience. They are quiter to fly in, quiter around the airport environment and best of all its sponsored by a the EU tax system and not the warmongering bomb the hell out of the world for profit american military industrial complex, to quote USA president EISENHOWER
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03-23-2007, 08:09 AM
#66
RE: A380
Doug,
We are talking about airplanes, not cars. Research large jets brake systems and you will see why your statement is without merit.
Beave
We are talking about airplanes, not cars. Research large jets brake systems and you will see why your statement is without merit.
Beave
ORIGINAL: Doug Cronkhite
Not to mention if you keep the brakes locked up you get heat soak at the contact point, creating a big potential for warping due to uneven cooling as well as cooking off the brake fluid.
ORIGINAL: cactusflyer
Releasing the the brakes after the chocks are in is and has been STANDARD PRACTICE on every jet that I have flown to date. Here at US Airways,.............the world's LARGEST Airbus operator, it is emphasized that it be done quickly to avoid degradation of the hydraulic fluid in the brake pucks..............But what do I know ?
Releasing the the brakes after the chocks are in is and has been STANDARD PRACTICE on every jet that I have flown to date. Here at US Airways,.............the world's LARGEST Airbus operator, it is emphasized that it be done quickly to avoid degradation of the hydraulic fluid in the brake pucks..............But what do I know ?
03-23-2007, 08:58 AM
#67
RE: A380
ORIGINAL: cactusflyer
Sorry Beave,
Releasing the the brakes after the chocks are in is and has been STANDARD PRACTICE on every jet that I have flown to date. Here at US Airways,.............the world's LARGEST Airbus operator, it is emphasized that it be done quickly to avoid degradation of the hydraulic fluid in the brake pucks..............But what do I know ?
So does anybody else think that the A-380 looks funky on landing??....I think that I might have missed some good stuff, since some posts were deleted.
Tailwinds,
John [8D]
Sorry Beave,
Releasing the the brakes after the chocks are in is and has been STANDARD PRACTICE on every jet that I have flown to date. Here at US Airways,.............the world's LARGEST Airbus operator, it is emphasized that it be done quickly to avoid degradation of the hydraulic fluid in the brake pucks..............But what do I know ?
So does anybody else think that the A-380 looks funky on landing??....I think that I might have missed some good stuff, since some posts were deleted.
Tailwinds,
John [8D]
You may picture it like this, Hyd Systems are like an on-off switch, and they like the "off" position.
03-23-2007, 09:04 AM
#68
RE: A380
ORIGINAL: bevar
Sorry John,
But my rinky dinky little airline, which happens to be a lot LARGER than US Airways stresses that you set the brake upon arrival and leave it that way. Of course I suppose the brakes on BOEING jets must be superior to the 3rd world brands because we can "set 'em and forget 'em".
Ahhh...such price is glory. BTW...I have been 121 flying for almost 30 years and never seen a company that had you unset the parking brake after arrival, that is very foolish.
Beave [8D]
>
Sorry John,
But my rinky dinky little airline, which happens to be a lot LARGER than US Airways stresses that you set the brake upon arrival and leave it that way. Of course I suppose the brakes on BOEING jets must be superior to the 3rd world brands because we can "set 'em and forget 'em".
Ahhh...such price is glory. BTW...I have been 121 flying for almost 30 years and never seen a company that had you unset the parking brake after arrival, that is very foolish.
Beave [8D]
>
ORIGINAL: cactusflyer
Sorry Beave,
Releasing the the brakes after the chocks are in is and has been STANDARD PRACTICE on every jet that I have flown to date. Here at US Airways,.............the world's LARGEST Airbus operator, it is emphasized that it be done quickly to avoid degradation of the hydraulic fluid in the brake pucks..............But what do I know ?
So does anybody else think that the A-380 looks funky on landing??....I think that I might have missed some good stuff, since some posts were deleted.
Tailwinds,
John [8D]
Sorry Beave,
Releasing the the brakes after the chocks are in is and has been STANDARD PRACTICE on every jet that I have flown to date. Here at US Airways,.............the world's LARGEST Airbus operator, it is emphasized that it be done quickly to avoid degradation of the hydraulic fluid in the brake pucks..............But what do I know ?
So does anybody else think that the A-380 looks funky on landing??....I think that I might have missed some good stuff, since some posts were deleted.
Tailwinds,
John [8D]
03-23-2007, 10:58 AM
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A quote from the real american that saved the world from hitler and got dragged into cold war paranoia by defense contractors. not my opineon, HISTORICAL FACT
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst3...ts/indust.html
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst3...ts/indust.html
03-23-2007, 12:08 PM
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Boing is god Airbus is god.
there is som god in USA and there som god i Europa (remember most of the Amerikans com from Europa ) so in the end ve are all the same
so be flying and be happy
there is som god in USA
and there som god i Europa (remember most of the Amerikans com from Europa ) so in the end ve are all the sameso be flying and be happy
03-23-2007, 12:33 PM
#72
RE: A380
So is this one of the times where you read something and you take what it means to you? On the entire spech the Words BOMB, HELL and PROFIT are no where to be found, so what exactly did you quote? ah, YES, I get it, your imagination, we all have one, but to say you quote someone and they never said it then what?
Turbulence
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ORIGINAL: VLAMGAT
A quote from the real american that saved the world from hitler and got dragged into cold war paranoia by defense contractors. not my opineon, HISTORICAL FACT
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst3...ts/indust.html
A quote from the real american that saved the world from hitler and got dragged into cold war paranoia by defense contractors. not my opineon, HISTORICAL FACT
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst3...ts/indust.html
03-23-2007, 01:06 PM
#73
RE: A380
Ok guys, closing this one, couple of reasons........
1. It's about a full scale, this forum was allowed to post pictures of full scale jets and this is the ONLY forum on RCU that has this priveledge. However, this post belongs in the full scale forum since it's become a discussion about this aircraft rather than just some cool pictures of jets.
2. Politics don't belong here, and this thread has far to many politics in it already.
So, please remember that while we do allow pictures of full scale jets in the RC jets forum, this is the only forum that does allow so. As a result, if you have pictures of a full scale jet, then great, but a lengthy politically charged debate is not welcome. If you feel the desire to continue the discussion regarding this jet, please start a post in the full scale forum where it belongs.
Thanks
1. It's about a full scale, this forum was allowed to post pictures of full scale jets and this is the ONLY forum on RCU that has this priveledge. However, this post belongs in the full scale forum since it's become a discussion about this aircraft rather than just some cool pictures of jets.
2. Politics don't belong here, and this thread has far to many politics in it already.
So, please remember that while we do allow pictures of full scale jets in the RC jets forum, this is the only forum that does allow so. As a result, if you have pictures of a full scale jet, then great, but a lengthy politically charged debate is not welcome. If you feel the desire to continue the discussion regarding this jet, please start a post in the full scale forum where it belongs.
Thanks
